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No problem @xper it's all good!

Invision Community Dropped Legacy Engine Support Modern versions of Invision Community (especially Invision 4.x and the newest Invision 5 infrastructure) are heavily built on modern JavaScript frameworks, CSS grid variants, and Progressive Web App (PWA) components. Pale Moon uses the Goanna engine (a legacy fork of Mozilla's older Gecko engine). Because Pale Moon does not natively compute or follow modern JavaScript ECMAScript standards at the same pace as Chromium or standard Firefox, interactive features on your forum will completely shatter. Features like the text editor box, notification drops, AJAX content loading, and login popups will continuously throw errors or appear blank to Pale Moon Running an Invision Community forum while catering to users on legacy or non-standard browsers like Pale Moon creates an impossible web development conflict. You should treat Pale Moon issues as an unfixable, client-side problem rather than something you need to resolve on your server. Turning features off on server to cater to one or two Pale Moon users strips security and optimization benefits away from the 99% of your community navigating via Chrome, Safari, or Firefox. I don't have time for arguing. End of discussion. You don't like it? You have other forums.

https://msfn.org/board/topic/187862-server-forum-upgrade/ What do you expect me to do? Because of old software, I had terrible problems with the server. Surely you don't expect me to develop compatibility for Pale Moon or any other browser? The development of the forum software is not in my hands. End of story. Period.

