RYU81 Posted November 26, 2006 Posted November 26, 2006 is take alot maybe more that 5 mins or sometime 30 mins to booting winvista,i try to disable prefetcher but still dosen't work.
cluberti Posted November 26, 2006 Posted November 26, 2006 If you really have to wait 5 - 30 minutes (anything more than a minute or two, really) is a huge problem, and one that should probably be investigated. If you configure your machine for a complete dump via the keyboard, I wonder if you can dump it while it's hung during this time (at that point most drivers are loaded, so it would be a service or a kernel service dr1. Configure for a complete memory dump via the keyboard (has to be a PS/2 keyboard, USB won't work at this point in the boot process):- Create or set the following registry value:Key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\i8042prt\ParametersValue: CrashOnCtrlScrollType: REG_DWORDData: 1- Right-Click on the "My Computer" icon on the desktop and select "Properties"; this will open the "System Properties" window. Go to the "Advanced" tab and click "Performance Options". Click "Change" under "Virtual Memory". Set the pagefile to be located on the partition where the OS is installed, and set it to be equal to Physical RAM + 50 MB.- Also in the "System Properties" window, click on the "Advanced" tab, then click "Startup and Recovery". Make sure "Complete Memory Dump" is selected. You can change the location of the memory dump file to a different local partition if you do not have enough room on the partition where the OS is installed.You will need to reboot for these changes to take effect.2. Time your next boot, so you know exactly how long (in seconds) it takes from the symptoms of the hang to start and stop - we want to dump it sometime in the middle of the "hang" period, so we need to know how long the hang behavior lasts3. Reboot again, but this time hold down the RIGHT CTRL key and press the SCROLL LOCK key twice when the box is at the middle of the "hang" - this will cause the box to bugcheck and create a memory.dmp file.4. Once the box reboots and comes back up, let me know and I'll give you a place to upload the memory.dmp file.iver causing this, I'd guess).
RYU81 Posted November 26, 2006 Author Posted November 26, 2006 hmm,is take 4 to 5 mins to load,I have dump file and big (512 MB).processoe:intel-pentium 4 -CPU 2.00 Ghzmemory:512 MBsystem type:32 bit
Spooky Posted November 26, 2006 Posted November 26, 2006 (edited) 4 - 5 minutes to load (sometimes 30 minutes) and a 512 MB dump file! ??? Wow! ....and....I think I can say that I don't think prefetcher is your problem.1. Is this an upgrade install? (upgraded winXP with Vista? or Win2K with Vista?)2. If it is an upgrade, how long did it take for the previous OS to start up?3. What build are you using? (RTM?)4. Is this installed on a SATA drive?5. If installed on SATA is the install drive part of a RAID configuration?6. If installed on an IDE drive, is this drive an older ATA 33 or 66 drive?7. When you finally get into Vista, if you look in device manager, are there any problems noticed there and do all devices have drivers? Are any of the devices listed a 'Unknown' or 'Other'?8. Are you installing behind a router or on a network by chance?9. Maybe some type of corrupted install...did you try burning another .iso to a DVD at a low speed? Some burners need to burn the .iso at a low speed like 2X or 4X. hmm,is take 4 to 5 mins to load,I have dump file and big (512 MB).processoe:intel-pentium 4 -CPU 2.00 Ghzmemory:512 MBsystem type:32 bit Edited November 26, 2006 by Spooky
RYU81 Posted November 27, 2006 Author Posted November 27, 2006 1. Is this an upgrade install? (upgraded winXP with Vista? or Win2K with Vista?)new install2. If it is an upgrade, how long did it take for the previous OS to start up?I used before Winxp home edition SP2 and is load 1 to 2 mins3. What build are you using? (RTM?)RTM 60004. Is this installed on a SATA drive?No6. If installed on an IDE drive, is this drive an older ATA 33 or 66 drive?I don't know if ATA 33 or 66 but I install on type "WD 40GB , 4 years old"7. When you finally get into Vista, if you look in device manager, are there any problems noticed there and do all devices have drivers? Are any of the devices listed a 'Unknown' or 'Other'?all three HDDs are know8. Are you installing behind a router or on a network by chance?is there problem for this if I used router on my network??9. Maybe some type of corrupted install...did you try burning another .iso to a DVD at a low speed? Some burners need to burn the .iso at a low speed like 2X or 4X. I burned with 16X I'll try other copy
