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I was trying to solve this problem lately, no matter what I try - 360Chrome can't open any website.
Happens with all 360Chrome versions: v11, v12 and v13 - they all say: errorcode=7 [ERR_TIMED_OUT (-7)] hmm

These are the things I tried:
1. Download YouTube video with yt-dlp 2025.06.13 - didn't help
2. Open page google.com in Incognito mode - didn't help
3a. Open google.com + keep page open + Firewall OFF - WORKS after long time of waiting hmm
3b. Open google.com + close page or restart browser + Firewall OFF - doesn't work hmm
4. Cmd ipconfig-release+renew - didn't help
5. Restart Router - didn't help
5b. Restart Router + Cmd ipconfig-release+renew - didn't help
6. Open 360Chrome not from 360Loader.exe but from Chrome\Application\360chrome.exe - didn't help
7. Open page + keep page and browser open + force shut down - didn't help
8. Create both  HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\360chrome  +  HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\MozillaPlugins  keys in Registry - didn't help
9. Automatically adjust clock for daylight saving changes OFF - didn't help
10. Install Certificates from Cert_Updater_v1.6.exe - didn't help

The only thing that I know it works 100%, because I have tried it 7-8 times, is this:
Open MPC-HC 2.1.2 (with latest yt-dlp.exe [I had v2025.06.13]) and watch YouTube video from URL for 10 seconds - works.
[Probably other MPC-HC version would work, and my current yt-dlp.exe v2025.06.13 was 50+ days old, so it was not the latest, but still worked]
Exact same results happen in XP SP2 and XP SP3.

As if something is stopping 360Chrome to use Internet on new Win XP SP2 and SP3 installation, and  watch YouTube video from URL in MPC-HC  is allowing
360Chrome to use Internet.

yt-dlp will not be available for XP forever, so I wanted to find another solution to this.

I remember ArcticFoxie, (@NotHereToPlayGames) also had such problem with 360Chrome in the past, he eventually made it work to have Internet, but he
didn't say how he fixed it, or maybe I have forgotten.

I made 'before' and 'after' Registry and System save, to check what exactly  watch YouTube video from URL in MPC-HC  changes in the Registry and
System.
Here is the file with 'before' and 'after' changes:
Regshot 1.9.0, Compare  before and after  watch YouTube video from URL in MPC-HC, ~res-x86.txt :
https://pastebin.com/Ge2yU4iU

Maybe I can add some of these entries in the Registry, and make 360Chrome have Internet, without using MPC-HC watch YouTube video from URL.

Any ideas are greatly appreciated.


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I've never had any issues with 360Chrome not connecting to the internet.

The only problem I ever encountered was with first-launch-after-reboot-or-hibernate and ONLY IF taking FALSE INFO from this very forum in regards to specific dll files and only on XP x64.

Ignore that FALSE INFO and KEEP the specific dll files that was "sworn up and down to remove" by non-XP members of this very forum and everything worked flawlessly for me.

dll files that I do not need in Win10 or Win11 x64 but *WAS A MUST TO KEEP* for me when running XP x64.

Again, only affected first launch after a reboot or resume from hibernate.  And only affected XP x64.

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@NotHereToPlayGames

I found it, though you were trying to connect to the Internet on your old Compaq Presario with XP x86 SP2, not with your usual XP X64 SP2:
https://msfn.org/board/topic/182876-360-extreme-explorer-modified-version/page/34/#findComment-1204935
https://msfn.org/board/topic/182876-360-extreme-explorer-modified-version/page/34/#findComment-1204937
https://msfn.org/board/topic/182876-360-extreme-explorer-modified-version/page/34/#findComment-1204940
https://msfn.org/board/topic/182876-360-extreme-explorer-modified-version/page/35/#findComment-1204961
https://msfn.org/board/topic/182993-360-extreme-explorer-arcticfoxie-versions/page/4/#findComment-1205477
https://msfn.org/board/topic/182993-360-extreme-explorer-arcticfoxie-versions/page/24/#findComment-1207275
https://msfn.org/board/topic/182993-360-extreme-explorer-arcticfoxie-versions/page/24/#findComment-1207334

I see that you finally managed to connect to the Internet, by launching a PORTABLE Chromium v49.
I might try that.
Do you remember exactly which version of PORTABLE Chromium v49 it was?
And what was the source of the file, which website it was downloaded from?

Same as you, my XP x86 SP2 install disk is Basic and VANILLA, with NO patches and NO POSReady.
Also, same as you, I wanted to make registry and hard drive "snapshot" before and after to compare.

What PORTABLE Chromium v49 did for you, watch YouTube video from URL in MPC-HC did for me, allowed 360Chrome to connect to the Internet.

