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Update - despite the "install" of the certificate, I continue to get the security warning when I click on the email in OE6. So I guess we really are falling behind after all.

den and Dave-H - Thanks. Following in Dave-H's footsteps, I "installed" this certificate from the Network Solutions email. They're not the greatest ISP, and I don't necessarily trust their own security, but we have been customers of theirs for maybe ten years now, so ... Seem that in both cases the *. data is for a dns provider. Wonder what that means.

den - You are correct that my OE is 6, but my IE is 8. Make a difference?

den - yes - FF 52.3.0 seems to be working OK. The certificate problem occurs more frequently in Outlook Express when i move to certain emails. Just wondering why I continue to get certificate warnings from those emails from Network Solutions, and whether we XP users need to do some more manual installation of good certificate sources.

dencorso - thanks for your link to cisco umbrella root, which I have now installed. (And I will ask for it next time I have Thai food.) However, on my trusty old Outlook Express 6, the week-old email from Network Solutions still throws an error related to its certificate even though, now, the top level of that error (for the Cisco authority root) is now OK. In fact it seems all levels are OK but I still get an error message: "The name on the security certificate is invalid or does not match the name of the site." That name seems to be or include *.opendns.com . Unfortunately, a week ago I could NOT upload anything here to show you. Same now for my new effort to upload an export of that odd certificate error. Is there a way to upload here? Also, are there other good Certificate Authorities I should now install manually? I get the feeling that we need to do that a bit. Thanks as always.

Dave-H and dencorso - you're right as always. KB4025398 installed on July 14. Well, MS catalog updates shows it with update date Aug 28, 2017, Is this an updated update? Thoughts on my security certificate warnings?

To all, but especially heinoganda - 1) In Outlook Express on my XP machine, from time to time I get Security Alert warnings about security certificates. The most recent one seems odd because it's in an email from my wife's ISP domain name host Network Solutions, and I know they sent it because I was on phone with them and I asked for it. The Warning indicates that the toplevel - CA Root certificate is Cisco Umbrella Root CA and that it is not trusted because it is not in the Trusted Root Certificates Authorities store. I have run heinoganda's certificates updater, but that doesn't fix this issue. (Or maybe doesn't fix all of it.) Also, I'd like to attach here the info from this security warning, but my efforts to attach here aren't being accepted, including a zip. What should I do? It's fun pretending to be a tech person, but on this issue the tide just went out, and I just realized I'm skinny-dipping. 2) In the Microsoft Update Catalog, there's a new entry for POS Ready - KB4025398. Should we install manually? Thanks, heinoganda and all.

Mcinwwl -- Well, after shutting down all my PCs and vacuuming them and checking the existing cards, I discovered (or actually re-discovered) the following mostly useless combo of old stuff: My old Optiplex 755 Desktop has a low profile/half height video card with a DMS-59 socket to which my splitter cable is attached. At the end of everything, I left it alone and connected my second monitor to that. So I have expanded monitors off my old Optiplex 755 Desktop XP machine, as I've had every year at this time for my tax prep work. All working, including on an expanded Excel 2003 workbook, but I'm a bit sad I'm not doing this in my newer Win 7 + 10 64-bit machine with my O365 Home (Office 2016). (That XP machine is running good thanks to MSFN and the POS thread that's now 457 pages long.) Because the Opti 755 card is low profile/half height, I cannot move it into my newer Win 7 + 10 64-bit machine, which is full height. Before finishing with the above, and without a full height card at the moment, I tried to connect both monitors to my newer Optiplex 7010 Mini-Tower (full height, no card yet) as follows: One to the VGA socket (as before), and one to the DisplayPort socket. That DisplayPort connection was a little nutty, as I had a short cable that was DisplayPort plug ending in a DVI-D (Dual Link) socket, and then a converter from DVI-D (Dual Link) plug to VGA socket, and then the connection to the second monitor. That DisplayPort connection did not work at all. That monitor connected to DisplayPort did nothing, even if it was the only one connected. In an old unused PC shell, I have another old low profile/half height video card with a DVI-I (Dual Link) socket. But not useful because is not full height. It's a Pegatron D10M1AB1H that is apparently the same as a NVIDIA GeForce G210 512MB DDR2 PCI-Express 2.0 x16 HDMI DVI Half Height Low Profile Graphics Video Card. Never tried it - it came with that shell which I needed three years ago for parts. So after all that, I emailed the IT guys at my company to ask whether they have a leftover full height card with two sockets, with a few options but at least one VGA. Or a full height card with DMS-59. Thanks for encouragement. At least my PCs got vacuumed !!

