Markymoo Posted March 5, 2006 Posted March 5, 2006 (edited) A Multiple Partition USB Stick with Multi Boot OSScroll down for 5/4/2006 updateI wanted several operating systems on a USB stick and after many hours messing with syslinux, memdisk, grub4dos, xosl, freedos, avlgomgr, acronis os selector, ranish partition manager. I have succumbed. I first started out wanting to boot an iso off USB and ran into trouble loading large img with memdisk which I found out is due to a bug in msdos so I used freedos but things didn’t work out as planned and it’s a similar woe story’s with the rest. Acronis os selector lets you boot multiple os from one partition from different folders but don’t work great when it comes to dos. I have 5 partitions on my USB stick and using the boot loader BootIt NG http://www.bootitng.com/bootitng.html This is a 30 day trial. There’s a iso boot image inside the zip you need to burn to cd.Now I wasn’t happy just putting one os on my USB stick. I wanted linux and diagnostic tools etc.I now have what I think is the easiest helpful solution below. Stage 1.Ok XP can only see one partition on a removable USB but if change the USB driver to a fixed disk driver then XP will see it as a hard drive then we can have lay down multiple partitions as we like. Now open regedit and goto HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\USBSTORand double click on USBSTORE and you see a subkey below it, select the first subkey below USBSTORE and right click and select Copy Key NameHere is mine, yours maybe different.HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\USBSTOR\Disk&Ven_Generic&Prod_USB_Flash_Disk&Rev_0.00Now we need only need this part:USBSTOR\Disk&Ven_Generic&Prod_USB_Flash_Disk&Rev_0.00Copy and paste it temporarily into notepad.You will now need this driver. http://www.xpefiles.com/viewtopic.php?t=92Unpack it to a folder on your desktop. Inside the folder is the file cfadisk.inf. You need to open this file and scroll down to you see the line %Microdrive_devdesc% = cfadisk_install, specific dataNow you need to replace all lines %Microdrive_devdesc% = cfadisk_install, specific data withthe line you copied from your registry like so.%Microdrive_devdesc% = cfadisk_install,USBSTOR\Disk&Ven_Generic&Prod_USB_Flash_Disk&Rev_0.00There could be more lines so replace all and save the file.Goto Device Manager and click on disk drives. You see your USB listed, dbl click on it and goto the driver tab and click update driver and install from a specific location and choose the driver to install and click on Have Disk and browse to the cfadisk.inf file your modified driver on your desktop and force that to replace your existing driver. It might ask you to reboot. You should now have your USB showing as Local DiskWe want your first partition dos bootable so run HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool. I’m using version 2.1.8. Select your drive letter of your USB device and select "Create a DOS startup disk" and browse to your 98 boot disk folder. Click Start. Your USB will be formatted and 3 files will be copied from your dos startup files. You need to manually copy the rest of the 98 boot files to your USB drive. You can now resize the drive (mines 512MB) and create multiple partitions. All partition software now sees it as a fixed disk. I used acronis disk director and resized the partition keeping the first dos bootable partition intact and made another 4 fat partitions so I had 5 in total. Make sure your format all partitions as Primary not Logical.I now make all the os for each drive on my USB, so for example I copy all linux files to the root of I: and then syslinux I: G: Dos bootable drive H: BartPE2USB I: Dsl Linux J: UBCD K: Partition ToolsSo this way makes it easy to load multiple iso using ramdisk also. Stage 2Insert your BootIt NG cd you made earlier and your USB stick and reboot and change your bios to boot from cd and disable all hard drives from your bios so they not detected, that way you wont delete any hard drive data and you know your using the USB only. You can now install BootIt onto your USB stick. This is a simple install. It install on the first partition. It will detect all partitions. You can now add the partitions easily. Your USB shows up as HD0 and the separate partitions as MBR 1, 2 ,3 ,4 5 etc and boot from each one from the menu.BootIt is not free. I am using this till i can workout a freeware solution.EDIT: Here comes the better freeware solutions. I going to explain simple easy way that works, on how to create a bartpe and dos dual-boot on an USB stick install each on separate partitions including a menu to select either. I will use 2 partitions for now. Download spfdisk it’s a good boot loader which has many features and is free. http://spfdisk.sourceforge.net/Spf2K3rE.exe We will be using this. Unpack it. You need 1 file only from it, spfdisk.exe. Plan how much space to split up for dos and bartpe. Delete all your USB stick so it’s unallocated space and then create 2 partitions of fat to the size you need and format. Make the first partition dos. Acquire or make a dos bootable cd or floppy and put spfdisk.exe on it. Make sure you match the dos version of your boot disk to same version of dos system files you be using on your usb. Copy dos,ghost whatever files to your dos partititon and copy your bartpe files to the bartpe partititon. Check you have the 2 files mkbt.exe & pe2usb.bin in your pebuilder folder. Download Pe2usb if not. Open up a cmd box in your pebuilder dir and run the command: “mkbt.exe -x pe2usb.bin N:” N being the letter of your bartpe partition. Reboot and keep your USB stick in and boot off the dos cd or floppy. Type the command sys drive: drive being the letter of your dos partititon. Run spfdisk.exe in dos Create the menu to boot both partitions in