You may be right, but MS on connect site have released both a Check and Debug version of Vista.

I use the check version and the amount of services have been about the same, I usually get it down

to about 34 sevices running.

yeah, i would think any new services or program features they have added have some type of monitoring or checking feature runninng constantly to give them feedback about how it is being used and how they can optimize it. I mean that is what a beta is for

time will come Vista will be stripped down like what we're doing to XP...

God is it just me or does Vista look incredibly tasty? I cant wiat to get a copy of it....though I would most likely wait till at least SP1 is out or something. And that would prob give the nLite community for Vista enough time to develop and have a shrunk down version ready to play!