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@jaclaz Thanks for the interesting Info on new features of grub4dos. Instead of having your XP Setup Source on CD, by using winnt32.exe you will make the $WIN_NT$.~LS folder on your Local Harddisk containing the XP Setup Source files. This making of a so called Local Source will be the explanation for the naming of the LS Folder.

Very nice and interesting I think that the SetupSourceChanger will be very handy for people who often need or want to Install different types of XP from USB-stick. Unfortunately, I cannot do a real test of the SetupSourceChanger for Install of XP from USB, because I don't have all these different types of XP. However, a test simulating the process would be possible. What is the reason for Upating in case of Windows XP Media Center OEM the files binifix4.cmd - presetup.cmd and undoren.cmd which are files NOT belonging originally to XP ?

LiveXP BootSDI.img file of only 115 MB provides a full XP-like desktop with Disk Manager and handy programs like Acronis Disk Director for Partioning and Ghost for System Backup or System Restore. BOOT_IMG.exe of U_XP_SET package allows to Install LiveXP BootSDI.img file as boot option in boot.ini Menu and grub4dos menu.lst but requires partition with NTFS filesystem. You can boot then in 30 seconds from RAMDISK with LiveXP BootSDI.img IMAGE file as loaded in a few seconds from your internal harddisk. It boots very fast and easily on machines having only 256 MB RAM.

Booting from RAMDISK with LiveXP allows you to Format the Drive on which you want to Install XP.

= In case of hal.dll Error on Reboot for GUI-mode of XP Setup: The Error means only that in GUI mode the Windows folder is NOT found on the default location which is normally partition(1) of your internal harddisk and would need in boot.ini Menu to Select rdisk(1)partition(1) The error can be due to a Hidden First Partition (case of HP Computer) so that you Install on partition(2) For your Netbook it can be that you Install on partition(3) In that case you Select in GUI-mode and on Start of XP the line in boot.ini Menu with HD 1 - Part 3 It is also recommended to remove any Additional USB-drive like USB Backup Harddisk or External Cardreader since these extra USB-drives may interfere in Harddisk numbering and can cause then also the hal.dll Error. In TXT-mode of XP Setup, where you Select the partition on which you are going to Install, you must count the partition number and use this in your boot.ini Menu on your USB-stick on Reboot for GUI-mode of XP Setup and for Start of XP. To solve your hal.dll Error you need to Change the boot.ini file on your USB-stick. It can be handy to make a boot.ini with multiple entries like this: [Boot Loader] Timeout=20 Default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS [Operating Systems] C:\btsec\XPSTP.bs="1. Begin TXT Mode Setup Windows XP, Never unplug USB-Drive Until Logon" multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Continue GUI Setup + Start XP from HD 0 - Part 1" /FASTDETECT multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Continue GUI Setup + Start XP from HD 1 - Part 1" /FASTDETECT multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Continue GUI Setup + Start XP from HD 1 - Part 2" /FASTDETECT multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(3)\WINDOWS="Continue GUI Setup + Start XP from HD 1 - Part 3" /FASTDETECT multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Continue GUI Setup + Start XP from HD 2 - Part 1" /FASTDETECT Partition Numbering starts with 1 Harddisk Numbering starts with 0 On booting from USB-stick it will count in the arcpath as rdisk(0) and your Internal Harddisk will then normally be rdisk(1) As alternative you can try: Install XP from USB AFTER Booting with PE from HDD or USB http://www.boot-land.net/forums/?showtopic=5306 In this way you are insensitive to the hal.dll Error Moreover, after booting with LiveXP into PE environment you are able to use Disk Manager and can see what is the partitioning of your harddisk and see which is the Active Partition e.g. the partition from which the computer will try to boot. Also you can make then appropriate changes using Disk Manager or Acronis Disk Director available in LiveXP =

Yes, have a try

The Error means only that in GUI mode the Windows folder is NOT found on the default location: rdisk(1)partition(1) Is there any other USB-drive (Backup Harddisk or Cardreader) connected which changes disk numbering ? I see you tried already partition(2) in boot.ini , but may be it is still worthwhile to read: Tutorial USB_MultiBoot_10.cmd at Boot Land Forum See: http://www.boot-land.net/forums/?showtopic=4900 hal.dll Error See: http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showto...25547&st=13 As alternative you can try: Install XP from USB AFTER Booting with PE from HDD or USB http://www.boot-land.net/forums/?showtopic=5306 In this way you are insensitive to the hal.dll Error