spfdisk. Save the changes. Reboot, take out your cd and boot up off the USB and its working.Alternative method using WinGrub for multiboot usb Download Wingrub http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=104188Have the partitions formatted to fat.Install WinGrub. Insert your USB stickNote: Your usb stick partitions will be hd0,0 and hd0,1 when you boot on startup but will be different under windows, not showing as the first drive.First time you rub Wingrub you see a box pop up called base setup. Click the drive letter of your USB stick and click Ok. Make sure its your USB stick you click and not your hard drive. In Wingrub right click in the menu table and click edit and paste the menu data below over the existing data in the edit box and click ok. now save it as a new name ending in .lst - If you need that menu again load it back in. You need to make a folder on your usb called boot and inside that another folder called grub and then copy your menu.lst to that folder.timeout 30color=white/blue title Dos Utilsunhide (hd0,0)hide (hd0,1)rootnoverify (hd0,0)chainloader +1makeactiveboottitle BartPEhide (hd0,0)unhide (hd0,1)rootnoverify (hd0,1)chainloader +1makeactivebootNow in tools menu click Install Grub. You going to install grub to the MBR. Now click the partition letter of your first partition of your USB stick then click install. 2 files have copied to your partition and your mbr is now patched with grub. How easy is that, no use of a disk editor needed. The original mbr is saved in the file MBR.ORG on your usb. You can now reboot test your usb stick and use the grub menu. Edited November 19, 2007 by Markymoo
e-t-c Posted March 13, 2006 Posted March 13, 2006 Maybe You can use this Bootmanager (Private = Free) http://www.boot-us.de/download.htmsalüWolfgang e-t-c
Bilou_Gateux Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 (edited) @MarkymooCongratulations for this fine tutorial.Step 1: done!One Olympus MAUSB-300 Portable Reader / Writer with one xD-Picture Card™ inserted is now seen as a basic disk in Disk Management console (diskmgmt.msc).Some input: you can change the string in CFADISK.INF to reflect the exact name of your hardware[cfadisk_device]%MAUSB-300_devdesc% = cfadisk_install,USBSTOR\Disk&Ven_OLYMPUS&Prod_MAUSB-300&Rev_1.00[strings]MAUSB-300_devdesc = "Olympus MAUSB-300"The 256 Mb xD-Picture Card was previously formated with WinPE 2K3 SP1 OPK CD formatufd.exe tool. One single partition. Step 2: Done but factory.exe fails to initialize NIC. Boot PE from Hard DriveThe same image works fine when booted from Hard Drive. I must retrieve some posts from this board and www.911cd.net/forums board users who have the same issues.Step 3: not enough time to achieve this because i should deliver the writer/reader to my customer soon.Boot Windows XP Embedded w/SP1 from this UFD. Request to all members:if someone as already done this with one SanDisk MobileMate™ Reader , please report your eXPerience.i would like to buy one to play with it and SanDisk Extreme® III SD™ Cardsit should probably works because it can be done with Puppy Linux distro. Edited March 14, 2006 by Bilou_Gateux
Markymoo Posted March 16, 2006 Author Posted March 16, 2006 (edited) Maybe You can use this Bootmanager (Private = Free) http://www.boot-us.de/download.htmsalüWolfgang e-t-cNice try, Its no good for usb. The best solution is to use grub. Installing grub is easiest with linux. I will update my guide soon Edited March 16, 2006 by Markymoo
jaclaz Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 @MarkymooThe best solution is to use grub. Installing grub is easiest with linux. I will update my guide soonYou might be interested in my reply to your post in 911CD:http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?sho...ic=10806&st=268(you could get some ideas to expand your tutorial) jaclaz
Markymoo Posted March 16, 2006 Author Posted March 16, 2006 (edited) Why not just try syslinux... lolbecause i want to use big img's and these take time to load up with memdisk same with ramdisk, plus theres issues with memdisk and io.sys, plus syslinux needs fat and yes there is freedos as a workaround. so saying all that i am impatient and dont want to wait when partitions just run it instant.@MarkymooThe best solution is to use grub. Installing grub is easiest with linux. I will update my guide soonYou might be interested in my reply to your post in 911CD:http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?sho...ic=10806&st=268(you could get some ideas to expand your tutorial) jaclazta jaclaz respect. it should be you writing the tutorials. im sure you can do awesome with your vast knowledge and i dont mean pasting x number of bytes into the bootblock but more friendly.i just bought a usb external hard drive, its a full scale limitless bootable solution, it be interesting to know when those with xp on there usb sticks give up the ghost (joke get it) how long they last Edited March 16, 2006 by Markymoo
Markymoo Posted March 16, 2006 Author Posted March 16, 2006 (edited) @Bilou_Gateuxcheers! if i can help people complete the jigsaw, there are people with the solutions in the heads already but less on paper. you see snippets here snippets there but nothing concrete. its like we all know the twin towers didnt fall down just due to planes.i dont think it matters what the hardware called as long as you get the end resulti just revived data from a laptop from utils off my usb where the partition was mostly detroyed but i managed to browse the files on the damaged partiton and burn to dvd-rw in one go. how cool is that! Edited March 17, 2006 by Markymoo
chazco Posted March 25, 2006 Posted March 25, 2006 This has really helped me with a project i've been working on, but how do you uninstall the driver and revert to showing as a removable device?
