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MDGx,

If you have a moment, please check out my latest post in the Autopatcher 98SE thread. I REALLY don't want to type all that again.

Anything you can think of regarding why the My Computer icon is the newer one in Display Properties but only the original 98SE default one appears on the desktop?

And how come 98SE2XP and the WMP 10 for 9x had those bad reactions when installing them after the Autopatcher? Didn't have that funky stuff happen before. Running now without 98SE2XP or the WMP 10 for 9x updates, having uninstalled them along with the WMP10 Fraunhoffer codec. Just using my Cyberlink mp3 PowerEncoder for now and afraid to try again until I have a clue why those error messages, mismatched WMP file versions, weird XP style toolbars, etc. happened. Powerprof.dll? Huh?

98SE2ME was fine, except for a rather strange install of my Turtle Beach USB Midi Cable. Windows needed to install the driver several times, seemingly losing it after the initial install as it needed to install it again on restart. Then when I went to test the midi using the provided Turtle Beach SoundCheck and driver check, Windows started installing it again and this time I needed to search all over for files it couldn't find on its own. One file was only found on the Windows Me cd! Apparently Windows 98SE doesn't come with the file but I put the Windows Me cd in as a last resort and there it was!

Following that, the midi port and software worked fine.

Oh, fine except for that My Computer icon thing. Three Explorer.exe files are on my system. Two of them are identical newer ones and an older one. One of the newer ones is in the Windows\System folder and the older one is in one of your backup folders. But somehow the icon from it is still on the desktop.

So far no IOS Errors. That seems to be a unique problem that only effects me. Still afraid every time I restart! Maybe I'll luck out this time.

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Does either of rpcrt4.dll from

5.0.2193.1 Win2000

5.1.2600.1106 WinXP

5.1.2600.2180 WinXP SP2

work in 98SE2ME have you tested?

rpcrt4.dll for 2000/XP [all editions] is completely different = Unicode and NTx core specific.
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Anything you can think of regarding why the My Computer icon is the newer one in Display Properties but only the original 98SE default one appears on the desktop?

And how come 98SE2XP and the WMP 10 for 9x had those bad reactions when installing them after the Autopatcher? Didn't have that funky stuff happen before. Running now without 98SE2XP or the WMP 10 for 9x updates, having uninstalled them along with the WMP10 Fraunhoffer codec. Just using my Cyberlink mp3 PowerEncoder for now and afraid to try again until I have a clue why those error messages, mismatched WMP file versions, weird XP style toolbars, etc. happened. Powerprof.dll? Huh?

98SE2ME was fine, except for a rather strange install of my Turtle Beach USB Midi Cable. Windows needed to install the driver several times, seemingly losing it after the initial install as it needed to install it again on restart. Then when I went to test the midi using the provided Turtle Beach SoundCheck and driver check, Windows started installing it again and this time I needed to search all over for files it couldn't find on its own. One file was only found on the Windows Me cd! Apparently Windows 98SE doesn't come with the file but I put the Windows Me cd in as a last resort and there it was!

Following that, the midi port and software worked fine.

Oh, fine except for that My Computer icon thing. Three Explorer.exe files are on my system. Two of them are identical newer ones and an older one. One of the newer ones is in the Windows\System folder and the older one is in one of your backup folders. But somehow the icon from it is still on the desktop.

So far no IOS Errors. That seems to be a unique problem that only effects me. Still afraid every time I restart! Maybe I'll luck out this time.

About 98SEMP10 + 98SE2XP:

Please install the new 98MP10 [unified 98SEMP10 + 98SE2XP]:

http://www.mdgx.com/wmp.htm#98MP10

98MP10 installs all files from 98SEMP10 + 98SE2XP.

No need to install 98SEMP10 or 98SE2XP anymore.

Therefore only 1 files set and only 1 backup set.

About 98SE2ME:

I never heard of such problems [Desktop icons].

I don't think 98SE2ME does anything to your icons.

