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I can't recollect whether it's been already reported in this thread ( ), but DB Browser for SQLite , a very handy tool to inspect and manipulate SQLite databases, has moved past Vista SP2 support... Recent versions 3.12.x have been compiled using Qt5.12.x and thus require at least Win7 SP1... The last Vista-compatible version is 3.11.2 (compiled with Qt5.7.1), official download links by vendor below: https://sqlitebrowser.org/blog/version-3-11-2-released/ https://sqlitebrowser.org/blog/portableapp-for-3-11-2-release-now-available/
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My Browser Builds (Part 2)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Errare humanum est... ... But the releases announcement post here in this very thread has the correct links: https://msfn.org/board/topic/180462-my-browser-builds-part-2/?do=findComment&comment=1195238 -
My Browser Builds (Part 2)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
If you're looking for the 64-bit edition of latest NM28 (version upped to 28.10.3a1), the correct URI is https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.3a1.win64-git-20210206-bf093ea79-uxp-bd9fdeccc-xpmod.7z -
My Browser Builds (Part 2)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
My previous reply was composed without reading your most recent "EDIT" ; I still feel (though I obviously might be wrong) that my "tone" in these forums strives to be civil and my responses helpful; I would extremely hate it to be called one day the M.A.T. of MSFN! But every one of us has a different/unique type of personality/mindset, especially when that is conveyed only through written speech in a forum... Complete resonance between forum members is, in my opinion, very scarce/difficult to attain... E,g. you said: I. OTOH, feel you needed to, if you were "curious" on the subject... So let's agree to disagree on that and go our merry ways... In any case, water under the bridge, I sincerely hope no ill feeling exists still on your side, best wishes... PS: When I, personally, have IT related queries, first thing I do is apply the biblical "seek and ye shall find" and when that one is exhausted without outcome, only then comes second the biblical "Ask, and it shall be given you" (with the likelihood, when not dealing with God, that it might not... ) -
My Browser Builds (Part 2)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
I apologise If I sounded harsh/hostile in my reply to you - no disrespect was implied/meant... "Your" time is as precious as anyone else's in these forums, so I won't accept that as an argument (but this is just me) ... Yes, these "Roytam1" threads go big pretty quickly, but that is why Forum (Google, etc.) search exists... I'm not even able myself to easily locate my own posts from 2-3 years ago! You have been a previous user of New Moon in your "Vista" era, so, in my book, I thought it a given you already knew how NM is being built off of official PM: (I realise now I was wrong ) - and direct links to Roytam1's GitHub repos are always given with every weekly release cycle announcement here, so one has to only go back (in this thread) a few pages at best to read the latest release notes - or bookmark the permanent link to Roy's blog ... As for calling you "superficial", sorry, I was just being carried away by the manner the majority of software users think that version N is way better than version (N-1); it's one of the reasons Mozilla moved on to a rapid - monthly - release cycle in their chase after Google Chrome... So, I just interpreted your question as "look, PM 29 has been out, are you able to match it?" ... Regards -
My Browser Builds (Part 2)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
FWIW, the introduction of v29.0+ in official Pale Moon has already caused the malfunctioning of several forks of popular Firefox-exclusive legacy (XUL) extensions, when installed in PM; those extensions have internal code routines that check for appVersion >= 29 and then apply, accordingly, Australis-specific code/features that, of course, are not supported by non-Australis PM29 and, thus, result in a broken extension (partly or completely) ... I won't expect New Moon 28 to forever stay at a 28.x.x version number ( @roytam1 hasn't yet indicated publicly his intentions on this), but, at the moment, staying there avoids nasty surprises from legacy Fx extensions - but may introduce issues with proper PM extensions that demand a minversion of 29.* ... -
