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Is it possible nlite didn't work cleanly when removing parts from windows (e.g. unneccesary drivers or features like windows-tour)? Didn't anyone suffered the same problem before? Disabling SFC is pretty hidden in nlite's wizard. It seems re-enabling it after installation isn't done by too many users.
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No problem with that. Don't remember mentioning anything legally diffcult after my topic got closed. Not my fault Kelsenellenelvian now believes I of course assume it just is. They sell computers (+software) regularly at specific dates in huge parts of the country. Imagine WalMart in US just would sell illegal XP-copys on some day before christmas, it was just scandalous - same here. So no, I doubt my disk is legally problematic. As to Hiren's: I use parted-magic-linux instead now - just to calm down everybody. Edit: Oh forgot this: It's strange for me too. I think...maybe....sfc always asks for the disk when file-versions don't match. It's possible it actually finds the Cd but not newest version of specific files. As to my disk: I run some non-integratable Updates in RunOnceEx.cmd after XP's main-setup, silently. These updates are: Windows-KB909520-v1.000-x86 Visual C++ Redistributable 2005 Visual C++ Redistributable 2008 .NET 3.5 WindowsXP-KB923191-x86 WindowsRightsManagementServicesSP2-KB917275 WindowsXP-KB901190-x86 SFU3-KB939778-X86 SFU35-KB939778-X86 IE7-Update KB938127-v2 IE7-Update KB947864 Script-Engine-Update WindowsMedia6-KB925398-v2-x86 mp10setup.exe ...and a huge dotnet-Updatepack (about 400MB) with all updates for .NET 2, 3, 3.5 and 4. It needs about two hours for installation. I just got the idea inserting the original cd upon sfc's request to see if it gets accepted. Sorry, up to now I just didn't get that idea. Edit2: Yes, the original CD works.
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...sounds almost commercial to me...
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??? Well at time of writing you did - I think you did well:
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Hey Kelsen, just found some other threat from you on a different forum offending some member of a foundation! His answer: Your answer: You like running the show, do you?
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LOL, didn't see the date. Just postet in some threat with view answers! But yes, I recognized you are very active here as well.
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submix, I just like your picture! It fits to your answer right now. If you red carefully, you would know that it is a microsoft-bug that the inf-file reads professional instead of home. Propably the change came with some hotfix. However, microsoft recommends changing the file manually to replace all occurences of "professional" with "home" (See previously posted link). I told you in my other threat already, the PC was from a (well-known) supermarket-chain. They did customize the disk slightly. Well, as soon I modify it in layout.inf (e.g. uppercase instead of lowercase) sfc stops requesting a disk (though no disk is inserted). So I reverted my changes - SFC is asking for CD again. I changed all cdtag-entrys in ims.inf to uppercase - no change in behavior. SFC still asks for the Service Pack 2 CD. I googled around and many people say it's possible files on cd are older because of updates - hence the message: you inserted the wrong cd.
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You know what? I don't believe the strings I edited in the three files are really CD-Labels. In the original version of ims.inf for instance the string-section reads: [Strings]REG_UNINSTALL="Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall"REG_INETSTP="Software\Microsoft\InetStp"REG_INETMGR="Software\Microsoft\InetMgr"REG_SVCS_INETINFO="System\CurrentControlSet\Services\InetInfo"REG_KEYRING="Software\Microsoft\Keyring"REG_APPPATHS="Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths"REG_CLSID="Software\Classes\CLSID"REG_SLATE_MMC="Software\Microsoft\MMC"SZ_SLATE_ID="{A841B6C2-7577-11d0-BB1F-00A0C922E79C}"; the following are localizableSDESC_IMS="SMTP-Dienst";Do not localize for Far East languages (CHS/CHT/KOR/JPN).LDESC_IMS="Unterstützt die Übertragung von E-Mail."SDESC_IIS_SMTP="SMTP-Dienst";Do not localize for Far