My probs with shrink are now solved, I'll explain my fixes, which may only work for me. I hope it helps someone. For months I was a 7MBiter, I tried everything in all 19 pages, including prathapml's summary. I ended up copying the office2003 files to a CD which made my source a single letter, eg F:\ (with \ for sure after F:}. Now it worked. I made an install of word, powerpoint & publisher, it worked a treat on an unattended CD. I then re-installed Windows & made a new shrink with excel added, bummer, kept doing the "retreat" of office install during unattended, where it starts & suddenly the progress bar goes backwards. Finally I ran setup.exe manually & chose the same choices as my MST file & copied every missing file during install, not many, from source to my shrink office folder & made a new CD- perfect. I now have a winrar SFX of the first shrink=85MB +Excel=105MB One of the missing files was office.dll. looks important, LOL. Hope someone sees something in here that helps.