Yushatak

I'm strongly considering purchasing rloew's RAM patch and putting 98SE on my modern box, it's specs: Core 2 Quad 3Ghz (I know all existing software will only use one core, don't care, that's fine) 6GB RAM (It should use 4GB with the patch, the other 2GB will be used as a RAMDisk or be ignored) ATI Radeon 4870 2GB VRAM (Here's where I'm worried.. I could put an older PCI card in I suppose for use with 98SE, but I'd rather not have to have two GPUs) Audiophile 24/96 Audio (I know this will work, has drivers from Win95 and Mac OS 8.6 up through Win7-64 and Mac OSX 10.5.8 - great card to own) Gigabyte P43-ES3G Motherboard (ICH10) Realtek RTL8168D/8111D PCIe Network card (onboard) Hauppauge HVR-1800 PCIe (not necessary to have working under 98SE) Linksys 802.11g PCI Wifi card (not necessary to have working under 98SE will remove if I add 98SE anyway) Silicon Image 3124 PCI SATA controller (has 98 drivers, shouldn't be a problem) Total of eight physical internal SATA disks. Voodoo 2 (This isn't in there at the moment, I'll likely replace the wifi with it if I go through with this) The idea is to dualboot 98SE and Windows 7 64-bit. Win7 for the "serious work" and 98SE for old games, software, and tinkering around with hardware access and programming for old machines. As I said above, I think the GPU will be the big issue. AFAIK drivers for 9x stopped at the X1950 or so. Perhaps I'm wrong, or perhaps there's some more-generic driver for it? My monitor runs at 1920x1200, but I think that shouldn't be a problem provided a GPU that can handle it under any other OS, as 98 supports widescreen just fine. I need input on the GPU situation and any other input you might think useful.

I've long been considering a dualboot with Win98SE on my main desktop that runs Win7-64. I'm confident I can find a netcard driver (there's even a packet driver... network cards have awesome support) and for sound I can always toss in an older PCI card (same for network, if I couldn't get it working). For RAM I could buy rloew's patch, or limit it using .ini fixes. The concern here is my graphics card. It's a Radeon HD 4870. The highest supported I've seen around is X800 series. I know that there are unofficial drivers for nVidia that support modern cards in their line, but what about ATI? I also know there's VESA drivers and such, but these are unlikely to get me native resolution (1920x1200) and the performance necessary to run games on the system. So I ask, does anybody know how to get a fairly modern Radeon working under 98SE? Has anybody done it?

For the heck of it, I plugged in my Arc Mouse (my mouse of choice) into my Presario 3020 running 98SE. It detected it and works fine. Scroll wheel doesn't scroll, but I imagine I could find a way to make it work if I cared. It's wireless, btw. Wireless vs wired doesn't matter, CharlesF, as the PC isn't concerned with that - that's all a matter of the equipment in the mouse and transceiver. As for wireless keyboard, the Arc Keyboard is recognizable as a standard USB keyboard so that it can work with devices such as the X360, PS3, etc. - so it would undoubtedly run on 98SE as well just fine and it's wireless too. There are also older PS/2 wireless devices that were around back when 98SE was still supported.. I used to have one back in 2000 or so, a set - they ate batteries for breakfast, though, heh. There's even a few serial wireless devices - my Presario 3020 has a Logitech Mouseman Cordless that came with it, and the receiver is built into the base. It's hooked up via internal serial header and is recognized as a serial mouse until you install the drivers (doesn't function as a serial mouse without the drivers, but point is it's serial and 98SE and wireless..).

It can be done, but I recommend either using the 98 machine as the "server" or setting up an FTP and using FileZilla if you want to go the other way. It's quicker and easier to do.

I strongly recommend K-Meleon over Opera - far faster - it's actually bearable on a 200Mhz Pentium running Win98SE that's next to me right now whereas Opera is unusable. If you run 98SE on modern HW, I suppose it doesn't matter much, however. I'd recommend OpenOffice on a modern box, but it's Java powered so it will crawl on an older box - dunno what does DOCX on that kind of hardware well, but I'd be interested to know as well. I haven't checked if it does DOCX, but Abiword is pretty light iirc.

Opera 10 is good, but I prefer K-Meleon - it's faster and provides the same level of compatibility. I run it on a 200Mhz Pentium and it's about 3x as fast as Opera 10.6 on that box. They also actually support 98SE, as it's basically a version of Firefox targeted at weaker machines (and thusly older OSes than Firefox is).

The links are dead! I've sent a PM to Tihiy, but if somebody else has the tools and can throw them up online someplace it would be appreciated. Edit: He fixed them - tossed them on Rapidshare for me/us.

Works fine on a P3-class all-in-one machine I have. Refuses to boot (bootlog indicates it gets stuck initializing TCP/IP) on my Presario 3020 desktop. 2.1a works fine on this machine.

I love the original 98 icons for My Computer, Network Neighborhood, and Recycle Bin. I do not like the ME/2k-style ones. These are forcefully applied with the SE SP 2.1a or the beta (the beta refuses to boot on my Presario 3020, though).. how can I revert to the 98se icons? Any idea why this isn't a checkbox'd option in the SP? Edit: I remembered that I can just use the desktop properties applet to swap the icons, but it would be nice to know how to switch them via registry or whatever that applet changes so I could do so automatically (slipstreaming ftw?).