Did you delete partitions ? In that case you have to Reboot with TXT-mode of Setup. Disconnect ANY other USB-drive like Backup Harddisks or Cardreaders. Try to reboot from USB-stick with TXT-mode of XP Setup and Select just your C: Drive as Install Partition, Select Quick Format with NTFS FileSystem. If that does NOT work, it might be that you are missing a MassStorage driver. For Install of XP on a modern system with SATA Drives it is needed to use DPsBase.exe for Integrating in your XPSOURCE BTS DriverPack Massstorage with TXT Mode Enabled. In that case a lot of Extra RAID SCSI and SATA Drivers (about 120 extra) are Integrated which appear in the XP Setup BootFolder $WIN_NT$.~BT on Install-Drive and can prevent a lot of XP Install Boot Problems. The program supports the use of BTS DriverPacks located in OEM Folder on USB-Drive http://driverpacks.net/DriverPacks/ If No success then try to use http://www.boot-land.net/forums/?showtopic=5306

Strange Error, I never have seen it Did you delete partitions ? In that case you have to Reboot with TXT-mode of Setup Disconnect ANY other USB-drive like Backup Harddisks or Cardreaders. Try to reboot with TXT Setup and Select just your C: Drive as Install Partition. What is the Partitioning of your Harddisk ? What Selection can you make ? Is your USB-stick occurring above your Internal Harddisk in the DriveList of TXT-mode Setup ? And what is the DriveLetter of the USB-stick in this list ? As alternative try to use http://www.boot-land.net/forums/?showtopic=5306

What kind of Harddisk are you using ? May be you are missing SATA driver For Install of XP on a modern system with SATA Drives it is needed to use DPsBase.exe for Integrating in your XPSOURCE BTS DriverPack Massstorage with TXT Mode Enabled. In that case a lot of Extra RAID SCSI and SATA Drivers (about 120 extra) are Integrated which appear in the XP Setup BootFolder $WIN_NT$.~BT on Install-Drive and can prevent a lot of XP Install Boot Problems. Supports the use of BTS DriverPacks located in OEM Folder on USB-Drive http://driverpacks.net/DriverPacks/

Methods for Install of XP are always more or less related and evolve, but the difference with method #2 is that the present Install of XP is done without booting from USB and without using winnt32.exe and that one can use the full XP source folder unchanged and simply copied to USB-stick. The smallest possible PE build as you propose would boot most likely NOT much faster than the 30 seconds for booting from RAMDISK with LiveXP BootSDI.img IMAGE file as loaded in a few seconds from your internal harddisk. LiveXP BootSDI.img file of only 115 MB provides a full XP-like desktop with Disk Manager and handy programs for Partioning and System Backup or System Restore. The present approach comes very close to the challenge of booting with a small PE and then prepare your harddisk for Install of XP. In this way you only need to create the XP Setup BootFolder $WIN_NT$.~BT of 12 MB on the Install Drive by parsing dosnet.inf and need to specify in TXTSETUP.SIF where to find the FULL unchanged XPSOURCE on your USB-stick.

WinSetupFromUSB supports to make USB-stick having UBCD on it http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=120444 See UBCD411 in the ScreenShot

USB_MultiBoot_10 was adjusted for Install of x64 but something like start64.exe was NOT implemented. It seems to me your problem occurs already at TXT-mode of XP Setup, whereas start64.exe is used in presetup.cmd at GUI-mode of XP Setup. Personally I cannot test x64 Install, but you find some more Info here http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=114022 Install Multiple XP versions is supported for different x32 versions. Mixing with x64 might give a problem. Did you try to Install XP x64 from USB-stick without adding additional sources ? I am not sure, but I think that start64.exe is also NOT used in WinSetupFromUSB. Install of x64 XP was also implemented in the NEW approach: Install XP from USB AFTER Booting with PE from HDD or USB http://www.boot-land.net/forums/?showtopic=5306 The advantage of this technique is that the XP source folders can be copied unchanged to your USB-stick and different sources do NOT interfere. No problem for x32 and x64 to coexist. Also you do NOT have the problem of loosing files on USB-stick as occurs in $WIN_NT$.~LS on Install of x64 with WinSetupFromUSB or USB_MUltiBoot_10

