GreenMachine Posted October 8, 2003 Posted October 8, 2003 I bet they are missing from the default profile: C:\Documents and Settings\Default User\Application Data\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch. I don't know why they are never initialized. I delete everything from there, and then copy the ones I like, so I cannot say if mine were initialized, unless the initialization takes place when you selcet to show the toolbar.If you are copying over the NTUSER.DAT, it would be a good time to do any housekeeping in the default profile. (C:\Documents and Settings\Default User\)If you come up with an easy way to copy the profile and NTUSER.DAT, do tell.
SiR_CharLZ Posted October 8, 2003 Posted October 8, 2003 There is this method but is not geared (I dont think) for the scripted CD:http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?...kb;EN-US;305709I tried this on an XP box and every setting was perfect including the quick launch.
blinkdt Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 As far as explicit instructions, I cannot help you there until I understand what you final objective is (what's wrong with the MS default profile?...)GreenMachine, thanks again, the instructions you provided above are plenty explicit. My programming skills are minimal, but I'm pretty good at connecting the dots (like implementing AaronXP's excellent hotfix solution and WebMedic/Devil's app install). As for the MS default profile, it's good, but one size never fits all I would think you can copy it over from GuiRunOnce, the only inconvenience being that the settings will be applied to new users, but not the Administrator, as that account has already been initialized.I'll give this a go during the next week or so. From what I have read in this forum, I should probably jettison the default Administrator account following setup via rename/ultra-password, and let the first user who signs in take administrative responsibility and run the show.I'll also work with un4given1's suggestion and your own preference--like mine, me thinks--for the pure registry hack route. One of these two methods surely will do the trick.Unless.... Sir CharLZ, your suggestion as related in MS 305709 appears too good to be true, and therefore will doubtless work flawlessly. Nice find Let it be said: People are basically Good, and you guys (and gals?) are the proof
starbuck777 Posted November 10, 2003 Posted November 10, 2003 You will find that this method works just as well, and keeps with the consistency of all of your other reg hacks.<SNIP>BTW: the reason for the two values in the same key is because one works with SP1 and the other one works with preSP1. It does not hurt to have both. The second value is all that is needed for SP1 and above. They changed the key in SP1./Pedantic mode ONThe correct key for XP without SP1 is "Taskbar" -NOT- "Default Taskbar"Default Taskbar is a valid key, but comes from HKLM, not HKLU./Pedantic mode OFFWindows Registry Editor Version 5.00[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Streams\Desktop]"Taskbar"=hex:0c,00,00,00,08,00,00,00,02,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,b0,e2,2b,\ d8,64,57,d0,11,a9,6e,00,c0,4f,d7,05,a2,22,00,1c,00,0a,01,00,00,1a,00,00,00,\ 01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,4c,00,00,00,01,14,02,00,00,\ 00,00,00,c0,00,00,00,00,00,00,46,83,00,00,00,10,00,00,00,a0,b0,48,5e,89,8d,\ bd,01,00,d8,9e,e4,2a,8d,bd,01,00,45,fe,5e,89,8d,bd,01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\ 00,01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,13,01,14,00,1f,0f,e0,4f,\ d0,20,ea,3a,69,10,a2,d8,08,00,2b,30,30,9d,19,00,23,44,3a,5c,00,00,00,00,00,\ 