Spooky Posted November 27, 2006 Posted November 27, 2006 (edited) 2. If it is an upgrade, how long did it take for the previous OS to start up?"I used before Winxp home edition SP2 and is load 1 to 2 mins"1 -2 minutes for winXP to load up is not really that long depending on the system but the average was below 1 minute for most systems in the last few years, so 1-2 minutes for XP might begin to point towards a problem that existed before you installed Vista..6. If installed on an IDE drive, is this drive an older ATA 33 or 66 drive?"I don't know if ATA 33 or 66 but I install on type "WD 40GB , 4 years old"This might be a problem of sorts. Vista expects mostly things made in the last two years for a lot of things. Its picky about some older hard drives also. Might not be a problem, however, what model WD drive is this?7. When you finally get into Vista, if you look in device manager, are there any problems noticed there and do all devices have drivers? Are any of the devices listed a 'Unknown' or 'Other'?"all three HDDs are know"All three drives are installed correctly and listed in device manager properly? Or are you trying to say they are listed as 'Unknown' ?8. Are you installing behind a router or on a network by chance?"is there problem for this if I used router on my network??"Not really a problem in most cases, there were some reports of long boot times of approximately 20 minutes or so with machines behind some routers and it took a long time to procure an IP address from DHCP...just asking, not saying its a problem.9. Maybe some type of corrupted install...did you try burning another .iso to a DVD at a low speed? Some burners need to burn the .iso at a low speed like 2X or 4X. "I burned with 16X I'll try other copy"yes, by all means try this again at a slower speed.1. Is this an upgrade install? (upgraded winXP with Vista? or Win2K with Vista?)new install2. If it is an upgrade, how long did it take for the previous OS to start up?I used before Winxp home edition SP2 and is load 1 to 2 mins3. What build are you using? (RTM?)RTM 60004. Is this installed on a SATA drive?No6. If installed on an IDE drive, is this drive an older ATA 33 or 66 drive?I don't know if ATA 33 or 66 but I install on type "WD 40GB , 4 years old"7. When you finally get into Vista, if you look in device manager, are there any problems noticed there and do all devices have drivers? Are any of the devices listed a 'Unknown' or 'Other'?all three HDDs are know8. Are you installing behind a router or on a network by chance?is there problem for this if I used router on my network??9. Maybe some type of corrupted install...did you try burning another .iso to a DVD at a low speed? Some burners need to burn the .iso at a low speed like 2X or 4X. I burned with 16X I'll try other copy Edited November 27, 2006 by Spooky
RYU81 Posted November 27, 2006 Author Posted November 27, 2006 2-This might be a problem of sorts. Vista expects mostly things made in the last two years for a lot of things. Its picky about some older hard drives also. Might not be a problem, however, what model WD drive is this?this one:http://www.streetprices.com/Electronics/Co....html#specsheet7-All three drives are installed correctly and listed in device manager properly? Or are you trying to say they are listed as 'Unknown' ?All three drives are installed correctly
LLXX Posted November 27, 2006 Posted November 27, 2006 Is there heavy hard disk activity during the boot process?
dAbReAkA Posted November 27, 2006 Posted November 27, 2006 what happens when u clean the prefetch data?
Spooky Posted November 27, 2006 Posted November 27, 2006 (edited) How much space is actully left on the hard drive?Is this drive formatted with FAT32 by any chance?Did you repartition and format the drive before starting your clean install?Have you updated your BIOS? Edited November 27, 2006 by Spooky
dAbReAkA Posted November 27, 2006 Posted November 27, 2006 i heard that vista hates FAT32 and doesnt want to install itself on such type of partition..
RYU81 Posted November 27, 2006 Author Posted November 27, 2006 Is there heavy hard disk activity during the boot process?no,2 with 40 GB and 1 with 40 GBwhat happens when u clean the prefetch data?nothing,is sameHow much space is actully left on the hard drive?Is this drive formatted with FAT32 by any chance?Did you repartition and format the drive before starting your clean install?Have you updated your BIOS?10 GB space free and I repartition and format the drive with NTFS before starting your clean install.
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