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This topic is designed to compare the overall performance of different computers with each other under Windows XP.

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@NotHereToPlayGames Here we are:

2 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:
3 hours ago, AstroSkipper said:

The only way to compare our computers is doing the same test regarding all hardware components.

Define the parameters of such a test and I will engage in this battle.  Quantifiable measurements where neither one of us can "cheat".  Then we'll let the rest of MSFN members "decide for themselves".

2 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

I think the way they "used to" test-compare this type of "battle" is to take a folder of 1000, or 2000, or 5000 bitmaps/jpegs/txts and "time" how long it takes 7-Zip to compress them.

Uses RAM, uses CPU, uses HDD read-writes, et cetera.  We compress the same exact set of files, use the same exact compression program, use the same exact compression format, et cetera.

Capture a video of it so that the GPU is thrown into the mix somehow.

I'm willing if you are.

Since the word offtopic is apparently not in your vocabulary, I hereby move our conversation to this thread created specifically for the purpose of computer performance comparisons in order to finally be ontopic again.
Your proposed test procedure is far too fiddly and time-consuming. I am more in favour of using a well-known, locally installed test tool (i.e. offline tool) that tests all components and generates an overall performance index for the purpose of comparison. :P  My suggestion: PCMark05 which still supports Windows XP.

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In the standard version, the tool runs through eleven tests, which provide a numerical value at the end. In the detailed view, you can read the individual results from the tests and draw conclusions as to which components are underperforming. Most of the tests run as individual tests. Some simulate applications running in parallel.

 

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34 minutes ago, AstroSkipper said:

My suggestion: PCMark05 which still supports Windows XP.

First hiccup -

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The Microsoft link sent me to a downloads page with nothing available for XP, as one would expect from a Microsoft link.

 

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Second hiccup -

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Sorry, but NO.  I will not be installing DirectX 9.0c (not if I don't "have to").  My computer has no use for DirectX as I am not a "gamer".

 

Any other suggestions for comparing performance between two XP machines?

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44 minutes ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

First hiccup -

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Probably every Windows XP user has it installed. Look here: https://archive.org/details/WMEncoder9Series

42 minutes ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Second hiccup -

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The same applies to DirectX 9.0c. It's essential and needed for testing graphics.
Since you don't really use your computer anymore anyway, it's probably no problem to install these things briefly.

41 minutes ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Third hiccup -

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https://benchmarks.ul.com/en/legacy-benchmarks
https://www.chip.de/downloads/PCMark05-Vollversion_13003873.html

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I'm still digging.  I always always always test in VM first.  NOTHING lands on my computers without being tested inside a VM first.

So far the keys in that one link do not work (PCMark05 and 3DMark05 are not the same thing).

 

edit -- oops, I didn't scroll down far enough, lol...  still digging...

 

edit2 -- I am generally NOT a supporter/user of XP's "adjust for best appearance" but this is what PCMark05 "suggests".  I have to assume that you are using "adjust for best appearance" in this one-on-one comparison?

 

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3 minutes ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

I'm still digging.  I always always always test in VM first.  NOTHING lands on my computers without being tested inside a VM first.

So far the keys in that one link do not work (PCMark05 and 3DMark05 are not the same thing).

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Your code is wrong. Download one of the linked versions and use its provided key!

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24 minutes ago, AstroSkipper said:

Download one of the linked versions and use its provided key!

Technically, we just violated MSFN Forum Rules.  But we probably just toed-the-line and are fine "in this scenario".

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Ugh!  All my results are BLANK.  Says I must select System Tests and they ARE selected.

Appears to be VM related.  UNFORTUNATE.  As I really really really hate hate hate installing software on any computer without testing inside a VM first.  Modus Operandi.

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19 minutes ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

edit2 -- I am generally NOT a supporter/user of XP's "adjust for best appearance" but this is what PCMark05 "suggests".  I have to assume that you are using "adjust for best appearance" in this one-on-one comparison?

 

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No. Under no circumstances. I have enabled only two settings under Performance Options:

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"Smooth edges of screen fonts" and "Use visual styles on windows and buttons".

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15 minutes ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Technically, we just violated MSFN Forum Rules.  But we probably just toed-the-line and are fine "in this scenario".

No. We do not violate the MSFN Forum Rules. This version is provided as a full version for everyone. It's a legal and well-known website CHIP.de. The tool PCMark05 is abandoned software and offered to be used on old systems for free.

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