Mcinwwl - Thanks for pointing out I might have a driver problem. Hadn't thought of that. Both PCs are currently running at 1280 x 1024. Right now, in the Intel HD Graphics Control Panel in the no-card 7010 with only one display hooked up, that's the highest res in the dropdown list. When I connect two displays, that will stay the same, yes? Need to experiment. Or should I just buy a new video card that works with 7 64-bit and 10 64-bit but will accommodate these two older displays? Ideally with two VGA sockets?? Is there such a card? I'm not a gamer - these are home machines for family work, including this week lots of excel to prep bookkeeping to give tax accountant in Sept. So card doesn't have to be fancy. Thanks.

EDITED BELOW Mcinwwl - thanks for fast response. 1) My dual-boot Optiplex 7010 MT 64-bit machine currently has 2) The tech specs you mention are for this 7010 MT, yes? Actually my two existing 17" monitors are older and I don't think they use the Display Port plug. I think BOTH of them use VGA plugs that plug into VGA sockets. 3) Right now, each of my computers has a single monitor attached. The XP machine has an Acer AL1717 monitor that is currently running Analog off the ATI Radeon HD 2400 Pro card (but indicates it might be able to run digital), and the dual-booting 64-bit Optiplex 7010 MT has a DELL E176FP running off the Intel HD Graphics, and I don't remember whether it's digital or analog. I think digital. Now that I'm looking, speccy says both monitors are "Monitor BPP 32 bits per pixel". Well, if I want to move the Acer AL1717 from the XP machine to the Optiplex 7010 MT, should I bother to put a card into the Optiplex 7010 MT or just plug the dang Acer AL1717 in and also run it off the Intel HD Graphics? I have a VGA splitter cord, and so that would plug into the 7010 VGA socket, and both monitors would plug into that splitter cord. Thanks.

Hey, team - A few Qs -- 1) Can I add ANY graphics card to my dual-booting Win 7 Pro 64-bit // Win 10 Pro 64-bit Dell PC (Optiplex 7010 Mini-Tower)? Or must the card be 64-bit itself? My motive for asking is that my dual-booting PC has NO graphics card and I want to hook two monitors up to it instead of one. By the way, I am booting that machine with UEFI, Security Off and Legacy On. 2) On my old XP 32-bit machine, is its old graphics card already a 64-bit card? If yes, I might move it to the dual-booting machine. Speccy says the card in my XP machine is "Bus Width 64 Bit". Here's the full speccy info: Thanks, as always.

SD73 - thanks for suggestion. Belarc comfirms the four are installed.

Hmmm. During the installation of the four, I had both an explorer.exe crash with a Dr. Watson small window and a dumprep crash that dumprep wasn't working with a second Dr. Watson small window. The installations seemed to continue, and I rebooted. No problems so far, and MS Update shows them at the top of the installed list. But are they really installed? (Do I really exist?) Three years ago, August 2014, right in the middle of prepping for my wife's business's tax returns, my old Dell Opti 755 XP PC blew but I was able to do a Frankenstein revival by buying a used Dell Opti 755 without a hard drive and moving everything into it. (Actually had a slightly better CPU.) Got lucky. But here is tax time again, and I'm superstitious. Anyone else having explorer.exe problems?

heinoganda - done: Has everyone installed the new four?

Dencorso wrote Can you even begin to imagine what might happen if I wrote that guide? The disaster unleashed would make NotPetya seem like a misspelled email. We'd end up in adjoining jail cells. Roffen would have to come by occasionally to bring care packages with coffee beans and more questions.

dencorso, jaclaz, heinoganda and other wizards - for nostalgia sake, I just took a look at page 1 of this mighty thread. May I suggest that you insert at the very top a compressed guide to what we're doing now? In case others stumble upon this only three years late. (A new post in AskWoody asked how to do the XP POS hack and was introduced to a page on ghacks. But that hasn't been updated since 2014.) I think we're now all using the simplest one-item reg hack, with particular single updates to WU and maybe IE so that everything continues to work. You all have discovered and repeated those steps for the rest of us from time to time, but they are somewhere in the past of this time-tube. I was a newbie when I started here, but today I am a man!

