Hi all, Since BFG support has been less than helpful, maybe somebody here can tell me what I'm doing wrong (or not doing right). I've read everything in this thread and nothing I tried has worked so far. I have both a BFG 7800 GS OC 256MB AGP and an ASUS 7600GS 256M AGP video cards in the hopes of using them in my Win98SE boxes. But so far I've tried them with five different motherboards and with fresh installs (format C: and install OS off of CD) of Win98SE (and one with WinME) and I can't get them to work. I've tried the following, all fresh installs (so I've tried at least 48 fresh installs with no success), and I always get the same results: ASRock 4CoreDual-SATA2 R2.0 (VIA PT880 Pro/Ultra) 512MB Samsung SyncMaster 225BW (with drivers not installed) Each time a fresh install of Win98SE (with MaxPhysPage and MaxFileCache settings for 512MB RAM) VIA Version - 5.22A (tried installing before the Forceware, and tried installing both before AND after the Forceware) Forceware - 82.16(BFG) DirectX - not installed Asus K8V-X SE (VIA K8T800) 512MB NEC MultiSync LCD2080UX (with drivers not installed) Each time a fresh install of Win98SE (with MaxPhysPage and MaxFileCache settings for 512MB RAM) VIA Version - 4.56v, and 5.10A (tried installing before the Forceware, and tried installing both before AND after the Forceware) Forceware - 82.16(BFG), 82.69(MDGx) DirectX - not installed ASRock 775V88 (VIA PT880) 512MB Samsung SyncMaster 225BW (with drivers both installed and not) Each time a fresh install of Win98SE (both with MaxPhysPage and MaxFileCache settings for 512MB RAM and without) VIA Version - 4.53v, 4.56v, 5.07A, and 5.13A Forceware - 82.16(BFG), 82.69(MDGx), 82.69(ZakMcKracken), 81.98(modded for GeForce 7x cards) DirectX - 9.0c (sometimes installed before the Forceware, and sometimes after) ASRock K8S8X (SiS 755) 512MB NEC MultiSync LCD2080UX (with drivers both installed and not) Each time a fresh install of Win98SE (both with MaxPhysPage and MaxFileCache settings for 512MB RAM and without) SiS AGP(GART) Driver v1.09f, v1.17, v1.17e, v1.19a, and v1.21 Forceware - 82.16(BFG), 82.69(MDGx), 82.69(ZakMcKracken), 81.98(modded for GeForce 7x cards) DirectX - 9.0c (sometimes installed before the Forceware, and sometimes after) EPoX 8KRAI PRO (VIA KT880) 512MB Optiquest Q71 (with drivers both installed and not) Each time a fresh install of Win98SE and also tried with fresh installs of WinME (both with MaxPhysPage and MaxFileCache settings for 512MB RAM and without) VIA Version - 4.53v, 4.56v, 5.07A, and 5.09A Forceware - 82.16(BFG), 82.69(MDGx), 82.69(ZakMcKracken), 81.98(modded for GeForce 7x cards) DirectX - 9.0c (sometimes installed before the Forceware, and sometimes after) No matter how I try the install I always have the same problem, after installing the Forceware and letting it reboot, the system hangs when trying to enter Windows GUI mode. You have to power cycle the system, boot into safe mode, reboot, and you are back to the default generic VGA drivers. Tried to install Forceware again a couple of times in case it would "take" if installed twice in a row but same results. At least once with each system tried to do a clean install exactly following the directions that came with the BFG card, to no avail. I've also tried installing with different BIOS settings, for example installing with AGP 1X, all safe settings, etc. One consistent thing I've noticed is that I never see the nVIDIA BIOS message on the screen before the system BIOS splash screen with either card like I always see with my 6200, 6600 and 6800 cards--is that normal for the 7600 and 7800??? Can this be made to work under Win98SE? I hope you will have some advice on what I can do to get this to work. Thanks, Feamane