East languages (CHS/CHT/KOR/JPN).LDESC_IIS_SMTP="SMTP-Dienstdateien"SDESC_IIS_SMTP_DOCS="Dokumentation für SMTP-Dienst"LDESC_IIS_SMTP_DOCS="SMTP-Dienst-Dokumentationsdateien"SZ_SLATE_NAME_STRING="Internetdienste"; sneely: changed to add media strings here. Note that [strings] must be the last section in this filecdname = "Windows XP Professional-CD-ROM"productname = "Windows XP Professional"bootname1 = "Windows XP Professional SP2 Setup – Startdiskette"bootname2 = "Windows XP Professional SP2 Setup – Diskette 2"bootname3 = "Windows XP Professional SP2 Setup – Diskette 3"bootname4 = "Windows XP Professional SP2 Setup – Diskette 4"bootname5 = "Windows XP Professional SP2 Setup – Diskette 5"bootname6 = "Windows XP Professional SP2 Setup – Diskette 6"cdtagfile = "\win51ip";{locked}cdtagfilei = "\win51ip";{locked}cdtagfilem = "\win51mp";{locked}boottagfile1 = "\disk101";{locked}boottagfile2 = "\disk102";{locked}boottagfile3 = "\disk103";{locked}boottagfile4 = "\disk104";{locked}boottagfile5 = "\disk105";{locked}boottagfile6 = "\disk106";{locked}spcdname = "Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 CD"spcdtagfilei = "\win51ip.sp2";{locked}cd2name = "Windows XP Professional CD2"cd2tagfilei = "\win51ip2";{locked}The string cdname = "Windows XP Professional-CD-ROM"is far too long for a CD-Label. My Orig-XP-CD's label is "GER_HOME_SP2". Therefore I think I didn't manipulate the inf-files in the proper way. I also tried my new Iso with all possible cd-tag-filename-combinations in root-folder. It doesn't get accepted as well. How could I figure-out CD-identification is done within the three files?
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Reboot.pro might have usefull informations for you. They have a driver called firadisk. Grub4Dos can copy a whole ISO into RAM. It's slow but it works. However, when the Iso contains windows it will crash afterwards because windows don't know how to read the virtual-CD from RAM (only grub does). Firadisk is fixing this problem, helping windows to continue running from virtual disc in RAM, grub created. This is acutally meant for PE-discs like bartspe. But maybe it's possible to integrate the firadisk driver into XP-Setup somehow to run a whole installation from RAM. Edit: Here another link with a similar topic. Please post your attempts if you should try it.
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Your script is really interesting! Without extensions like Joliet or RockRidge, ISO-4 is the only ISO9660-filesystem giving a valid output. If someone wants higher compatibility, he/she should choose ISO-2 or ISO-3 since they replace everything unreadable with underscore. Usage of wrong codepage causes RockRidge and ISO-4 to include gibberish-chars. Joliet always seem to work. However, I got an Iso one time with broken Joliet-filenames as well. No idea how to reproduce that.
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LOL! Thank you!
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I could provide some .reg-files, I created. Not sure if some ain't language-dependent but they could be usefull for other readers nevertheless. Disable_System-Sounds.reg Enable_File-Protection.reg Explorer-Show_Adressbar.reg Explorer-Show_Statusbar.reg Explorer-Customize_Toolbar.reg (shows cut-, copy- and paste-icons !!) Register_Winamp_Filetypes.reg Replace-Notepad_with_Metapad.reg Remove_RecycleBin.reg Switch_off_Remote-Desktop.reg Replace-Taskmanager.reg (with SystemExplorer) SetWallpaper.reg Show_Quick_Launch.reg Disable_WindowsBeep.reg (not sure if working) New_TimeServers-for_Windows.reg Update-Time_Twice_a_day.reg Unblock_CDR.reg Unblock_Excel.reg Unblock_PPT.reg Unblock_Word.reg Switch_Off_Scripting_Host.reg (not in use, because needed by a .NET-Update-pack) These are actually all my system-modifications. Autoit-Scripts are used in addition to create shortcuts and move them within start-menu.
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Yeah, you told me a couple of times....up to now I proofed you wrong every single time. I got everything to work properly (with lots of help from here). The whole setup is really unattended now. I even wrote autoit-scripts to cleanup start-menu and quick-launch. But no...no system-changes actually...I think it's within the three .inf-files, I manipulated. I didn't use any tutorial - my modifications are based on my guessings.
