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I guess the program files thing is tough for MDGx to conclusively fix until we test it in use, this, since he doesn't have a 9x installed for testing. Yes, the Pinball and MSN Games installation is still broken but this is not something to reinstall Windows over. If you want Pinball use the guide on mdgx.com to install it from the same Windows Me cd we get 98SE2ME to use. If you want MSN games then go on the net to play them. They were just shortcuts anyway. There's nothing else broken by this bug so there's no need to worry about a Windows installation. The error message isn't annoying as it only appears when the shortcuts leading to nowhere appear on the first boot following 98SE2ME use.

Here are the values: 28700 "C:\PROGRA~1" 28701 "C:\Program Files" 28702 "C:\PROGRA~1" The latest 98SE2ME does also include the old problem of the autoexec.bat inserted lines accessing the WInME cdrom remaining. I checked that and was surprised to see them there after this problem had disappeared long ago. I just deleted the lines and of course that's fine, but I wonder why they stayed in the first place. In a totally unrelated direction: Has anyone else noticed that even using only the official Microsoft Security Updates CD and Window Update, neither of which I use of course but I did it recently just for a test, all the nice tutorials in the Discovering Windows, Welcome To Windows program break? They break with any set of unofficial updaters (Gape, Soporific, Maximus-Decim, etc) as well, which was the reason for my testing the official methods. The Mouse and Windows Desktop lessons all get javascript errors, and none of the "ShowMe" videos in the What's New section, as well as in a seperately installed similar Microsoft tutorial cd (Start's Here or something, can't remember right now) play. They'll play on a fresh install or if only IE 6SP1 is installed, but when one goes through the updates something in all that stuff breaks the things. Interestingly no other javascript related things, whether web pages or software videos, break. Only those Microsoft tutorials. I apologize in advance for the unrelated info, but this appears to be the thread most of the super dudes still read first if at all. You guys will know I already tried Windows Scripting 5.6, 5.7, reinstalling and updating both Microsoft Java and Sun (to 6 update 7), the MDAC, msxml stuff, Windows Help updates, IE Cumulatives, etc. Flash is 9.47, Shockwave 10.0.0.23 and all working if that may be in some weird way related.

That C:\Program error is the one that effects the installation of the msn games and pinball. The files aren't installed for them and so the links in the start menu, when getting updated on reboot after installing 98SE2ME, cause that error message since the links can't complete with the files not being found. The error where the autoexec.bat isn't changed back is one that was fixed long ago. In way older 98SE2ME versions I used to have to delete those lines calling for those file replacements from the Windows ME cd during startup. But it's been a long time. I'm surprised to see it reoccur. I don't think it's related to the msn game pinball C:\Program error. And it didn't happen on my machines with recent versions of 98SE2ME. Those file replacements occurred perfectly and the autoexec.bat was restored to not containing the commands perfectly. The only bug on my machine using Option 2 was the msn games, pinball C:\Program glitch.

I don't think the older versions are hosted anywhere. However I also don't think there is anything vital that the error prevents installing. Pinball is available separately or can be manually extracted and those msn games, if still around, can be accessed from the net, downloaded, etc, without handy links like Windows Me had. Still, it would be nice if another version would come down the pike that either eliminates the error or removes the installation of those games if it can't be fixed up properly. Maybe MDGx is waiting until something more important needs to be changed or is otherwise busy. I haven't seen updates from him in awhile. Hope all is well with him.

I got pinball by following the manual instructions on the mdgx.com site, except for extracting it to C:\Program Files\Pinball instead of C:\MSPINBALL. The help files were already in C:\WINDOWS\HELP. I tried running 98SE2ME Option 6. It went through the motions of extracting stuff and again defining the program folder as C:\PROGRA~1. But the dos prompt simply closed and Windows did not reboot. That's when I went ahead and extracted the pinball game manually. I played it with full sound and music, accessed its help files, etc. Then I restarted Windows and this time there was no error message about C:\Program not existing. I think the batch file simply gave up when it couldn't do its thing this time and just had exited. No idea why the window closed since I don't have close on exit checked on any pifs, but maybe that's either a crash that happened or it thought it had finished and that's how you set it up. No reboot though. And nothing was copied to the any GameZone or Pinball folder, neither of which was created. Well, I have Pinball anyway, which is what I really wanted from Option 6 anyway. I have the Plus98! pack installed which has that Spider Solitaire as part of it. That DID install as part of Option 2, since it installs elsewhere than the Program Files folder which is problematic in 98SE2ME at the moment, at least for me on this setup. I just hope nothing important was otherwise not installed. It seems that all the rest of what comes with Option 2 is here, I think.