Also if you have 3 instances of explorer.exe, it's not because of 98SE2ME.

98SE2ME option 6 installs 98SE SP2 [Gape] explorer.exe in %windir% and backs up yours as explorer.256 also in %windir%.

98SE2ME option 3 installs WinME explorer.exe and backs up your as %windir%\explorer.98A .

That's it.

About your sound card drivers:

Might be some of the files installed by 98SE2ME for USB/Firewire/WDM, because they change to WinME install engine which is slightly different.

But in the end, your drivers should be insrtalled properly.

Unfortunately I can't test this, I don't have such a sound card.

HTH

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Some news on the Explorer.exe front.

The file existed in the Windows folder as 4.72.3612.1700 Aug 20, 1999. It was also in the Windows\WIN98SE.9ME folder as the same version with a date of July 26, 2006, as well as in the C:\9!M folder with the July 26. 2005 version.

The old original version from the 98SE cd was Explorer.98. Explorer.256 was the same version and date as the newer ones.

Somehow the one in the Windows folder had the updated version number but the 98SE cd file date. The icon in Display Properties Effects tab showed the newer one but could not be applied.

First I tried System File Checker to extract the one in the C:\9!M folder to C:\WINDOWS. It said it did it but what it actually did was replace the one in the C:\9!M folder with the one in C:\WINDOWS and kept that one there too! So it still wasn't fixed.

I copied the newer one from the Windows\WIN98SE.9ME folder back into C:\9!M, burned to cdr and deleted the Explorer.256 and Explorer.98, and rebooted to Command Prompt Only. I copied the C:\9!M version into the C:\WINDOWS folder and rebooted.

All fixed! The old icon doesn't show up anywhere and the new one applies as system default.

I then installed the WinME theme and just applied the colors and icons to get the nicer looking stuff. But at least my system isn't confused now.

I took a plunge and uninstalled the Roland and Yamaha Midi, the Turtle Beach USB cable, QMAXII, and the M-Audio Revo 5.1 soundcard. I then installed my Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro. I want to see whether the MSDOS driver works with the Pro card like it does with the normal and Platinum Audigy 2 ZS. I was also displeased with how old Windows games that used midi had problems using the Roland or Yamaha software synths. They would have worked with the Microsoft default midi but for some reason the M-Audio drivers don't include that in the installation. So without my installing the soft synths I would have had no midi whatsoever. Plus no Sensaura in the 98 M-Audio driver.

Strange that the soft synths work fine with midi games on XP. Here, I had to keep playing around with turning Direct Sound on and off and adjusting latencies, etc. A pain in the neck and since the M-Audio card doesn't upsample anything I was getting horrid sound as they would play at 8000 kHZ rather than 44100. Or the game midi would cut off and I needed to restart the computer to get it back.

Midi music files played fine, just the games were tricky. Goodbye! Nice Soundfont midi and no hastles with the all included stuff from Creative. The card doesn't sound as nice with no effects as the Revo, but it offers nearly all the features it does on XP. So, fully functional audio without a ton of 3rd party additional software.

Amazingly 98SE survived the changes. I'll wait on applying the new 98MP10. Things work. Don't wanna break'em!

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Don't forget when you add the new WinME shell32.dll

to replace the shortcut arrows with the empty icon

This is WinME shell32.dll, not 98/98SE shell32.

To my knowledge WinME shell32 does not exhibit that bug.

That bug is specific strictly to 98/98SE shell32.dll updates 4.72.3812.600 + 4.72.3812.620:

http://www.mdgx.com/98-5.htm#PSBF

Therefore patching not necessary for WinME.

HTH

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I think IPROP.DLL from unofficial dcom is newer than the 1 from WinME
I'm not sure.