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My original XP-CD is Windows XP SP2 Home Edition German. In the root-folder are three tag-files: WIN51WIN51ICWIN51IC.SP2My nlite-disk has the same three files since I didn't modify anything (instead, I added three folders: $OEM$, a folder with a disk-image inside and a folder with non-integratable updates for manual installation, if needed (e.g office-updates, .NET1.1, ramdisk-freeware). The XP-setup is not altered in an unusual way with this. For my next build, I now added the files WIN51MPWIN51ICWIN51IP2WIN51IC.SP2with copying and renaming the present id-files (which all just carry the word "Windows "). I did this just to make sure some other sub-process of sfc might not miss those files. Regarding to compatibility: I downloaded over 400 hotfixes and really sorted them out: IE7-Updates, IE8-Updates, Mediaplayer-Updates...and SP3-Updates. For the last step, I tried all hotfixes rejected by nlite manually on my SP2-machine to see if they are for SP3. I guess it were about 80 or 90 hotfixes. Rest of them is just not working for specific reasons (e.g. windowsinstaller-kb893803-v2-x86.exe is outdated, windows-kb909520-v1.000-x86-deu.exe never works for some reason, SFU3 and SFU3.5 are special-purpose, hotfixes beginning with msxml4 and msxml6 or ie7 sometimes integrate, sometimes not). Hotfixes not getting integrated for unknown reason get called from RunOnceEx.cmd with a silent switch, after XP got installed. I really don't believe my system was incompatible since the hotfixes check by themself if specific files need updates or not. Good idea, thank you. I really wanna come to an end. My DVD is almost finished and I tried so much already...maybe...I might try that one as well...wait...no...actually I don't want. Edit: Just doing some tests with SFC: \windows\system32\dllcacheseems to be the regular folder SFC is taking files from (in case of replacement). If I now remove the file \Windows\help\apps.chmand run sfc /scannowon the commandline, the file does get replaced! So far...SFC seems to work correctly. However, if I remove apps.chm from \windows\system32\dllcache in addition, the file doesn't get missed and replaced. No request for instertion of XP-CD is showing up. I'll try it with a reboot now. Don't think it will change anything.
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@Jaclaz: In this thread is a screenshot of the nlite-option to disable sfc. Edit: Ok, here is the catch: It seems, after changing the three files, sfc doesn't ask for a CD even when there is none inserted. Is this usual or did I fix too much?
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Just playing around with the two mentioned files in the microsoft-article: Microsoft recommends replacing all strings reading "Professional" with the string "Home". Doing so changes the CD-Names WFP is looking for. Up to now I got a partial success. Windows File Protection is not asking for the Service Pack CD anymore. Instead it want's the nlite-CD. fp40ext.inf didn't exist in my fresh n-lite-windows-installation at all. I guess nlite did just remove it, with disabling WFP (or is it called SFC?). So I copied fp40ext.inf from another computer. Also, IMS.inf reads some lines mentioning a CD-Tag-File. There are 3 CD-Tag-Files on my disk but they are not used in IMS.inf. So I replaced the strings with non-existent -CD-Tag-files with vaild ones. In addition I opened the cd-tag-files to look what's inside: WIN51, WIN51IC, WIN51IC.SP2 all just contain the word "Windows". After a reboot however, SFC is asking for the service-pack-CD again and not the nlite-CD anymore. Don't know if this is a progress or not... Edit: There is also a line in fp40ext.inf reading: productname = "Windows XP Home"don't know how this is red from disk. Maybe nlite did change that string too and I have to apply that change to fp40ext.inf as well. SFC however is requesting both disks now: nlite-disk and service-pack-disk, when hitting cancel frequently. Edit: I think I got it: There is a third file C:\Windows\inf\layout.infI opened that file, replaced all CD-Names with my nlite-cd's name and all cd-tag-entries with valid cd-tag-filenames. SFC is still scanning for files but up to now no disk was requested anymore!
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The option is somewhere on the last page of nlite's wizard. I don't think so. The install-files are not modified my be. Additional folders in the root-dir of the disk are common (e.g. a Dotnet-folder was present on my orig-disk, provided by the manufacturer). Usually XP accepts XP-disks with additional folders nevertheless.