Hi again! We know that the shortcuts to the Pinball and GameZone games had to be fiddled with by renaming the start menu shortcut's target files to all capital letter .EXE's. That has been the case for a long time, and was a simple fix. Now however, the problem is worse. Something that has been changed in the way the C:\Program Files is entered by the 98SE2ME option 6 batch installer makes it not find C:\Program Files at all and the games themselves aren't installed. So I wind up with all the shortcuts in the start menu but no actual Pinball or GameZone folders or files in the Program Files folder. The new script prints an additional step which is, I suppose, not working enough to set things up properly. It states that PD=C:\PROGRA~1. I guess that's program directory= C:\"Program Files" in MS-DOS language. It looks right, but it's not working here. (It might be PF= instead of PD, I forget.) When Windows boots up the first time after the option 2 install a message box appears stating that C:\Program cannot be found. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling 982ME (just the program) then rerunning option 2 with the same exact results. MDGx, I'm using VMware Workstation, but the VMware Player (free) now can also create new virtual disks and setup machines from its GUI. VirtualBox is useless for 98 unless on a newer PC than I have that would have hardware virtualization. Otherwise 98 runs too slowly on VirtualBox and also has some buggyness. But VMware has always supported 9x guests. You could test any of these things using that. I recall you mentioning that you were looking into installing VirtualPC for this. I ran 98 briefly on that but found its support for virtual hardware limited (no usb, etc) and some buggyness (crashes), whereas VMware is almost like running 98SE on a real computer. You only need the VMWare tools (for video drivers) and the Creative SBPCI128 WDM driver update and the 4 and 8MB EAPCI files for quite good audio support. You can get the tools by downloading the full Workstation trial, set the whole thing up using the more complete Workstation GUI, and then open the setup machine from the VMware Player that is installed along with it. When the trial runs out, you still have a free working VMware Player to use. I know you were trying to fix up the shortcuts to the games but without having a test machine stuff like this can easily occur. Thanks for continuing your involvement and interest in things 9x, your website, and the forum long after many (including those remaining) are really using other OS's like Linux and Windows XP, Windows 7, etc. I'd still have a real 98SE install if I still were using all IDE drives. You'll recall that activating the SATA controller at all on my hardware eventually drives any 9x install to dust. I never did find a working fix for that stupid eventual IOS Windows loading error that would bork everything.

Yep, it works great now! I experienced the RPConfig not responding the first couple of times I tried activating a theme. I had to end the RPConfig task. Then, I was messing around with the RPConfig effects tab and unchecked the show windows while dragging. That worked fine and the next time I applied a theme it applied it perfectly. Got in on Win7 big toolbar now. It switches Themes fine without freezing but I really don't know whether it had to do with my switching off the show windows while dragging or not. I'm not messing with it since it works. Thanks again for the fix and all the great software. I know I'm at least using that network icon as well because auto-patcher installs that.

Thanks so much for the fix Tihiy! I'll try the new version out as soon as Rapidshare lets me get the file. It seems its servers are too busy today. It must be the weekend.