Combining options is not always easy. For BootSDI.img it is preferred that the USB-stick has NTFS FileSystem most easily obtained by using HP Format Tool in Make_USB.exe GUI. When booting from USB, loading of BootSDI.img in RAMDISK is launched by RMLD1 file Selected via NTLDR and boot.ini Menu using RMLD1.bs BootSector File. RMLD1 is a renamed SETUPLDR.BIN of w2k3 sp1 and patched for using ramx1.sif instead of winnt.sif file with the required SetupData. In ramx1.sif it is essential that /rdpath=BootSDI.img follows the DOS 8.3 FileName convention since otherwise for FAT and FAT32 we will get Error code 14 for Image file could not be loaded, because the Image file was NOT found on the USB-stick. Your existing USB-stick with LiveXP will have most likely FAT FileSystem as it was made with PeToUSB. The ntldr file is not the real NTLDR, but is SETUPLDR.BIN of w2k3 SP1 and renamed as ntldr. That file cannot be used to get boot.ini Menu. The problems can be overcome. Run Make_USB.exe Use HP Format Tool and Select NTFS FileSystem to Format USB-stick Select PeToUSB and Uncheck Enable Disk Format, Select Target\LiveXP folder and Check Enable FileCopy After PeToUSB has Finished, Rename ntldr in PELDR (the program takes care of that) Now still in Make_USB.exe GUI Select LiveXP BootSDI.img File Select Win XP Setup Source and Uncheck the Copy Checkbox Use GO to make your USB-stick Manually Add in menu.lst file an Entry for launching LiveXP from USB with GRUB4DOS Menu and by using PELDR menu.lst title Boot LiveXP from USB chainloader (hd0,0)/PELDR The advantage of booting with LiveXP BootSDI.img file is that everything is loaded in RAMDISK, so you are FREE to remove your USB-stick or when loaded from harddisk you are FREE to format the boot partition of your internal harddisk. However, for Install of XP from USB it is advisable to boot with LiveXP BootSDI.img file directly from your internal harddisk, since then it takes only 30 seconds instead of 4 minutes when booting with LiveXP BootSDI.img from USB-stick. You can use BOOT_IMG.exe to Install LiveXP BootSDI.img in boot.ini Menu on your harddisk. That is the best approach.

It is indeed Install from USB without booting from USB. So the BIOS Settings does NOT need to be changed and you will boot all the time from your internal harddisk. For Fresh Install of XP you boot NOT into Windows, but Select from the boot.ini Menu direct to boot with LiveXP from RAMDISK loaded with LiveXP BootSDI.img file, which was previously Installed as boot option in boot.ini menu on harddisk by using BOOT_IMG.exe After booting from RAMDISK with LiveXP you are FREE to Quick Format the harddisk partition from which you just have loaded the LiveXP Image File ! Then you run USB_XP_Setup.exe to create the XP Setup BootFolder $WIN_NT$.~BT of only 12 MB on the Install Drive by parsing dosnet.inf and to specify in TXTSETUP.SIF where to find the FULL XPSOURCE e.g. on your USB-stick. On Reboot from harddisk you can Select to launch TXT-mode of XP Setup. For Repair Install there is no need to format and you can also simply boot into Windows (if possible) and Run direct USB_XP_Setup.exe In the case of a brand new harddisk or If you are NOT able to Install the LiveXP boot option on harddisk then you have to boot once from USB or CD/DVD to load LiveXP BootSDI.img file into RAMDISK. It is a way of Install from USB which uses the FULL XP Source unchanged as being used for Install from CD/DVD.

If you follow the procedure of USB_XP_Setup described here http://www.boot-land.net/forums/?showtopic=5306 then you can use the Option: Copy XP Source Folder to Target Drive. That solves your problem and XP Source can be on second partition of USB-drive. However, in that case it is essential that your Target Install Drive is Partition 1 of your Harddisk, so there must NOT be some Hidden Partition being the First Partition.

Booting with LiveXP RAM BootSDI.img Image file as boot option in boot.ini menu on your harddisk is very useful and extremely fast, it boots in only 30 seconds with LiveXP PE. Run BOOT_IMG.exe to Copy WinBuilder LiveXP BootSDI.img Image file to C-BootDrive of Harddisk and make Entry for boot.ini Menu and GRUB4DOS menu.lst for Booting with LiveXP PE from RAMDISK. Tutorial of amalux on how to create LiveXP BootSDI.img files using WinBuilder http://www.boot-land.net/forums/?showtopic=4111 Download Ready to use LiveXP e.g. lx101408cxs from folder Projects in http://amalux.winbuilder.net/ WinBuilder U_XP_SET Script for LiveXP was made, which enables to create LiveXP BootSDI.img file containing U_XP_SET package for Install of XP from PE Environment. So you can direct launch PStart and USB_XP_Setup.exe from the Desktop of LiveXP. U_XP_SET Downloads - http://wimb.winbuilder.net/downloads/ The advantage of the NEW technique for Install of XP from USB is that there are no changes needed in the BIOS Setting. Booting for XP Setup occurs all the time as normal from the C-Install Drive if you Install on C-Drive. Thus the USB-stick does not need to be bootable and it is not needed that the motherboard supports booting from USB.