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Hi there, I have trouble with windows' builtin file-protection. When activated, it keeps asking for the original XP-CD and won't accept my modified nlite-disk. During unattended installation WFP is turned off to speed-up the process. With a reg-file I re-enabled WFP and got described problem. For deactivation I used the option in nlite before compiling the disk. I already found out on microsoft's homepage that the two files IMS.inf and fp40ext.inf are responsible for that behavior. Does anybody know how to change them so WFP will work as usual with a nlite-cd? Forum-search didn't give me any results. Edit: The reg-file used to re-enable WFP: Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon]"SfcQuota"=dword:ffffffff"SFCDisable"=dword:00000000It needs a reboot to work.
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Take a look at Evalaze, it has both: A limited free edition and a professional one (about 2000 Euro). Best of all is their service: You can upload your software, they make a package out of it and you can download a one-click-installer afterwards. If you are working for a company it might be an interesting offer for you. Another one is spoon studio (about the same price). After registration (and propably payment of course) you can up- and download complete packages there as well. Well know software, like microsoft office, are provided on the website already. With uploading new packages their community grows the collection in addition. You can get a short overview of programs like this here.
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Just found a link inside this forum: "Application Installs Can't find that silent install method for your favourite application? Try searching in here!" Might be usefull for you.
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Thank you, I'll take a look at it. Never heard of it up to now. Hirens of course is official. It's hosted on it's own homepage. Big online-magazines, like heise provide downloads in additon. Afaik the author removed most of the commercial software already. I actually don't know of a tool on disk not being legal. OK, MiniXP of course...well then just don't use it. Regarding to the grub-font. It seems the linked pages talk about fonts in graphical grub. I have help-texts only in text-grub. However the information utf8 is used might be usefull already. My menu.lst was coded in ANSI. I changed that. Maybe this already will do the trick.
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It's called censorship. I didn't link anything and didn't provided any download. Someone asked me what was on my CD. Not my problem you don't like it. As mentioned before, I don't wanna discuss about additional software but about grub/mkisofs-usage since this is the multiboot-subforum. And yes, I meant WPI Guru.
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Actually I thought I used that special version. But with double-checking, I notice I did a downgrade again for some reason. Will try it again, thanks. @Wipi: Please don't use the quote-button for spamming. I don't need the forum's permission to integrate software into my dvd. I've had this discussion about Hiren's on a different forum already. It is officially downloadable, gets recommended in forums like microsoft, tomshardware and others and is just the only full-featured repair-cd of on the web. There is just no commercial alternative. Please just fuck-off and complain at some company..or at hiren's if you prefere that.
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I finally got a working Iso: I changed all XP-filenames to uppercase, as suggested (thanks to cdob/Steve Miller).I changed the line gfxmenu /GFX-BOOT.GFX in menu.lst to gfxmenu /GFXBOOT.GFX and renamed GFX-BOOT.GFX to GFXBOOT.GFXI set LC_ALL to en_US.CP850I set input- and output-charset to cp850 in mkisofsI used Iso Level 3 with Joliet-SupportThe resulting Iso has Graphical Grub4DosAll file- and foldernames uppercase in Grub4Dos' command-line (Iso9660)Special characters converted to underscores in Grub4Dos' command-line (ISO9660)Umlaut- and special-character-support in Windows-Explorer (Joliet)Here my input at the command-line: set LC_ALL=en_US.CP850mkisofs -v -iso-level 3 -l -D -d -J -joliet-long -input-charset cp850 -output-charset cp850 -volid "XP-SP2 -DE_Silent" -A GRLDR/MKISOFS -sysid "Win32" -b grldr -no-emul-boot -boot-load-seg 0x1000 -allow-multidot -hide grldr -hide boot.catalog -posix-L -o E:\XP-SP2-Bugfix5.1.iso F:\n-Lite-TempSomething missing? Yes, sure. Grub4Dos' menu-help can't display Umlaute. Windows File Protection doesn't accept the CD as original. However these are rather minor bugs I can live with. Thanks for all the help.
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Most software gets packed with the always same installers (Wise, Nullsoft, MSI-Installer). These installers use a specific syntax to execute them silently. Just use google or the forum-search to get the switches. Alternatively, the universal switch finder can analyze .exe-files to find their hidden switches. The tool doesn't know all installers out there but quiet a lot. It's always worth a trial. If you can spend some money, google for deployment software, like vmware-app. They can record installations to create one-click-software-packages. It's well known in business-world where software-updates need to be spread quickly and easyly for numerous clients.