Okay here it is, but I think you need to save it back to a .wlg file and use Dr. Watson to make sense of it. I've since reverted the 98SE2ME Option 3 Me Explorer Shell back to 98SE since having it didn't help. revcrash.txt

Here's a Dr Watson log attached. The simple view suggests that mmtask, a multimedia task mmtask.tsk, should be dealt with if my taskbar is behaving strangely. I tried eliminating the Roland icon and the Multimedia Volume Control icon but that had no effect. It also states that Revolutions Pack has altered system files, namely the RP8.dll. No kidding. The advanced view just showed the running stuff which doesn't seem to contain anything strange, if that mmtask.tsk system hook isn't strange that is. It that normal? Hmm, it seems I'm not permitted to upload that kind of file. How else do we upload a revcrash.wlg file? Do I somehow convert it to a particular text format?

Uggh. No that wasn't it. AfterDark all gone and still Revolutions Pack crashes explorer.exe. Now I haven't a clue what it is. I'll check out Dr. Watson tomorrow and see if it logs anything interesting.

If it's definitely a 16 bit driver that you see causing the crash then absolutely it is the vxd used by that AfterDark screensaver program. The thing is like a terminate and stay ready driver that loads up from win.ini, has references in system.ini, and then calls its system tray icon from the startup folder. Just the tray icon wouldn't work. This thing needs a bunch of originally Windows 3.1 things that were updated so that although designed for Windows 95, really at its core is a Windows 3.1 base. A contributor developed an update that fixed it up to run on Windows XP and also runs on 9x, and also an installer for the later 32 bit AfterDark 4 that he called AfterDark 4.1+. MDGx packaged up the files I sent him at one time for others to use, and the AfterDark 3.0XP contributer (ThyPenticle)still later repacked the thing with exe installers that included a large set of screensavers for it. I still use the older method as it keeps the savers in separate categories in the panel and I can install some not included stuff like the Disney savers, etc. I might try just installing the version 4.1+, as that's mostly 32 bit software. On XP the older savers won't work on version 4 but on 9x they do, so I can still use the older modules. Let's see what happens when I uninstall AfterDark. Heh, just uninstalling the thing has the potential of destroying things (never tried it on 9x, only on XP where system files are protected).

Sadly the installation of 98SE2ME Option 3, although that works perfectly and I'm getting the snazzier Windows Me themed stuff, had no effect on the explorer.exe crash when Revolution Pack is present. As an aside, I reinstalled KernelEx and it's amazing how much stuff I've been able to upgrade that works great! Hope that the printing problem in Firefox 6 as well as the latest Java problem it has in Firefox (works fine in Internet Explorer) get solved. I've upgraded Firefox, Thunderbird, Flash, Java, go-oo.org all to the latest versions. I know there's got to be something running here or some file mis-match to upset Revolution Pack. I don't know how to find out which of the thousands of system files or programs is the bottleneck. Explorer looks like it crashes before anything is loaded into the system tray if that helps at all.

EXPLORER caused an invalid page fault in module RP8.DLL at 016f:bf9b676f. EAX=0000c02a CS=016f EIP=bf9b676f EFLGS=00010246 EBX=0000c02a SS=0177 ESP=00d2fb50 EBP=00d2fb58 ECX=00000000 DS=0177 ESI=00000000 FS=2f87 EDX=00002074 ES=0177 EDI=8353a1d0 GS=2f17 Bytes at CS:EIP: 8b 17 85 d2 76 10 8d 77 08 66 39 06 74 0e 41 83 Stack dump: 00d2fb7c 00000000 00d2fb74 bf9b69d9 829938cc 0000c02a 00d2fb7c 00008be2 00d2fbbe 00d2fb8c bff7363b 000208cc 0000c02a 8bbc2f9f 00000177 00dfba0 That's from the details section of the Windows Explorer.exe will now be closed box. Since I haven't applied a theme yet, on first run after using Taskmgr to run explorer.exe and systray.exe a few of my systray icons show up as the taskbar reappears but the ones that don't show. according to task manager, aren't even running. If I apply a theme... oh well I took too long because vmwareservice crashed and I had to shutdown before even that wouldn't let me. But I think it was a similar crash in RP8.dll that happens if I apply a theme. Again, the XP theme will apply and after reboot be there (but explorer.exe crashes the same way and crashes again if I restart explorer.exe). And the Win7 themes, although changing things to that theme, don't allow continuing or even allow ctrl-alt-insert to bring up the task manager and I have to reset VMware instead. Does that help?