Same as you, in my case it also shows "Establishing secure connection..." in the status bar but it can't open the page, can't open any website.

When you are free, can you take a look at my compare-before-and-after registry and HD "snapshot" text file, and see if you recognize something that
could help 360Chrome to connect to the Internet?

Posted

Ah, I totally forgot about XP x86 SP2.

I'd have to install XP x86 SP2 into a VM and "reinvent the wheel" as to what registry changes were made during a Portable Chromium v49 launch that then enabled internet connectivity.

I didn't "log" anything at all when trial-running SP2 way back when.

Posted (edited)

Freshly installed XP x86 SP2.

I can load ht-tp sites right out of the box.  ie, the test site from our previous discussions - ht-tp://antutu.com/html5/

But ht-tpS sites do not load.

Digging...

Edited by NotHereToPlayGames
Posted (edited)

For my freshly installed XP x86 SP2 -

All I had to do in order to get 360Chrome to finally load ht-tpS sites was to LAUNCH SP2'S NATIVE IE6, let the "internet" icon display in the lower right corner, EXIT NATIVE IE6, then 360Chrome started working.

Albeit with an "insecure padlock" - but I ignore those on XP!

 

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Edited by NotHereToPlayGames
Posted

Thanks @NotHereToPlayGames, I really appreciate it.   :worship::worship::worship:

I have been avoiding IE6 like the plague for the last 20 years, so I haven't even touched it for 2 decades. No wonder I didn't even think to try that.

I opened IE6 for 5 seconds and then closed it - 360Chrome still can't open ht-tpS sites.
I opened IE6 for 10 seconds and then closed it - 360Chrome now can open ht-tpS sites, good.
I guess (on my PC) it needs some time to unblock the blockage in the background (Registry).

I suppose there is no harm in opening IE6 for 10 seconds, but I am not 100% sure, so I wanted to hear your opinion.
It opens this blank white page by default: http://www.microsoft.com/isapi/redir.dll?prd=ie&pver=6&ar=msnhome
Is there any risk in opening IE6 for 10 seconds?

Posted

Agreed.  Something with the OS-Level "certificate chain" is not fully installed until after IE6 is launched.

No risk, in my opinion.  I personally trust the 10sec launch to link that chain together over and above any other certificate-repair/update out there.  I personally *avoid* interfering with that linkage via "third-party" cert-interference.

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ps - if you want to try something one step further and upon your next install, launch the IE6 **BEFORE** your network driver/connectivity, then axe IE6.

I personally axe IE by way of the below as a run-as-admin bat-file.

Basically, the exe is replaced with a folder of the same name and the exe has its name changed.  Windows does not allow a folder and file to be the same exact name.

I **KEEP** IE as the OS "default browser" but my IE *cannot* launch.  Nothing INTRODUCES security holes in an OS more than having a "default browser"!

Unsure why SP2 requires IE6 to be launched but this is not a requirement in SP3 (my SP3's require no IE launch in order for 360Chrome to work).

 

 

; takeown /f "c:\program files\internet explorer" /r /d y
; takeown /f "c:\program files (x86)\internet explorer" /r /d y

echo y| cacls "c:\program files (x86)\internet explorer\iexplore.exe" /P everyone:f

@echo off
C:
cd "\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer"
if not exist IEXPLORE.EXE goto End
if exist IEXPLORE.EX_ del IEXPLORE.EX_
if not exist IEXPLORE.DIR md IEXPLORE.DIR
if not exist IEXPLORE.DIR goto End
attrib -r -h -s IEXPLORE.EXE
ren IEXPLORE.EXE IEXPLORE.EX_
if exist IEXPLORE.EXE goto End
ren IEXPLORE.DIR IEXPLORE.EXE
echo IE disabled.
echo If prompted, click "Cancel" then "Yes" on File Protection restore.
echo Run enable-ie.bat to allow IE to run again.
:End 

echo y| cacls "c:\program files\internet explorer\iexplore.exe" /P everyone:f

@echo off
C:
cd "\Program Files\Internet Explorer"
if not exist IEXPLORE.EXE goto End
if exist IEXPLORE.EX_ del IEXPLORE.EX_
if not exist IEXPLORE.DIR md IEXPLORE.DIR
if not exist IEXPLORE.DIR goto End
attrib -r -h -s IEXPLORE.EXE
ren IEXPLORE.EXE IEXPLORE.EX_
if exist IEXPLORE.EXE goto End
ren IEXPLORE.DIR IEXPLORE.EXE
echo IE disabled.
echo If prompted, click "Cancel" then "Yes" on File Protection restore.
echo Run enable-ie.bat to allow IE to run again.
:End 

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