These are the ones I have [using getver.exe = http://lbrisar.htmlplanet.com/e_cmd32.html#getver]:

IPROP.DLL 4.0.1381.326 stamp 11-18-1999 96016 Bytes = from WinNT4 SP6a

IPROP.DLL 4.0.1381.4 stamp 6-8-2000 110592 Bytes = from WinME CD-ROM [identical with the 1 from Win98 SE CD-ROM]

IPROP.DLL 4.0.1381.6 stamp 8-20-1997 96016 Bytes = from DCOM98

If 326 is considered greater than 4 [as in 004] or than 6 [as in 006], you're right, 326 is newest. [?]

But if 6 [as in 600] is considered greater than 326, the 1 from official DCOM98 is newest. [?]

So which way is the right way?

Does anybody have any ideas how this actually works?

Thanks in advance.

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How do i install System Restore and all its components from my WinME cd

on my Win98SE2ME computer?

You don't.

To my knowledge this is not possible [yet].

Too many WinME system files dependencies.

And I'm sure if it can be done, the entire procedure will be posted here.

HTH

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These are the ones I have [using getver.exe = http://lbrisar.htmlplanet.com/e_cmd32.html#getver]:

IPROP.DLL 4.0.1381.326 stamp 11-18-1999 96016 Bytes = from WinNT4 SP6a

IPROP.DLL 4.0.1381.4 stamp 6-8-2000 110592 Bytes = from WinME CD-ROM [identical with the 1 from Win98 SE CD-ROM]

IPROP.DLL 4.0.1381.6 stamp 8-20-1997 96016 Bytes = from DCOM98

If 326 is considered greater than 4 [as in 004] or than 6 [as in 006], you're right, 326 is newest. [?]

But if 6 [as in 600] is considered greater than 326, the 1 from official DCOM98 is newest. [?]

So which way is the right way?

Does anybody have any ideas how this actually works?

The version number is stored as four 16-bit words, each part of it may have value 0 to 65535. So the lowest version number is 0.0.0.0 and the highest 65535.65535.65535.65535.

Some more information from MSDN:

VS_FIXEDFILEINFO Structure

File Version Comparisons

Codeguru: Versioning in Windows

Petr

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Hu$tle,

Sheesh, I just typed a whole post and lost it when IE couldn't link properly.

http://www.geocities.com/fredledingo/sysrestore.htm

That's the link to a current script based 98 system backup project. That may do the trick for you.

Alternative include just sticking with scanreg /restore from a command prompt only startup. You can edit scanreg.ini to include some additional system configuration files to those it includes.

PowerQuest SecondChance is what SystemRestore was based upon. If you can find PowerQuest SystemTools 2005 (or 2006, I forget) then that has the last version made.

Symantec GoBack is a currently sold product that also can restore even if you can't even boot to dos. Don't do any funky partition stuff with it though, as it changes the boot sector to do its magic.

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Can we get a Games only option to 98SE2ME

please also about the help files and chm files installed by 98SE2ME

can you have them all sent to the help folder with all the rest of the chm/hlp

files my system is very organize.The 98SE2ME chm needs to be updated also it should be

installed to the help folder even after installation of the 98SE2ME folder.

Also USB from option 1/2/8 does not work properly

i have to install NUSB. It did used to work once upon a time but not now

you might have to analyze Maximus Decim Native USB ver.2.3

and figure out the culprit of things.

Can we get a icon change on the start button please the old one looks dry.

Other than that its running lovely

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MDGx, I wanted to let you know that for some crazy reason the McAfee SiteAdvisor Plus flags your mdgx.com website. To go there or download anything from there I need to disable SiteAdvisor's Protected Mode and also respond to downloads in their warning box about your site that it's okay to allow the download.

No problem when using Windows 98 since their SiteAdvisor 98 plugin is buggy and will crash Internet Explorer if installed. But of course that's a crappy work-around (use 98 and don't install SiteAdvisor)!

Anyway to communicate with McAfee to let them know your's is a good site, not dangerous at all?

Maybe they're reacting to some of the 3rd party sites linked to from your site. Perhaps if any link on a site leads to where even a popup exists then SiteAdvisor flags the whole site as dangerous. Seems a bit paranoid if you ask me.

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