Okay! I'll go back in and install it again, this time taking note of what the details say in Windows's explorer.exe will now be closed message. I'll post back with the information. Something must be awry in this setup since no one else appears to have reported similar.

I've been using 98SE in VMware and was inspired to check out Revolution Pack 9.6.5 by viewing the youtube techsnap 10 years later videos. There are problems as explorer.exe crashes on startup. I can ctrl-alt-insert (VMware's way of ctrl-alt-delete) and run explorer.exe and systray.exe to get the desktop up and functional. It seems however, that most of my startup processes and systray icons and programs aren't able to startup. The ones not running from the systray are openofficetraystarter, ClamWin, ClamSentinel, the Roland VSC-MP1 tray icon and the afterdarktraystarter. I also don't see the rest of the usual startup processes in the ctrl-alt-delete task manager panel running, with only the Roland VSC-MP1 adding itself after running systray.exe. I'm wondering whether the 16 bit calls made by the AfterDark Screensaver stuff is the chief culprit in this or if it is something else that is wrong. I've tried with and without KernelEx installed and that hasn't made a difference. The system was fully updated with the Gape latest Service Pack, the Maximus-Decim Internet Explorer and MDAC packs, fully autopatched by AutoPatcher, 98SE2ME option 2, and 98MP10. I've attempted experiments of restoring the original explorer.exe, user.exe and user32.dll (with system file checker) and that didn't fix, so I've applied EXPLOR98.exe and the latest unofficial 891711 updates to restore the 256 icon colors and the patched user stuff and actually like those 98SE versions better than the 98SE2ME versions as I get the Windows shutdown bitmaps again. Installing RevolutionPack before or after any combination of these files still results in the explorer.exe crash and processes not starting up problems. The Windows 7 skin crashes that rev8.dll and the system is then totally unresponsive, and the XP skin does apply but the same problem results on startup with the additional problem that restarting explorer.exe DOES NOT work as it immediately crashes and all I can do is use VMware to end the machine, reboot into safe mode, and uninstall Revolution Pack. So any skin does not allow explorer.exe to be manually restarted, but using the default 98SE skin allows use of the computer but without my startup processes and the rest of the usual stuff running in the background. I suppose I could try installing 98SE2ME option 3 (the Windows Me explorer shell). That's something I've never played with in all the years so it could be interesting anyway. But I'm still not sure whether that alleviates the problems with stuff that (perhaps?) Revolution Pack might not be compatible with, like the ClamAV stuff and the ancient AfterDark Screensaver 3.2XP packages. All the GDIPlus and ole update things have already been applied through those service packs and autopatcher updates. The dibeng.dll is the version installed by RevolutionPack and the one it replaced that was from 98SE2ME is gone. Not sure why it's not working. Uninstalling RevolutionsPack restores everything to working order, so at least that works nicely so I can continue to experiment if there are any suggestions I might try.

