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Same to you Problemchyld! The updates are so cool and I now have them on five or six of my ancient pcs. This Service Pak project is SO much better than in those days when win98 was in its first versions.

Just ignore me if I'm not helping ..... I also like to see folder details rather than icons on win98. I dunno why, but the only way I can ever make that stick (after say, a clean install).. is to set a folder to the view I want ....then go to control panel... folder options (or whereever it is there in that neighborhood) and then UN-check "remember folder view" (or whatever that is there where you can also check whether to see hidden files etc). Seems that win98se then is fine in calling up my folder details view from then on... which is strange because I've basically told windows to NOT remember the folder views. Don't know why that is, but it's a subconscious thing for me now to always un-check that box in folder options. Stuff then stays the way I want.

Just wanted to say that I'm still enjoying playing with the Service Packs on 6 of my old old pcs. So much fun. By the way, SP 3.2 took 12 seconds to download via one of my Win7 64bit IE9 systems on Fios.

I haven't downloaded win 8 yet, but plan to on a system here in a couple of weeks. I'm historically, a messy computer user. I hardly ever use the start orbs/buttons or taskbar. For win98, xp, win7, I pretty much have shortcut icons all over the place on the screen to click start programs that I use. It's really random and messy and all over the place... the way I like it (I guess) I don't often search files.. I just go into the folders where I know I have stuff and pull up things I need. If I can find a drive letter icon somewhere, I'm set for searching. My question... Is Metro basically the same workflow I've used now all these years? That is... my program icons will still be all over the place... but now they'll be tied to little colorful squares that I click on? If so... cool. MS has finally caught on to the way I work. If I'm somewhat correct on the above, I guess the only thing I'll have to locate is device manager and control panel for the random times I need to access those.

I even asked that question when 3.0 was first released. And I read the instructions. I can understand a question becoming boring torture. Maybe a quick edit of the black release instructions might help. Something like ..... --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- USB 2.0 NOTICE - Unplug all USB devices. Install main updates. Remove ALL current USB/EHCI drivers + controllers from Device Manager in safe mode. "All" means "ALL YOU SEE". You wouldn't believe how many people don't get what "all" means. Then, REBOOT! Let all drivers redetect on startup. Plug in USB devices one at a time. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I'd certainly understand that wording. Of course, you'll still get a few who still won't get it and will ask again. By the way, I'm still having so much fun with 3.1 as well as a few of the Revolutions skins on several old systems. I'm sort of bouncing between these installs and checking out windows 8 on other systems. Such a long trip from the dos days.

Just installed sp3 on another computer. An old 1993 Packard Bell with a 75mhz P1 and only 24mb of ram. I also popped in an Adaptec pci usb card I have here. Runs great with the usb and with the limited ram. Some third party programs won't load due to the low ram, but overall, this is pretty cool.

I'll try the new files in about an hour. The machine in its current working form after the tests yesterday (where I also manually copied in the via driver after the fact)- in regedit for the root_hub20 line- HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\USB\ROOT_HUB20\PCI&VEN_8086&DEV_24CD&SUBSYS_80891043&REV_01&BUS_00&DEV_1D&FUNC_07 hardware ID details- usb\root_Hub20&Vid8086&PID24cd&rev001,U --------------- When returning to windows and looking at the properties of the usbhub20.sys file in the system32 drivers folder, the info is- 4.90.3000.11 VIA USB 2.0 HUB Driver Copyright © VIA Technologies, INC. 2002-2005 ------------------------------------------ In device manager, the driver details on the usb 2.0 root hub say- c:\windows\system32drivers\wdmstub.sys (provider Walter oney software ver 5.00.006) c:\windows\system32\drivers\usbhub20.sys (provider Via Technologies Inc ver 4.90.3000.11 c:\windows\system\vmm32\ntkern.vxd (provider Microsoft ver 4.10.2224)

Here's what I did which on a couple of tries, didn't work very well.. fresh install win98se installed main sp3 updates -no to reboot rebooted into pure dos With your test files... copied the 2 inf files to windows\inf... system prompted to replace usb2.inf?... clicked yes copied the .sys file to windows\system32\drivers rebooted into safe mode removed all references to usb rebooted system showed building databases system came up.. I popped in a Lexar 16gb flash drive and got the blue screen zapped the drive and tried again from a fresh install and got the same thing. This time, as a test, I did all the above steps with the test files but I then also manually copied the usbhub20.sys 4.90.3000.11 driver that I had from last week... rebooted... and all is now fine with the flash drives Don't know why this is since I'm guessing your .sys file is the same 4.9.3000.11 (at least the file size seems the same) Did I do the steps wrong? In any case, I do have this system working.