Hi Siginet, Good to see you around here again. Your idea on combining Multiple OSes for XP Setup from a single USB-stick is quite interesting. I did not know that only 8 files make the difference. When USB_XP_Setup.exe is launched from LiveXP PE Environment, for making the XP Setup Bootfolder $WIN_NT$.~BT on the Install Drive, it would be quite easy to make the required changes in the Full XP Pro Source which resides on the USB-stick. For some cases it is needed that USB_XP_Setup.exe Copies the XP Source to the Install Drive, and then it is easy to make there the changes as well. It means also that in preparing the USB-stick with Make_USB.exe that the 8 files for each XP Version must be collected in separate folders. I think your idea can be implemented in USB_XP_Setup.exe and Make_USB.exe Install XP from USB AFTER Booting with PE from HDD or USB http://www.boot-land.net/forums/?showtopic=5306

**** PROGRAM UPDATE - U_XP_SET Package **** Some USB-sticks e.g. INTUIX 8 GB get inconsequent harddisk number for TXT-mode and GUI-mode of XP Setup as compared to the harddisk number determined in LiveXP environment, mostly due to variable intervening of Cardreader Drives. Such troublesome USB-sticks can result in TXT-mode Setup Memory/CD-Error, which means harddisk nr in SetupSourceDevice in TXTSETUP.sif file is incorrect. The problem is easily solved by using in USB_XP_Setup.exe the Option - Copy XP Setup Source Folder to Target Drive In that case the XP Setup Source on Target Install Drive is always easily found by XP Setup. The Program USB_XP_Setup.exe was changed to use the Copy Option also when XP Source was on USB-stick. migrate.inf for making USB-stick in XP Setup to have Drive Letter U: needed some change and is made now also correct for case of Copy XP Source from USB-stick to Target Drive.

And Here are the results for Firefox: Firefox Copy CODE to Notepad: TAB is replaced by 4 SPACES, rest OK Firefox COPY CODEBOX to Notepad: TAB and multiple SPACE are replaced by single SPACE Rest (CR+LF and empty lines) displayed and Copy OK So Firefox is in this respect different as compared to IE7, but also NOT perfect BootLand Forum gives the same results for Firefox as compared to MSFN Forum CONCLUSION: The most safe way to get your prgram code is to use Copy from Post Reply Box and Paste in Notepad

Just for comparison with BootLand Forum http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?...=6492&st=10 Let's test the following CODE and CODEBOX for Copy and Paste in Notepad using different Browsers: CODE Copy this text from CODE or CODEBOX in your browser display and Paste in Notepad The second line has SPACE separated Words The third line has multiple SPACE separated Words The fourth line has TAB separated Words The seventh line appears after empty fifth and sixth line The result using IE7 as browser is interesting and the same as for BootLand. On Copy in Notepad we see: For CODE the TAB character is replaced by 4 Spaces, rest is OK For CODEBOX all CR+LF are gone (everything in 1 line), but multiple SPACE and TAB are preserved For CODEBOX all empty lines are lost, but reappear in Post Edit or Post Reply Box How does this compare to Opera or FireFox as Browser ?

ddlist.cmd is very handy and is giving for each drive all important identification parameters in one line. Now it is easy to relate drive letter to harddisk and partition number. For the layout it might be preferable to use no TAB and to make it similar to symbol2mvol.cmd Thanks jaclaz for this batch program

AutoIt3 was used to create 3 New GUI Programs for U_XP_SET BOOT_IMG.exe Make_USB.exe and USB_XP_SETUP.exe If you want to use a modified ntdetect.com then put it in U_XP_SET\USB_XP_Setup\makebt\ folder The programs of U_XP_SET will use then this modified ntdetect.com instead of from your XP Source WinBuilder U_XP_SET Script for LiveXP was made using MakeScript.exe of PedroLe15 Download Links and More Info in Updated Tutorial of Post #1 Credits: I would like to thank ilko_t for publishing his AutoIt3 Source of WinSetupFromUSB_0-1-1.au3 at MSFN Forum http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=120444 Parts of WinSetupFromUSB were used for creating Make_USB.exe

Download U_XP_SET from http://wimb.winbuilder.net/downloads/

Copy the Content of your Windows XP Setup CD to your XPSOURCE Folder on Harddisk e.g. folder XPRO Read Tutorial http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=4900 What Program do you use exactly ?