MDGx, I think the iso you mean is the sb_install.iso I had on filefront until they deleted it due to inactivity. The OP apparently got hold of it since he added some of the files and inf stuff to his 1st post and thanked me. I am currently uploading it again to filefront. I think it will be able to be accessed once done from my file page there: http://hosted.filefront.com/dahveed3/ Since they remove it automatically and you have offered to host stuff, I hope you can get it from there and offer it from your site on a more permanent basis. As I've said, it's the install cd included in the retail Creative SB0100 box. You may want to add to your description that it, by default, installs WDM drivers on 98SE and Me. If one wants it to install the VXD drivers, and thereby include the full Creative MS-DOS driver in DOS and Windows, it needs to be copied to the hard drive and the following change needs to be made: Right click on the/Audio\/english/Setup/AUDIO.INI file, choose Properties, and uncheck Read Only. Open AUDIO.INI in notepad and change the following: [Drivers] 98SEWDM = 1 to 98SEWDM = 0 MEWDM = 1 to MEWDM = 0 Save and Close Notepad, then right click it and in Properties check Read Only again. Then to install run /Ctrun/Ctrun.exe but if that doesn't startup properly then run /Audio/English/Setup/Setup.exe Note that since this retail SB0100 did not come with a LiveDrive, Creative did not include Remote Center on the cd at all so even though the driver probably contains the files there is no software provided for it. But it does contain a full set of LiveWare that is more up to date on software and drivers than the older cd's and web releases ever contained for the VXD setup of things. Users should download the latest PlayCenter package from the Creative Download Legacy site and upgrade the version of PlayCenter the cd installs. That's what I used to do. They should also go into Control Panel - Multimedia Properties, and in the Audio Codecs section choose the Creative ctmp3 codec and in Properties choose not to use that codec in this profile. That way it won't interfere with the Windows Media Player mp3 codec and cause system freezes such as when running Themes and Windows Startup sounds. The old fix was to delete or rename the codec itself but this works just as well and doesn't mess up the registry in the process. That torrent never seemed to be able to work for some reason but hopefully you can get the iso from filefront once it is finished uploading.

T.N.G.O.G, It's likely the WDM Audio and USB Windows Updates. Check out the big list of 98SE updates at mdgx.com. He has direct links to them following the descriptions, so sure you can install them yourself. TurtleBeach and Phillips used to pack them in their own installers for users to install before installing their WDM soundcard drivers. Creative cd's used to include them and install them automatically as part of their installation routine. The VXD style audio drivers didn't need the updates but the WDM's did in order for the cards to work properly.

Perhaps FileFront was having problems when you tried. I just started a download of it and it was going fine. Obviously, I can't control when they have server problems. But it appears to be working fine, at least at this time. I really hope this cd will be useful for those that want to use this soundcard on Windows 9x/Me. On 2000 I'd recommend the later versions based on the 252 drivers and the WDM's on this cd and the software were really 9x oriented and not the greatest. Beautiful VXD's for 9x/Me though. Don't forget to not run the cd, but to do it from a folder on the hard drive and change the Audio/english/drivers Audio.ini (or wherever that thing is) to make it install the VXD's on 98SE and Me rather than the default WDM's. Just change the value from 1 to 0 for that line in AUDIO.ini and it'll do that. Going from WDM to VXD can wreck the whole Windows installation, and/or the sound stack since the WDM's add a bunch of files that will continue to try to load (and fail, hopefully) even when switching to VXD's afterwards. Install VXD's the first time and you won't need to mess with anything.

December 2007 is still the latest. I would toggle off the Flash, Shockwave, and Sun Java installations and install the latest Flash and Java 6 from Adobe and Sun, and get Shockwave 10.2.0.023 from filehippo.com and install that one. The Shockwave in the Auto=Patcher is a 10.3 variety that didn't work properly and the 11 series also doesn't work. You can consult the sticky thread for the latest 98SE2ME, 98MP10. There are also further updates there that are newer than those in Auto-Patcher. The Maximus-Decim Internet Explorer Cumulative pack has just been updated so that should take care of that part. I haven't installed it yet because I have ZoneAlarm and heard about connection problems with anything over the 4.5 series once the newer Internet Explorer Cumulative update is installed. I just have to get in the mood to uninstall ZoneAlarm and install the older version before I update Internet Explorer to anything past what's in Auto-Patcher. Don't worry about what WindowsUpdate says after running AutoPatcher. Everything that shows up has a modified, working better version installed by Auto-Patcher instead of the ones on WindowsUpdate. Installing the WindowsUpdate crappy versions will just replace the newer, better system files with the buggy old stuff. Don't worry. December 2007 is pretty up to date. I run the Maximus-Decim MDAC pack (download the newer version from the forum), as that includes some stuff not included in the Microsoft MDAC package included in Auto-Patcher. You can run it after Auto-Patcher and it'll just install what's missing. I do the Maximus-Decim USB pack after installing 98SE2ME. Then I can finally install my printer, scanner and joysticks. If you already have, then just unplug them before running the USB pack so it can replace drivers without interference. 98SE2ME installs the Me USB stack and Maximus-Decim updates and adds to the USB. Can mess up if devices are active. If you install 98SE2ME again (to get the latest updates), unplug again and then reinstall Maximus-Decim USB after 98SE2ME. Contrary to the current thought, I still don't mix 98SE update packs. Choose either Auto-Patcher (which will really give you just about everything) or Gape's pack, or Maximus-Decim's pack. Safest way. Edit - Notice I changed where to download Shockwave 10.2.0.023 to filehippo.com. The other place I first mentioned didn't have it. Adobe seems to be pushing only the really old Shockwave 8 versions for systems not compatible with Shockwave 11. And they offer no links to the last one that really worked properly on 9x, the 10.2.0.023. No need for older versions, and if one of the older ones get installed by some software I uninstall Shockwave and reinstall this 10.2.0.023. It's really 10.2.023 but filehippo just added a zero on their web page I think. 10.2.024 or 10.3 don't work either. Those are where they broke things for 9x.