I can try that on the Compaq 6350 that was causing problems last week before the answer was found. I'll just restore a pre-sp3 ghost image of the clean install and it'll be like starting over with whatever modded sp3 install you have. Let me know! I think I have other via based machines in the pile to try although I haven't gotten to them yet.

Didn't see it on a search but I bought Roxio RecordNow 7.3 a few years ago for my xp systems.... but it also works fine with all the win98 systems I've set up here so far. Popped in quite a few different cd/dvd burners in the machines and RecordNow works fine with just about everything under win98se. A little flakey on one of the oldest 96mb ram 98se machines, but that's life. I'm not sure if it's still sold anywhere. Maybe Amazon etc.

Ha! Didn't even think of looking that way. You're right. Thanks!

Just swapped usbhub20.sys files back and forth and here's what I know. Don't know how to interpret this. ... The usbhub20.sys file that came with sp3 is 50,032 in size and causes bsod and crashes if I plug in a usb flash drive.It's name in regedit is - HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\USB\ROOT_HUB20\PCI&VEN_8086&DEV_24CD&SUBSYS_80891043&REV_01&BUS_00&DEV_1D&FUNC_07 For Via, I have the Viausb2v270-l set of "stuff" and from within its Win98me folder, I pulled out the usbhub20.sys file there. The size on that one is 67,568 When I rename the 50,032 size usbhub20 file and replace it with the one from the Via folder that is 67,568 .. the computer works fine with all usb flash drives. Although, in regedit, the actual info is just like the file I took out. It shows ID info- HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\USB\ROOT_HUB20\PCI&VEN_8086&DEV_24CD&SUBSYS_80891043&REV_01&BUS_00&DEV_1D&FUNC_07 I rebooted a few times, swapped the files a few times, and although (to my eyes) they show the same name and ID info ... AND ... still don't say Via anywhere.. the only thing I know is that the file that is 67.568 in size (and came from the Via folder I have... is the one that works. Like I say, I dunno what this all means. The only reference I have from HP/Compaq regarding "Via" is their reference to it for xp users of my machine (Presario VIA USB 2.0 Driver for Windows XP) so that's why I have been figuring there is Via something or other in there. Whatever this all means, I'm glad the system is working.

All is still fine with usb on the Compaq. I do have a question though. Is it unusual that there is no mention of via anywhere in the device manager? In fact when I have this machine set up for xp, I never notice the info on that setup anywhere either. The only reason I knew that the usb in this machine uses Via drivers is from a small cryptic note about it on the Compaq website. Other than that, I've never noticed a reference to via anywhere in device manager or on (I think) Everest when I fired that up one time. Where would that info usually be? Especially since the usbhub20.sys name is the same.

Yippe! I did have a USBHUB20.SYS v. 4.90.3000.11 that I found last week. Just booted the sp3 Compaq 6350 into dos and replaced the existing usbhub20 with the via.. rebooted... and voila ... no bsod or crashes anywhere in sight. I've been plugging and unplugging various flash drives for the last 20 minutes and each new one is recognized and the system plays nice when I remove any of them. I'll keep my fingers crossed. Thanks you guys. One system down and five more to test. This is fun.

This Compaq 6350us has an Asus P4G533-LA motherboard 845GL chipset and a via usb. Sold in 2003 as an xp machine, but I have all the necessary win98 drivers for the intel chip, intel graphics chip, realtek etc . I was gathering some extra Via drivers last week in case needed, I have usbhub20.sys 4.90.3000.2........... and I also have usbhub20.sys 4.90.3000.11 sitting around. I've not done this part before. Do I simply copy one of those into the system32 area, renaming the old one there now? I didn't see an upgrade driver box in device manager that seems to work for these types of files. Thanks guys.