My Browser Builds (Part 2)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Latest UXP forks by @roytam1 are already being built (as has ALWAYS been the case) on code cherry-picked from the master branch of the official UXP repo, as well as the master branches of official Pale Moon (for NM28) and Basilisk (for St52), so 98% of latest PM 29.0.1/29.1.0a1 and Basilisk 52.9.2021.02.06 is ALREADY there in latest NM28+St52! @Jody Thornton , with respect , you're just being superficial and looking only at version numbers, not actual source code; so get yourself informed (and refrain from possibly spreading misinformation...) . ... And it has been explained numerous times here that @feodor2 's project (Mypal) forks/follows more closely the RELEASE branch of official PM, so nothing new/surprising there... -
My Browser Builds (Part 2)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
These prefs are NOT to be found in latest Serpent 52.9.0 BTW... -
My Browser Builds (Part 2)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
FYI: js: disable Reflect.construct for now to unbreak websites -
My Browser Builds (Part 2)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Is "upstream" supposed to be https://github.com/rmottola/Arctic-Fox ? I briefly browsed their issue tracker, https://github.com/rmottola/Arctic-Fox/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+sort%3Aupdated-desc but no sign of a mediathekviewweb.de related open issue... Just to be clear, I'm not doubting you in the slightest, I was simply curious to read what they had to say on this... The site itself complains about an "unsupported browser or disabled Javascript", and the Web Console reports "TypeError: n.reconnection is not a function" in https://mediathekviewweb.de/static/socket.io.min.js Incidentally, package palemoon-27.9.7.win32-git-20201121-fa350a3b2-xpmod.7z (buildID=20201120050330) is the last one on which a very useful/favourite GreaseMonkey script works, on later NM27 versions it simply refuses to work at all... The userscript is SaveFromNet: https://en.savefrom.net/user.php?helper=userjs Direct link: https://download.sf-helper.com/chrome/helper.user.js Last good NM27: First bad: Browser Console error on the latter: Regression window: https://github.com/roytam1/palemoon27/compare/fa350a3...b383d6b [Showing 373 changed files with 11,858 additions and 5,748 deletions.] It's hard to pinpoint the culprit commit no doubt, but I and @bernd have great faith in you... FWIW, the same userscript works fine in UXP forks and Vista-usable Chromium forks! -
Long posts truncated... new annoying bug?
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Site & Forum Issues
Bravery found, suggested experiment attempted (with trepidation!), end result is successful I've successfully edited my post: https://msfn.org/board/topic/182381-long-posts-truncated-new-annoying-bug/?do=findComment&comment=1195309 (9th in this thread, currently), but not back to its original length... Additionally, 1st post in this thread is still editable, but up to a certain length (roughly the one displayed now), any of my edit attempts to add slightly more results in truncation, with loss of pre-existing content even... Still, my post here: https://msfn.org/board/topic/180462-my-browser-builds-part-2/?do=findComment&comment=1195308 remains, to this point, non-editable, and nothing stands out as a possible culprit... If something's wrong with my current IP, why am I allowed to edit some posts but not others? -
Long posts truncated... new annoying bug?
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Site & Forum Issues
Fortunately, imgur still works, so here you go: <OT> From my Vista weather gadget: <OT/> -
Long posts truncated... new annoying bug?
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Site & Forum Issues
Post truncation bug just occurred again in my previous post in this thread; when I try to edit, the editor shows no content to be edited... (Now posting again what was meant to be in previous post:) Hi to you @Dave-H ; snow in central London today? I got hit again mere minutes ago, by not being able to edit: https://msfn.org/board/topic/180462-my-browser-builds-part-2/?do=findComment&comment=1195308 It's a fresh post I created 5min ago ; I went back to put in a missing closing bracket, but ... Perhaps it's got something to do with code blocks being present in the post body (pulling what's left of my hair here...) ? I hope these bugs are identified and exterminated, they are a cause for sorrow here... Best greetings to the team! -
Long posts truncated... new annoying bug?