http://hosted.filefront.com/dahveed3/ Okay, that's the FileFront download site for the iso. Get it and let me know if it succeeds at making this whole SBLive 5.1 on Windows 98SE easier. That's the point of my going through all this. Remember that the WDM driver installed if you just run the cd really is awful! You've got to copy the cd to a folder on your hard drive, adjust AUDIO.INI to change the lines for installing WDM to 98SE and ME from 1 to 0 (right click, properties, uncheck read only then check it again when you're done). Then run setup from the folder.

I've used OpenSUSE, Debian, Mandriva, Ubuntu, and Kubuntu and can say that the overwhelming favorite is Debian Lenny (the testing version of Debian). Software gets frequently upgraded to newer versions shortly after upstream releases it and it goes through the phase in Debian Unstable where they ensure it works and plays well with the rest of Debian. As easy as any other distro if using aptitude as the package manager and use it to install the desktop, kde-desktop, and gnome-desktop tasks after the standard installation is done and logged in. Then just add other things as one learns what one wants/needs for his/her software. Doesn't have as many distro customizations and administrative GUI additions but that's actually better. There's less to break down and the Debian specific administrative tools are easy to learn and simple to use. Works just fine with KDE or Gnome administrative tools for those tasks that a user likes to see a GUI tool for. Between upstream and Debian if a piece of software can be made to work stable, it is. If not, in most cases, Debian doesn't release it into testing. So we'll wait longer for KDE 4 and such. Big deal. Apparently they got KTorrent and some other stuff built for KDE 4 working recently because I opened KTorrent today and noticed it had the KDE 4 style and icons. But the point is that we don't get stuck with experimental stuff that other distros tend to force on the user before they're really ready. And if we want it, we have an experimental repo. So we have the freedom to break our systems if we so desire but it doesn't get released in a broken state (ie: Ubuntu, which often does, but they do fix it up eventually). Plus, if it's free software we are likely to find it right in our repo. And it's not that difficult to access some non-free stuff if needed though either the Debian maintained contrib and non-free repo or places like debian-multimedia.org and upstream sites specifically. It also seems less likely to ever need huge full system upgrades, especially if one uses the testing distro, that sometimes go badly and need a format and fresh install, unlike the time-based distro releases. We just full-upgrade every day and get the latest versions of stuff. No 6 month wait.