00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,cd,97,15,00,31,00,00,00,00,00,af,24,5c,\ 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00,00,e0,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,16,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,16,00,00,\ 00,00,00,00,00,01,00,00,00"TaskbarWinXP"=hex:0c,00,00,00,08,00,00,00,02,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,b0,e2,2b,\ d8,64,57,d0,11,a9,6e,00,c0,4f,d7,05,a2,22,00,1c,00,0a,01,00,00,1a,00,00,00,\ 01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,4c,00,00,00,01,14,02,00,00,\ 00,00,00,c0,00,00,00,00,00,00,46,83,00,00,00,10,00,00,00,a0,b0,48,5e,89,8d,\ bd,01,00,d8,9e,e4,2a,8d,bd,01,00,45,fe,5e,89,8d,bd,01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\ 00,01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,13,01,14,00,1f,0f,e0,4f,\ d0,20,ea,3a,69,10,a2,d8,08,00,2b,30,30,9d,19,00,23,44,3a,5c,00,00,00,00,00,\ 00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,cd,97,15,00,31,00,00,00,00,00,af,24,5c,\ b9,10,80,57,69,6e,6e,74,00,00,20,00,31,00,00,00,00,00,af,24,a3,b9,10,00,50,\ 72,6f,66,69,6c,65,73,00,50,52,4f,46,49,4c,45,53,00,19,00,31,00,00,00,00,00,\ c1,24,08,92,10,00,69,65,35,30,30,2e,30,30,30,00,00,28,00,31,00,00,00,00,00,\ c1,24,08,92,10,00,41,70,70,6c,69,63,61,74,69,6f,6e,20,44,61,74,61,00,41,50,\ 50,4c,49,43,7e,31,00,21,00,31,00,00,00,00,00,c5,22,9d,91,10,00,4d,69,63,72,\ 6f,73,6f,66,74,00,4d,49,43,52,4f,53,7e,31,00,29,00,31,00,00,00,00,00,d3,22,\ 32,a6,10,00,49,6e,74,65,72,6e,65,74,20,45,78,70,6c,6f,72,65,72,00,49,4e,54,\ 45,52,4e,7e,31,00,24,00,31,00,00,00,00,00,db,22,76,ba,10,00,51,75,69,63,6b,\ 20,4c,61,75,6e,63,68,00,51,55,49,43,4b,4c,7e,31,00,00,00,8d,00,00,00,1c,00,\ 00,00,01,00,00,00,1c,00,00,00,36,00,00,00,0d,f0,ad,ba,8c,00,00,00,1a,00,00,\ 00,03,00,00,00,e7,18,2d,23,10,00,00,00,49,45,35,30,30,5f,58,31,43,00,43,3a,\ 5c,57,49,4e,4e,54,5c,50,72,6f,66,69,6c,65,73,5c,49,45,35,30,30,2e,30,30,30,\ 5c,41,70,70,6c,69,63,61,74,69,6f,6e,20,44,61,74,61,5c,4d,69,63,72,6f,73,6f,\ 66,74,5c,49,6e,74,65,72,6e,65,74,20,45,78,70,6c,6f,72,65,72,5c,51,75,69,63,\ 6b,20,4c,61,75,6e,63,68,00,00,10,00,00,00,05,00,00,a0,1a,00,00,00,a3,00,00,\ 00,00,00,00,00,08,00,00,00,02,00,00,00,cc,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,03,00,00,00,\ 4a,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,40,00,32,00,e6,01,00,00,c4,24,15,9f,20,00,4c,61,75,\ 6e,63,68,20,49,6e,74,65,72,6e,65,74,20,45,78,70,6c,6f,72,65,72,20,42,72,6f,\ 77,73,65,72,2e,6c,6e,6b,00,4c,41,55,4e,43,48,7e,32,2e,4c,4e,4b,00,00,00,40,\ 00,00,00,02,00,00,00,36,00,32,00,48,02,00,00,c4,24,15,9f,20,00,4c,61,75,6e,\ 63,68,20,4f,75,74,6c,6f,6f,6b,20,45,78,70,72,65,73,73,2e,6c,6e,6b,00,4c,41,\ 55,4e,43,48,7e,31,2e,4c,4e,4b,00,00,00,36,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,2c,00,32,00,\ 51,00,00,00,ec,22,46,39,20,00,53,68,6f,77,20,44,65,73,6b,74,6f,70,2e,73,63,\ 66,00,53,48,4f,57,44,45,7e,31,2e,53,43,46,00,00,00,52,00,00,00,e0,00,00,00,\ 00,00,00,00,16,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,16,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,01,\ 00,00,00,01,00,00,00,aa,4f,28,68,48,6a,d0,11,8c,78,00,c0,4f,d9,18,b4,37,02,\ 00,00,e0,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,16,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,16,00,00,\ 00,00,00,00,00,01,00,00,00Starbuck
neophyte Posted December 12, 2003 Posted December 12, 2003 Just a quick question.Will the QL reg tweak initialise all the appropriate default shortcuts (when implemented by using the cmdlines.txt process)?Ie, show desktop, ie, wimp.
GreenMachine Posted December 12, 2003 Posted December 12, 2003 No, the reg tweak does not do that. The shortcuts are initialized by the corresponding programs (IE, WMP, Outlook, etc.)