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Site & Forum Issues
Hi @dencorso, I do hope you're fine under these perilous times... Many thanks for your moderation, but... The first post in this newly created thread was supposed to be an immediate answer to a comment by @siria in that other "ginormous" thread; the logical place for it to exist is there (right after linked comment), it is out of context here... It was upon submission of my comment (currently first in this thread) that I was bitten by the post truncation bug, which I believe is the same bug reported already by @roytam1 here ... I managed to edit back my truncated post, but ONLY ONCE ; the forum software now does not allow me any additional edits... ; to be honest, I can't ascertain whether this is a different manifestation of the first bug (post truncation) or a different, second bug (inability to further edit own posts...) At the time, it started as an exchange of thoughts between me and @roytam1 in his "big" thread, I wasn't yet sure what was going on (I thought something's gone awry at my end?) ; it was when I discovered I could no longer edit my own recent post that I, out of pure frustration, summoned an admin for further insight... -
My Browser Builds (Part 2)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Have you verified in https://msfn.org/board/attachments/ that you still have eligible attachments space? The cumulative size of your MSFN file attachments must not exceed 1.95MB... I use imgur myself: https://imgur.com/upload NB: if you prefer the older GUI, much lenient on older hardware, create the following two cookie files { "domain": ".imgur.com", "expirationDate": 3808238400.6028, "hostOnly": false, "httpOnly": false, "name": "frontpagebetav2", "path": "/", "sameSite": "unspecified", "secure": false, "session": false, "storeId": "0", "value": "0" } { "domain": ".imgur.com", "expirationDate": 3808238400.6028, "hostOnly": false, "httpOnly": false, "name": "postpagebeta", "path": "/", "sameSite": "unspecified", "secure": false, "session": false, "storeId": "0", "value": "0" } then import and protect them via a cookie extension (several exist); once the photo upload succeeds, from the opened page choose Copy -> Get Share links -> BBCode (Forums) -> Copy : [img=https://i.imgur.com/uosmAtz.jpg] However, I suspect many of your issues are caused by your use of NM27, which isn't fully compatible with MSFN 2021... -
Long posts truncated... new annoying bug?
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Site & Forum Issues
But now it gets even worse , as the forum software will no longer allow me to make any further edits to said post: @dencorso , @Dave-H are you aware of the forum misbehaving in this irritating fashion? -
Long posts truncated... new annoying bug?
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Site & Forum Issues
Apparently, yes... My comment towards @siria was submitted via 360EEv13, I was very miffed to discover, after submission, that half of it never made it... I have now re-edited original post (actually, re-written from memory the truncated second part..) in latest Serpent 52.9.0, and this time it seems it has gone through OK... -
Long posts truncated... new annoying bug?
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Site & Forum Issues
... Well, you're absolutely right , I myself have fallen prey of attachment disappearance in many old posts on several web forums (i.e. not just here in MSFN) and it's quite frustrating when your Search Engine unearths a post from, say, 2005, only to find, upon arrival there, that crucial info meant to be found in a forum attachment is AWAL... Most often, the image hoster itself has gone bust , others tend to auto-delete files with prolonged inactivity... Were it not for attachment size quota here in MSFN, I'd have stayed completely away from third party services, but, things being as they are, I see it as a necessary evil... Guilty as charged for some of my personal screengrabs, but in most of those cases I do have specific reasons I want ALL to be displayed/conveyed... Else, I do bother to crop and upload only relevant image parts - PNG format is very good for detail, but to save bandwidth I also like to upload as JPG... Well, we all know (and feel sympathetic towards you ) you're currently browsing MSFN with an antiquated browser engine, but, speaking personally, I do prefer those "Forum share" embedding links (offered by the hosters) to DIRECT image links; direct links to images have very short lifetimes, the hosters then re-direct you to full-blown webpages (not just the original image itself) laden usually with an exorbitant amount of ads/nuisances (even video), not all are intercepted by an adblocker... I'm sure your "old" browser would not even render any ads, but modern ones do... Furthermore, when I paste a direct image link inside MSFN's post editor (with a modern browser that is), it auto-converts it into an inline image; there's still an option to "display as link instead", but I'd have to remember to scroll down to post's end and select that option; I usually don't, sorry... -
My Browser Builds (Part 2)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
@ArcticFoxie , @we3fan Being signed-in, just load: https://msfn.org/board/attachments/ There you'll see that as a "free" MSFN member, you're only entitled to a maximum size of ca. 2MB of file attachments: I can't seem to be able to find the link now, but, AIUI, once you make significant donation(s) and/or become an MSFN sponsor, that attachment quota may be upped, but, as @UCyborg said, the best thing to do is use external image/media/text hosters and use here just the "Forum share" links... -