Yup, Dave-H, twelve in and good for me. Niko - not to worry, buddy, we led the way for you. (Ha.) By the way, niko, that 2002 forum thread was some find! And it is correct - my folder WINDOWS\\PCHEALTH\\HELPCTR\\OfflineCache does not have that index.dat, and probably due to the very reason mentioned - my use of Spider, remember that one? It's probably the oldest privacy app I have. Impressive, pal ! dencorso - we love you baby !!! (PS - In case that's not what you needed, I just have a shortcut .lnk that runs the msinfo32.exe program but with /showcategories in the link parameters.)

Hey, Dave-H, niko wants to know if you're OK with this week's updates.

dencorso and niko32 - Dat's interesting. First, did you really mean msinfo32.exe, with a "32" in the file name? Second, right now, before this update, msinfo32.exe in that folder is version 5.1.2600.0, last modified August 4, 2004. BUT ... it has not worked well for a long time - invoking it brings me only to the generic "Help and Support Center" function. To get it to work well, I have a shortcut that invokes "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\MSInfo\msinfo32.exe" /showcategories . I haven't run this week's updates yet -- you know I always wait to see if your PCs survive or get updated to Win 3.1 against your will -- but if I run this one, do you think it will fix my minor problem with msinfo32.exe ?

conductor71 - please time this. I wonder how long it will take your laptop (obviously meant for Win 2000) to ingest all 80. It's my kind of thing. My wife says I could be a PC repairman if I did only Windows 98.

Bersaglio - thanks again. Turns out KB3203427 was already installed; it just wasn't showing in my history list in Microsoft Updates. (But it does show in Belarc Advisor.) And my USP10.dll is version 1.626.6002.24099 with file date May 5, 2017. And your other must-haves on bottom of page 99 are also installed. Always happy to be safe (with the doors locked). EDIT - but it turns out that KB3203427 was NOT on my wife's two small office PCs, which (thanks to my cheapness) are still running Office 2003 even though they are Win 7 Pro 64-bit. So I installed it manually on both from your links on page 99. (I bought her two PCs used - old Optiplex 780s - with used beat-up screens too. Makes me proud.) So much for Office 2003 getting any emergency updates automatically. If MS provides a late-day urgent update for Office 2003, why doesn't it show up automatically? Do MS's in-house lawyers say they should provide an emergency update for XP nuts like us but not Win 7 people? How do non-nuts keep safe?

Dave-H - You are quite right, as always. No smiley face in IE 11. (Too bad!) But the update seems to be for "Viewer". Should I really install it for my full Office 2003 on my XP machine? The other KBs suggested by Bersaglio as well? Thanks.

Bersaglio - you write on June 17, "Before searching for updates: 1. If You have Office 2003 download and install manually KB3203427 and KB3203484 (see my list earlier in this topic)." (Here's the link: JUNE 17 POST .) I just started looking for KB3203427 in MS Update Catalog, and it appears only for Viewer, not Office 2003 directly. And - total crazy - when I click to read the KB article, all I get is a screen with a smiley face, on MS !!!! No kidding !!!! Still install it? Thanks.

den - Nice selfie! As it turned out, the problem may have been that I had ceased using Socks5 proxies and had been pushed to HTTP proxies. Originally, HideMyAss had Socks5 proxies on its free list, but then stopped and showed only HTTP proxies, which I then used, and now not even any free proxies at all. Late yesterday, I found a new source of free proxies for Socks5, and as soon as I tested one of them and inserted it into uTorrent, the downloads started fast. Try https://www.socks-proxy.net/# But thanks for new yoga position.

Used uTorrent for many years, with free proxies from HideMyAss or other sources. (I always check the free proxy IPs first to be sure they show as proxies and will connect on to https websites.) uTorrent was always a bit slow to start a download but would get up to speed once a download finally started. (uTorrent will speed up when "Peer Exchange" finally shows many seeds.) All downloads and uploads are always encrypted (the E flag always shows in the Peers list). Well, not this weekend. Have the torrents and good tracker lists with many trackers "working" for each torrent and showing many seeds. But it just won't start downloading - even through four different proxies that otherwise test good. (And "Peer Exchange" stays at zero.) What to do? If my favorite forum MSFN isn't the right place to ask, please suggest a good forum. Thanks.