http://www.mininova.org/tor/1707836 I've made an iso of my SB0100 Creative Installation cd of LiveWare 3.0, made a torrent and am seeding it. The above site hosts torrents free, and I'm using a free tracker for it. It's gonna be slow since my ISP (Comcast) has slow upload speeds. Hopefully those who want it will download and seed as well, and I hope this is working as well. New to this uploading torrent thing and just hope I did it all correctly. If someone gets it and wants to make rar files and upload it to some hosting site it would be nice for others too. I did it this way because it looked easy and it's free for me. The instructions I put on that web page show that if one wants the VXD drivers with the SB16 emulation you need to copy the cd to the hard drive, change the AUDIO.INI file from 98SE/ME WDM 1 to 98SE/ME WDM 0. Gotta uncheck read only before doing that and then make it read only again. Then run setup from the hard drive (or make a cd with it that way, whichever is preferred.) I used to do the install right from the hard drive and it worked fine. The older LiveWare 3.0 cd's didn't include the inf for the SB0100. This cd came with the SB0100. The weakness is that I don't think it has the remote center software for the LiveDrive if one uses that. It was a Creative retail package produced as a value soundcard without the LiveDrive after the Audigy took over as the number one product from Creative. So they just left the LiveDrive stuff out. Edit - I don't know if anyone's been trying to get the download as my torrent client hasn't shown any activity. I noticed that sometimes the tracker information showed problems confirming the tracker as working. So I added some more free trackers to the list in my torrent client and now it appears to be reporting them as working. I used the list on a how-to webpage: http://open.tracker.thepiratebay.org/announce http://www.torrent-downloads.to:2710/announce http://denis.stalker.h3q.com:6969/announce http://www.sumotracker.com/announce http://pirates.sumotracker.com/announce Once I added that list and clicked update tracker, KTorrent picked the denis.stalker one and reported it as working. Hopefully I'll start to see activity now, before mininova.org removes the torrent due to non-activity. I think you need to add those trackers into your torrent client in order to use them, as the torrent itself just lists the first one there on the list that hadn't appeared to work consistently. Edit - Okay, someone at the Creative SoundBlaster Forum suggesting trying to upload to FileFront. I joined up and am currently uploading the iso. I have no idea if they will permit it to finish as a cdrom sized iso is pretty big. I'll let you know when it's there. Somehow the torrent connection isn't working the way I set it all up. (He tried to download it.) I hope using FileFront works.

http://www.mininova.org/tor/1707836 I created an iso from the cd, created a torrent file, and uploaded the torrent file to the above website. Since my ISP (Comcast) upload speed is just a home user type speed, this will be really slow to download unless lots of folks download and seed it. I'll keep my computer turned on and seeding for a few days now. Maybe someone can get the file and post it as Rar archives? I did it this way since it was all free of charge. But at least it is there so please, if interested, go ahead and get it with a Torrent client like uTorrent, BitTorrent, whatever. I'm using KTorrent on Debian Linux to upload it. If there's a better free way then let me know. If I get a power failure, brownout, then I'll turn on the computer again and continue seeding. Unless of course I'm not home at the time. If not I'll just turn the computer back on and seeding the torrent as soon as I get home again. Edit - http://www.msfn.org/board/Creative-SBLive-...30-t122191.html I put some trackers to add on my other thread there in case the one I used in the torrent isn't working. The denis.stalker one is one that my torrent client reported to work. So far, no activity as far as folks downloading the iso has been showing up in my seeding torrent client. I hope someone will at least attempt to download this, at least to see if I set this thing up properly. But be sure to add the other trackers to the list as I don't think the one in the torrent is working all the time. Edit - I'm trying to upload the iso to FileFront. Hope it works. I'll keep you posted. Seems the torrent download couldn't make a connection for a poster at the Creative SoundBlaster forum who tried it. He suggested FileFront. Edit - Okay, it's been uploaded: DELETED (file no longer there) Go ahead and check it out. Edit - Got an email warning me of the file being removed because of inactivity. I just let it slide. It was up for a while so I hope anyone interested got it.

Read the Readme. He explains everything. Many of the items you talk about wreak havoc on 98SE if used. I'm pretty certain no one cares if anyone decides to use 98SE2ME or not, so threaten to spread the word and have everyone boycott the project. No one will care. This is a free offering from an enthusiast that for years has provided amazing things for the community of Windows users. No one will be upset if you go it on your own rather than using the package. MDGx even provides a manual approach like that in the Readme. Experiment away. It's your system. As has been explained many times and also in the Readme, a 98SE system that doesn't have the latest available versions of things like Internet Explorer, Direct X, Windows Media Player, etc, cannot be made secure or bug fixed as older versions have not gotten any updates for ages.