I've updated my old-fashioned youtube-dl.exe. It now includes the visionOS client information in the YouTube extractor. See this pull request. ./youtube-dl -v 6p7f7gAj4Uk [debug] System config: [] [debug] User config: ['--console-title', '--rm-cache-dir', '-i', '-o', '/dev/shm/test-ytd/%(title)s.%(ext)s', '-f', 'bestvideo[height<=1080][ext=mp4][vcodec^=avc]+bestaudio[ext=m4a]/best[ext=mp4]/best', '--no-mtime', '--embed-thumbnail', '--force-ipv4'] [debug] Custom config: [] [debug] Command-line args: ['-v', '6p7f7gAj4Uk'] [debug] Encodings: locale UTF-8, fs utf-8, out utf-8, pref UTF-8 [debug] youtube-dl version 2026.08.23 [debug] Lazy loading extractors enabled [debug] Single file build [debug] Python 3.10.12 (CPython x86_64 64bit) - Linux-5.15.0-190-generic-x86_64-with-glibc2.35 - OpenSSL 3.0.2 15 Mar 2022 - glibc 2.35 [debug] exe versions: ffmpeg N-125972-ge13b2e00e8-Nico-20260806, ffprobe N-125972-ge13b2e00e8-Nico-20260806, rtmpdump 2.4 [debug] Proxy map: {} Removing cache dir /home/nico/.cache/youtube-dl .. [youtube] 6p7f7gAj4Uk: Downloading webpage [youtube] 6p7f7gAj4Uk: Downloading VISIONOS API JSON [youtube] 6p7f7gAj4Uk: Downloading m3u8 information [youtube] 6p7f7gAj4Uk: Downloading thumbnail ... [youtube] 6p7f7gAj4Uk: Writing thumbnail to: /dev/shm/test-ytd/Βέβηλος _ Ακάθαρτοι συμμ. Ματούλα Ζαμάνη.jpg [debug] Invoking downloader on 'https://rr3---sn-u15hn5-cc.googlevideo.com/videoplayback?expire=1787486311&ei=B4yKatPKIdq6zPsP9dzOiQM&ip=<REDACTED> &id=o-AGjSrhMVDDk3_jKqNHQfGsrY2oWejYirD11QpTDBIkrK&itag=137&source=youtube&requiressl=yes&xpc=EgVo2aDSNQ%3D%3D&cps=210&met=1787464711%2C&mh=TD&mm=31%2C29&mn=sn-u15hn5-cc%2Csn-5hnekn7z&ms=au%2Crdu&mv=m&mvi=3&pl=19&rms=au%2Cau&initcwndbps=3891250&bui=AR3QkAkDt1_g3LCZjMXIxkCVc8-W0tGMIM_6sBK3NGAHf4yPJIihO2KPezPDpD_afM1QFfB8P3Cxk9Oq&spc=KBGBcsMQiLFWnlI5uJk7Z82SosMcEvnZawKZsT26x_MoqDnZ46KjcPK-kA&vprv=1&svpuc=1&mime=video%2Fmp4&rqh=1&gir=yes&clen=51343758&dur=310.000&lmt=1733645440420066&mt=1787464360&fvip=5&keepalive=yes&fexp=51565116&c=VISIONOS&txp=4532434&sparams=expire%2Cei%2Cip%2Cid%2Citag%2Csource%2Crequiressl%2Cxpc%2Cbui%2Cspc%2Cvprv%2Csvpuc%2Cmime%2Crqh%2Cgir%2Cclen%2Cdur%2Clmt&sig=AE0s2JYwRQIgEWnrYi-gVj6A-TlgvUVxNIayGFITp5jJNf36jd3XAwQCIQCIrHyshicOhH93LO0Pkt1mK7ETKK5gaTIy9QKnH9ls4w%3D%3D&lsparams=cps%2Cmet%2Cmh%2Cmm%2Cmn%2Cms%2Cmv%2Cmvi%2Cpl%2Crms%2Cinitcwndbps&lsig=APaTxxMwRQIhAIbAGUIA_MNMGaiw8vyLB-91zx2F4IWiqmaFGC4b7hBbAiAm2-OG5OjJ0CY1y4haN_bumVXGOfSky3M6Rmvc4oOkDQ%3D%3D' [dashsegments] Total fragments: 5 [download] Destination: /dev/shm/test-ytd/Βέβηλος _ Ακάθαρτοι συμμ. Ματούλα Ζαμάνη.f137.mp4 [download] 100% of 48.97MiB in 00:05 [debug] Invoking downloader on 'https://rr3---sn-u15hn5-cc.googlevideo.com/videoplayback?expire=1787486311&ei=B4yKatPKIdq6zPsP9dzOiQM&ip=<REDACTED> &id=o-AGjSrhMVDDk3_jKqNHQfGsrY2oWejYirD11QpTDBIkrK&itag=140&source=youtube&requiressl=yes&xpc=EgVo2aDSNQ%3D%3D&cps=210&met=1787464711%2C&mh=TD&mm=31%2C29&mn=sn-u15hn5-cc%2Csn-5hnekn7z&ms=au%2Crdu&mv=m&mvi=3&pl=19&rms=au%2Cau&initcwndbps=3891250&bui=AR3QkAkDt1_g3LCZjMXIxkCVc8-W0tGMIM_6sBK3NGAHf4yPJIihO2KPezPDpD_afM1QFfB8P3Cxk9Oq&spc=KBGBcsMQiLFWnlI5uJk7Z82SosMcEvnZawKZsT26x_MoqDnZ46KjcPK-kA&vprv=1&svpuc=1&mime=audio%2Fmp4&rqh=1&gir=yes&clen=5018775&dur=310.056&lmt=1733642532609993&mt=1787464360&fvip=5&keepalive=yes&fexp=51565116&c=VISIONOS&txp=4532434&sparams=expire%2Cei%2Cip%2Cid%2Citag%2Csource%2Crequiressl%2Cxpc%2Cbui%2Cspc%2Cvprv%2Csvpuc%2Cmime%2Crqh%2Cgir%2Cclen%2Cdur%2Clmt&sig=AE0s2JYwRQIhALLl9LTWrc7G3jETDRTX60ADlPUOzrUg4fp0VdJcojeKAiBXlb97WXpBCCIXzmqyx8TMqP6Dt5PcM6eu8AhYFi-atA%3D%3D&lsparams=cps%2Cmet%2Cmh%2Cmm%2Cmn%2Cms%2Cmv%2Cmvi%2Cpl%2Crms%2Cinitcwndbps&lsig=APaTxxMwRQIhAIbAGUIA_MNMGaiw8vyLB-91zx2F4IWiqmaFGC4b7hBbAiAm2-OG5OjJ0CY1y4haN_bumVXGOfSky3M6Rmvc4oOkDQ%3D%3D' [dashsegments] Total fragments: 1 [download] Destination: /dev/shm/test-ytd/Βέβηλος _ Ακάθαρτοι συμμ. Ματούλα Ζαμάνη.m4a.f140.m4a [download] 100% of 4.79MiB in 00:00 [ffmpeg] Merging formats into "/dev/shm/test-ytd/Βέβηλος _ Ακάθαρτοι συμμ. Ματούλα Ζαμάνη.mp4" [debug] ffmpeg command line: ffmpeg -y -loglevel repeat+info -i 'file:/dev/shm/test-ytd/Βέβηλος _ Ακάθαρτοι συμμ. Ματούλα Ζαμάνη.f137.mp4' -i 'file:/dev/shm/test-ytd/Βέβηλος _ Ακάθαρτοι συμμ. Ματούλα Ζαμάνη.m4a.f140.m4a' -c copy -map 0:v:0 -map 1:a:0 'file:/dev/shm/test-ytd/Βέβηλος _ Ακάθαρτοι συμμ. Ματούλα Ζαμάνη.temp.mp4' Deleting original file /dev/shm/test-ytd/Βέβηλος _ Ακάθαρτοι συμμ. Ματούλα Ζαμάνη.f137.mp4 (pass -k to keep) Deleting original file /dev/shm/test-ytd/Βέβηλος _ Ακάθαρτοι συμμ. Ματούλα Ζαμάνη.m4a.f140.m4a (pass -k to keep) [ffmpeg] Adding thumbnail to "/dev/shm/test-ytd/Βέβηλος _ Ακάθαρτοι συμμ. Ματούλα Ζαμάνη.mp4" [debug] ffmpeg command line: ffmpeg -y -loglevel repeat+info -i 'file:/dev/shm/test-ytd/Βέβηλος _ Ακάθαρτοι συμμ. Ματούλα Ζαμάνη.mp4' -i 'file:/dev/shm/test-ytd/Βέβηλος _ Ακάθαρτοι συμμ. Ματούλα Ζαμάνη.jpg' -c copy -map 0 -map 1 -disposition:v:1 attached_pic 'file:/dev/shm/test-ytd/Βέβηλος _ Ακάθαρτοι συμμ. Ματούλα Ζαμάνη.temp.mp4'

Over the past three days, MSFN has undergone a comprehensive and costly system upgrade. This process involved critical updates to our server environment—including MySQL, MariaDB, and PHP—as well as upgrading the core forum platform to version 5. Immediately following the upgrade, we experienced a critical hard drive failure. This forced us to replace the drive entirely and perform a complete reinstallation of the system from scratch. Due to these unforeseen hardware complications, a substantial financial investment, and a database size of approximately 6 GB, we encountered several major technical challenges. Regrettably, due to these issues, a few recent posts have been lost. Consequently, the forum has been reopened while final adjustments, primarily regarding user interface layout and widgets, remain in progress. We sincerely appreciate your patience and understanding during this transition. Thank you.

Thanks @xper for all your work here to keep this place alive. ❤️

It cannot be completely disabled or removed. In version 151, the flag that disables AI in the address bar was removed, but you can disable it using the --disable-features=AiModeOmniboxEntryPoint Delete the files you extracted from the dwrite_xp_x86 folder in the webgl_hw_and_dwrite.zip archive.