tech9 Posted December 12, 2003 Posted December 12, 2003 I'm running this from cmdlines.txt and it works flawless.. there is absolutely NO need to hassle around with user.dat files.echo Re-creating the default System Profile...echo.deltree /y "%systemroot%\system32\config\systemprofile\Favorites\*.*"deltree /y "%systemroot%\system32\config\systemprofile\SendTo\*.*"deltree /y "%systemroot%\system32\config\systemprofile\Start Menu\*.*"start /wait .\reg\SysProf.exeecho Re-creating the default Documents and Settings folder...echo.deltree /y "%allusersprofile%\Documents\*.*"deltree /y "%allusersprofile%\Favorites\*.*"deltree /y "%allusersprofile%\Start Menu\*.*"deltree /y "%systemdrive%\Documents and Settings\Default User\Favorites\*.*"deltree /y "%systemdrive%\Documents and Settings\Default User\SendTo\*.*"deltree /y "%systemdrive%\Documents and Settings\Default User\Start Menu\*.*"start /wait .\reg\Docs.exeBoth .exe's are self extracting winrar files with the default favorites/icons/start menu/etc. i want all users to have.Here are the correct registry entries:;Set Explorer to Detail view, enable Explorer's statusbar and enable QuickLaunch[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Streams]"Settings"=hex:09,00,00,00,04,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,00,77,7e,13,73,35,cf,11,ae,\ 69,08,00,2b,2e,12,62,04,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,43,00,00,00[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Streams\0]"ViewView2"=hex:1c,00,00,00,04,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,90,00,00,00,00,00,01,\ 00,00,00,ff,ff,ff,ff,f0,f0,f0,f0,14,00,03,00,90,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,30,00,\ 00,00,fd,df,df,fd,0f,00,04,00,20,00,10,00,28,00,3c,00,00,00,00,00,01,00,00,\ 00,02,00,00,00,03,00,00,00,51,01,72,00,78,00,61,00,00,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,\ 02,00,00,00,03,00,00,00,ff,ff,ff,ff,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\ 00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Streams\1]"ViewView2"=hex:1c,00,00,00,04,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,90,00,00,00,00,00,01,\ 00,00,00,ff,ff,ff,ff,f0,f0,f0,f0,14,00,03,00,90,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,30,00,\ 00,00,fd,df,df,fd,0f,00,04,00,20,00,10,00,28,00,3c,00,00,00,00,00,01,00,00,\ 00,02,00,00,00,03,00,00,00,51,01,72,00,78,00,61,00,00,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,\ 02,00,00,00,03,00,00,00,ff,ff,ff,ff,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\ 00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Streams\Defaults]"{F3364BA0-65B9-11CE-A9BA-00AA004AE837}"=hex:1c,00,00,00,04,00,00,00,00,00,00,\ 00,00,00,90,00,00,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,ff,ff,ff,ff,f0,f0,f0,f0,14,00,03,00,\ 90,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,30,00,00,00,fd,df,df,fd,0f,00,04,00,20,00,10,00,28,\ 00,3c,00,00,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,02,00,00,00,03,00,00,00,51,01,72,00,78,00,\ 61,00,00,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,02,00,00,00,03,00,00,00,ff,ff,ff,ff,00,00,00,\ 00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\ 00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Streams\Desktop]"TaskbarWinXP"=hex:0c,00,00,00,08,00,00,00,02,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,b0,e2,2b,d8,\ 64,57,d0,11,a9,6e,00,c0,4f,d7,05,a2,22,00,1c,00,0a,10,00,00,1a,00,00,00,01,\ 00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,4c,00,00,00,01,14,02,00,00,00,\ 00,00,c0,00,00,00,00,00,00,46,81,00,00,00,11,00,00,00,20,91,2a,58,94,bd,c3,\ 01,00,98,43,d7,15,bd,c3,01,00,0b,da,58,94,bd,c3,01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\ 01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,15,02,14,00,1f,50,e0,4f,d0,\ 20,ea,3a,69,10,a2,d8,08,00,2b,30,30,9d,19,00,2f,43,3a,5c,00,00,00,00,00,00,\ 00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,5c,00,31,00,00,00,00,00,88,2f,5d,6e,\ 10,00,44,4f,43,55,4d,45,7e,31,00,00,44,00,03,00,04,00,ef,be,88,2f,5d,6e,87,\ 2f,00,b8,14,00,00,00,44,00,6f,00,63,00,75,00,6d,00,65,00,6e,00,74,00,73,00,\ 20,00,61,00,6e,00,64,00,20,00,53,00,65,00,74,00,74,00,69,00,6e,00,67,00,73,\ 