Markymoo Posted March 28, 2006 Author Posted March 28, 2006 (edited) @chazcosimple, same place you install the driver in hardware devices theres a rollback option to revert back to the previous driver which will be your original Edited March 28, 2006 by Markymoo
chazco Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 Thanks for the reply - i tried that already though. I'll explain in more detail...I'm creating a Windows - based Linux installer for handheld PC's, and needed to partiton compact flash cards. My setup installed the driver using an application called "infpinst" which can be run from a command line. Unfortunatly, this seems to prevent roll-back from working. I can uninstall the old driver using infpinst, but then Windows refuses to detect them as mass storage.Any suggestions...
Markymoo Posted April 5, 2006 Author Posted April 5, 2006 (edited) just use a generic usb driver, theres quite a few around.you need theseUsbport.sysUsbhub.sysHccoin.dllUsbehci.sysor just find out your manufacturer Edited April 5, 2006 by Markymoo
jaclaz Posted April 9, 2006 Posted April 9, 2006 (edited) Good work, Markymoo. Just for the record Wingrub development is on hold, the GRUB4DOS version it has is corresponding to 0.91, whilst GRUB4DOS is up 0.4.1 - corresponding to 0.97 (stable) and and 0.4.2pre is just out:http://sarovar.org/projects/grub4dos/You can use allright the Wingrub to make the menu.lst, but it is better if you use the latest grub4dos as the actual bootloader.You do not actually need to INSTALL it.You can format the key under NT/2K/XP/2003 (so that the bootrecord invokes NTLDR), then you copy to the stick:menu.lst (it can be either in ROOT, /boot/, /boot/grub/)NTLDRGRLDRand you add a boot.ini file with this entry (at least):C:\GRLDR="Start GRUB"If you format the key as a (win9x) DOS disk (so that bootrecord invokes io.sys/msdos.sys/command.com)you add to the stick:menu.lst (it can be either in ROOT, /boot/, /boot/grub/)GRUB.EXEand (optionally) you add to your autoexec.bat the line:GRUB.EXE(or you can input it on comand prompt, only when you need to shift partitions)@MarkymooWhere did you get that splashimage?jaclaz Edited April 9, 2006 by jaclaz
Markymoo Posted May 11, 2006 Author Posted May 11, 2006 yes i agree with you. but this is the newbie guide. the splash image i got off the web, is that a trick question because it has softpedia burnt into the background of the image.
jaclaz Posted May 12, 2006 Posted May 12, 2006 NO, I just asked because it was nice and it is not easy to make a GRUB image.Here is my experience on those images:SPLASHIMAGEGRUB allows using a splashimage, sort of a background.Here are the NEEDED features of the slashimage:1) The image MUST be 640x4802) The image MUST have a maximum of 14 colours3) The image MUST be in the .xpm format (and can later be gzipped)The Windows 32 port of the Gimp saves in a .xpm format that is NOT compatible with GRUB.http://www.gimp.org/windows/You will need the Windows 32 port of ImageMagick.http://www.imagemagick.org/script/index.phpDraw your image in your preferred graphic program, save it as .BMP with a 14 colours palette (if your graphic program does not allow this, use the Gimp to open the .BMP, limit the palette to 14 colours and save it again as .BMP).Now open a command prompt window, navigate to your ImageMagick install directory and give this command:convert picture.bmp picture.xpmPreview the result with the Gimp, check that colours are really limited to 14, DO NOT save the image with the Gimp!If result is OK, re-run as follows:convert picture.bmp picture.xpm.gz(or you can use 7zip to gzip the image previously made)Please note that it is important to do the above because if you try to use, as you should theoretically: convert -colors 14 picture.bmp picture.xpm.gzstarting from a, say, 256 colours image, the palette will NOT be optimized and result will be VERY POOR.After having tested that the image works with GRUB, you should spend sometime experimenting with the two settings:Foreground=xxyyzzBackground=xxyyzzThese are coded colours (RGB, same as used in HTML) that apply to the TEXT superimposed by GRUB (normal/highlighted).Since I am a very bad "painter", I have found that a quick way to get acceptable results is to start from a 16 colours 640x480 image, they used to be backgrounds for Windows 3.1 and can be found quite ieasily on the internet.jaclaz
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