yeah I'm using the classic version, don't much see the point in using the newer one. Anyways thanks for the help I'll input the feedback tomorrow, I'm too tired right now. ps. don't you all think it was a stupid idea for M$ to implement the XP style, i can imagine it confused a great deal of people that are used to the classic style, which is easier. simply put xp has very much crap built in to it, but win2k is getting too old.