00,00,00,18,00,4a,00,31,00,00,00,00,00,88,2f,93,70,10,00,41,44,4d,49,4e,49,\ 7e,31,00,00,32,00,03,00,04,00,ef,be,88,2f,93,70,87,2f,00,b8,14,00,00,00,41,\ 00,64,00,6d,00,69,00,6e,00,69,00,73,00,74,00,72,00,61,00,74,00,6f,00,72,00,\ 00,00,18,00,64,00,31,00,00,00,00,00,88,2f,71,6e,13,00,41,50,50,4c,49,43,7e,\ 31,00,00,4c,00,03,00,04,00,ef,be,88,2f,93,70,87,2f,00,b8,14,00,36,00,41,00,\ 70,00,70,00,6c,00,69,00,63,00,61,00,74,00,69,00,6f,00,6e,00,20,00,44,00,61,\ 00,74,00,61,00,00,00,40,73,68,65,6c,6c,33,32,2e,64,6c,6c,2c,2d,32,31,37,36,\ 35,00,18,00,42,00,31,00,00,00,00,00,88,2f,67,6e,14,00,4d,49,43,52,4f,53,7e,\ 31,00,00,2a,00,03,00,04,00,ef,be,88,2f,93,70,87,2f,00,b8,14,00,00,00,4d,00,\ 69,00,63,00,72,00,6f,00,73,00,6f,00,66,00,74,00,00,00,18,00,52,00,31,00,00,\ 00,00,00,88,2f,57,6f,10,00,49,4e,54,45,52,4e,7e,31,00,00,3a,00,03,00,04,00,\ ef,be,88,2f,93,70,87,2f,00,b8,14,00,00,00,49,00,6e,00,74,00,65,00,72,00,6e,\ 00,65,00,74,00,20,00,45,00,78,00,70,00,6c,00,6f,00,72,00,65,00,72,00,00,00,\ 18,00,48,00,31,00,00,00,00,00,88,2f,b1,70,11,00,51,55,49,43,4b,4c,7e,31,00,\ 00,30,00,03,00,04,00,ef,be,88,2f,b1,70,87,2f,00,b8,14,00,00,00,51,00,75,00,\ 69,00,63,00,6b,00,20,00,4c,00,61,00,75,00,6e,00,63,00,68,00,00,00,18,00,00,\ 00,10,00,00,00,05,00,00,a0,1a,00,00,00,37,01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\ 60,07,00,00,00,00,00,00,16,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,16,00,00,00,00,\ 00,00,00,01,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,aa,4f,28,68,48,6a,d0,11,8c,78,00,c0,4f,d9,\ 18,b4,0c,03,00,00,60,0d,00,00,00,00,00,00,16,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\ 00,16,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,01,00,00,00"Toolbars"=hex:11,00,00,00,00,00,00,00"Upgrade"=dword:00000001Cheers Edit: All users will get the default IE, OE and WMP QuickLauch icons also this way
mikehall Posted December 12, 2003 Posted December 12, 2003 I'm just not having any luck with any method. Does anyone have a direct link to a reg or cmd file? I've tried both methods, neither seems to work, I think because of spacing problems. Importing to the registry tells me it's an invalid file, and I get bad command or syntax error trying to use the long binary string.
GreenMachine Posted December 12, 2003 Posted December 12, 2003 You should really set the taskbar (as well as your other explorer preferences) and export the file yourself. In any event ... here is mine:HKCU.REG
XtremeMaC Posted December 12, 2003 Posted December 12, 2003 when u go and create another user and copy its NTUSER.DATdoes it have the unique random key in the registry stored in it or not?
tech9 Posted December 16, 2003 Posted December 16, 2003 when u go and create another user and copy its NTUSER.DATdoes it have the unique random key in the registry stored in it or not?The ntuser.dat file does contain unique CLSID's and hardcoded usernames and paths.For that reason alone you should avoid copying ntuser.dat files; importing settings through registry files in cmdlines.txt is the preferred and way more elegant solution.
tech9 Posted December 16, 2003 Posted December 16, 2003 so how come ppl copy it?Because most items will just work. But you will get minor issues, for example:Instead of writing to:c:\documents and settings\MyCurrentAccount\local settings\tempit will write to:c:\documents and settings\user_that_was_ntuser.dat_copied_from\local settings\temp.And so on... Just open up a ntuser.dat file in notepad and see for yourself how many hardcoded paths, CLSID's and usernames there are present in an actual ntuser.dat file. They'll keep pointing to the original locations that where defined in the copied ntuser.dat file instead of pointing to the new user locations. It will work, but it's certainly not the nicest way to do it.
XtremeMaC Posted December 16, 2003 Posted December 16, 2003 so if its hexable we should be able to change the path in the ntuser.dat correct?
tech9 Posted December 16, 2003 Posted December 16, 2003 so if its hexable we should be able to change the path in the ntuser.dat correct?You can try and see if that works but you can also use "reg load" to load the ntuser.dat file and then inject the correct settings.
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