Direct links from vendor: XP SP2 64-bit https://download.visualstudio.microsoft.com/download/pr/566435ac-4e1c-434b-b93f-aecc71e8cffc/B75590149FA14B37997C35724BC93776F67E08BFF9BD5A69FACBF41B3846D084/VC_redist.x64.exe XP SP3 32-bit https://download.visualstudio.microsoft.com/download/pr/566435ac-4e1c-434b-b93f-aecc71e8cffc/0D59EC7FDBF05DE813736BF875CEA5C894FFF4769F60E32E87BD48406BBF0A3A/VC_redist.x86.exe Credit goes to @abbodi1406 (from content originally posted on MDL) . These are the last VC_redist.x*.exe packages that have been DUAL-signed by M$ (SHA-1[XP/Vista readable] + SHA-2 file signatures of Aug 13th 2020); also, read: https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/repack-visual-c-redistributable-runtimes-2021-01-14.76588/page-27#post-1630817
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My Browser Builds (Part 2)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
The fork below, made by a compatriot of yours , is being still maintained, latest update was 4 days ago... https://addons.palemoon.org/addon/ematrix/ -
My Browser Builds (Part 2)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Kinda off-topic, yet it speaks volumes about "upstream"... Moonchild is now blocking in (official) Pale Moon (recently updated to v29.0.0) an extension made by his ousted ex-associate JustOff (former head of PM localisation team): https://github.com/JustOff/moon-tester-tool/releases resulted in: https://repo.palemoon.org/MoonchildProductions/Pale-Moon/commit/1c163a1 which, in turn, resulted in: https://github.com/JustOff/moon-tester-tool/issues/10 PS: The MTT extension allows PM users to prolong the functioning of (otherwise still compatible) "originally-made-for-Firefox-only" legacy extensions (as the ones inside CAA), that are currently being hard-blocked in the latest versions of PM... The logic behind them being blocked is that PM users should move away from unmaintained, old, Firefox-exclusive extensions to "equivalent", maintained, ones from inside APMO ; the block is also used as a means to coerce the community of PM users into forking those old extensions to new ones, targeting PM... But the harsh reality is often times quite different to the devs' dreams/expectations, MTT offers a backdoor that Moonchild (and, no doubt, M.A.T. ) wants permanently shut... -
My Browser Builds (Part 2)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Thanks, once again, for your erudite guidance! After more searching done on my part, the culprit is indeed the Adobe DTM SatelliteLib script ; this is compatible with Chromium (of course...) but not compatible with previous Mozilla Firefox versions (like the one UXP is derived from...); so, technically, this issue is still a UXP bug... That script is just a commercial tracking script developed (and served) by Adobe, thus one would expect it to be blocked by default in a content blocker (); I'm not a fan of many layers of browser content protection, that make it more difficult to use and/or increase RAM consumption, my standard usage involves just uBO; but the default settings/filterlist subscriptions there don't intercept that script ; even more, EasyPrivacy list (a default one) specifically whitelists it on oracle.com: so it's no wonder why turning uBO ON/OFF makes no difference... In all honesty, I don't consider myself an authority on uBO, so "blocking JavaScript from adobedtm.com" initially left me pondering ... At first I thought I had to add no-scripting: adobedtm.com true inside My Rules tab of the dashboard, but that didn't work ( ; what does work is www.oracle.com assets.adobedtm.com * block (block it when served on www.oracle.com only), or * assets.adobedtm.com * block (block it globally in the browser - it's the thing to do, as the script is incompatible with St52); My Rules supersede Third Party Filters, so can be used despite EasyPrivacy's whitelisting... Another approach to the same issue is to add a custom filter inside the My Filters tab: ! Block globally AdobeDTM scripts ||adobedtm.com^$third-party,important Credits for that last one go to @coffebreak on the official Pale Moon forums ... -
My Browser Builds (Part 2)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
OS: Windows Vista SP2 32-bit Browser: Serpent v52.9.0 (2021-01-27) (32-bit) BuildID=20210127235057 UA: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Goanna/4.8 Firefox/68.0 Basilisk/52.9.0 https://www.oracle.com/index.html does NOT display in latest St52 (and I suspect the same happens with the rest of the UXP-based forks...); even when I fully disable uB0 (v1.16.4.28) and then concede to accepting cookies (in the pop-up window), the page apparently loads fully, but no content is being displayed (blank white tab) ... No warnings/errors are being generated in WebConsole, which makes troubleshooting a pain ... I know that the site did work in the not-so-distant past in UXP, because I used NM28 to register there an Oracle account (so I could download archived Java JRE versions), but apparently Oracle have moved to Chromium-only JS/CSS code , that isn't rendered anymore on latest UXP... A kind soul should definitely pass the info along to "upstream", so they are made aware and possibly offer a solution (?) - though, if it involves Web Components/Custom Elements/Shadow DOM etc, we know it'll be a no go ... For the time being, I'll have to resort to 360EE (which, sadly, is something I do more often recently) :