halohalo Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 (edited) I've checked all INF files in 475.14 for Windows 7, and nvlai.inf already contains GeForce RTX 3050 Laptop GPU so I think there is no need to modify INF file. The most interesting thing is official advanced driver search and we all know 3080Ti laptop, 3070Ti laptop, and 3050Ti laptop are not supported, and I found no information about these GPUs in INF files. But the release notes contains 3050Ti laptop since 473.04. In fact, 3050Ti laptop GPU was launched before R470, which means the wrong information exists before 2022. 3080Ti laptop and 3070Ti laptop use same section number, and 3050Ti uses unique section number. If these GPUs are supported, I think finding the correct section number in nvbli.inf is the first step. When I found the correct section number for 1660Ti in R410, no one knows 1660Ti can work with driver branch R410 on Windows 10 1607. If users can prove the correct section number exists and the installation is blocked by error code 43, then modifying nvlddmkm.sys will be the difficult next step. However, maybe the true fact is there is no correct section number for these GPUs. One more thing, 475.14 for Windows 7 supports 3 variations of GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU, but the GPU has four variations. Edited August 18, 2024 by halohalo
Dixel Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 12 hours ago, halohalo said: I've checked all INF files in 475.14 for Windows 7, and nvlai.inf already contains GeForce RTX 3050 Laptop GPU so I think there is no need to modify INF file. Aren't those 473, 474, 475 are simply "security fix" drivers? BTW, did you see the result? https://msfn.org/board/topic/186055-3050ti-3060ti-3070ti-and-3080ti-laptop-gpu-driver/?do=findComment&comment=1263435 4
halohalo Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 1 hour ago, Dixel said: Aren't those 473, 474, 475 are simply "security fix" drivers? BTW, did you see the result? https://msfn.org/board/topic/186055-3050ti-3060ti-3070ti-and-3080ti-laptop-gpu-driver/?do=findComment&comment=1263435 If you compared INF files for Windows 10 and Windows 7, you will find the answer. Unlike Windows 10, the driver for Windows 7 only supports GeForce RTX 3050 Laptop GPU for one pc maker. GeForce RTX 3050Ti Laptop GPU was launched before driver branch R470, so only users of Windows7 can find out the truth. But it is difficult than discrete graphics card because there is no universal INF file for laptop GPUs.
D.Draker Posted August 19, 2024 Posted August 19, 2024 On 8/18/2024 at 6:11 PM, halohalo said: If you compared INF files for Windows 10 and Windows 7, you will find the answer. Any inf can be generated, so? The driver itself has nothing new, except security garbage, which is declared by Nvidia officially. It's the same branch (very old) R470. R470 doesn't work with 3050 and win7 (not the "ti" version). https://msfn.org/board/topic/186055-3050ti-3060ti-3070ti-and-3080ti-laptop-gpu-driver/?do=findComment&comment=1263435 3
halohalo Posted August 19, 2024 Posted August 19, 2024 3 hours ago, D.Draker said: Any inf can be generated, so? The driver itself has nothing new, except security garbage, which is declared by Nvidia officially. It's the same branch (very old) R470. R470 doesn't work with 3050 and win7 (not the "ti" version). NVIDIA released 474.88 only for GeForce RTX 3050 GPU in 2024.
D.Draker Posted August 19, 2024 Posted August 19, 2024 (edited) 12 hours ago, halohalo said: NVIDIA released 474.88 only for GeForce RTX 3050 GPU in 2024. The OP started this thread in 2024, I think he searched for official drivers first, they didn't work, hence the topic. Probably, someone else will test again... P.S. Many would be happy. Edited August 19, 2024 by D.Draker 3
halohalo Posted August 19, 2024 Posted August 19, 2024 However, GeForce RTX 3050 OEM is not on the support list. So it will be a problem.
D.Draker Posted August 20, 2024 Posted August 20, 2024 On 8/19/2024 at 5:25 PM, halohalo said: However, GeForce RTX 3050 OEM is not on the support list. So it will be a problem. I don't trust they will be good, if work at all. From my long experience with nVidia drivers, those generic ones from nVidia site totally suck. One would need to use OEM drivers to get the best, besides I got a recent example. https://msfn.org/board/topic/186395-3d-video-card-not-working-windows-7-sp1-x64/ 2
Aiek Posted August 26, 2024 Author Posted August 26, 2024 On 4/16/2024 at 8:46 AM, madao said: I ended up forcing the driver in a crude way, just for the purpose of seeing if it could work at all. I edited the inf file to change basically all of the hardware IDs in certain areas and enabled Test Signing mode. It successfully installed, but it was basically unusable. Pretty sure that RTX Laptop GPU being compatible with Windows 7 was a big lie from Nvidia, or a sloppy misfiling. I do still wonder about if anyone has gotten any RTX 30 series laptop GPU running at all on Windows 7. This experience has also made me question whether or not a 3090 TI will actually run on Windows 7, though I think I have seen someone on reddit claiming that they have that working on Windows 7. Oh well, I didn't have any touchpad drivers to make the touchpad on that laptop work on Windows 7 anyway. this screenshot should sum up everything pretty nicely, try plugging in the laptop to an external monitor
Aiek Posted August 26, 2024 Author Posted August 26, 2024 On 8/19/2024 at 8:55 PM, D.Draker said: The OP started this thread in 2024, I think he searched for official drivers first, they didn't work, hence the topic. Probably, someone else will test again... P.S. Many would be happy. yeah btw i tried again with the latest driver (475), no luck i tried with nv_dispi, nvaci, nvlai, etc. i still have the laptop with me i just use it as a server though, if you want me to test anything ill happily fire up the windows 8.1 install on it
Aiek Posted August 26, 2024 Author Posted August 26, 2024 (edited) On 8/20/2024 at 4:43 PM, D.Draker said: I don't trust they will be good, if work at all. From my long experience with nVidia drivers, those generic ones from nVidia site totally suck. One would need to use OEM drivers to get the best, besides I got a recent example. https://msfn.org/board/topic/186395-3d-video-card-not-working-windows-7-sp1-x64/ there r like 20+ variations of the 3050ti driver according the inf files from the nvidia driver i got from acers website, mine is this one 10DE 25A0 162A the laptop in question is an acer aspire 7 a715-43-r9r0 Edited August 26, 2024 by Aiek
D.Draker Posted August 26, 2024 Posted August 26, 2024 13 hours ago, Aiek said: yeah btw i tried again with the latest driver (475), no luck i tried with nv_dispi, nvaci, nvlai, etc. i still have the laptop with me i just use it as a server though, if you want me to test anything ill happily fire up the windows 8.1 install on it In as much as I want to help you, I can't, nVidia doesn't publish docs on drivers, and there were no leaks recently. About the thing that the official drivers won't work, I knew it, and I wrote about it. That driver is old batch, simply because they added security fix and the date of publishing went from June 2021 to 2024 won't magically add this newer card. They lie, again. 4
Aiek Posted August 26, 2024 Author Posted August 26, 2024 1 hour ago, D.Draker said: In as much as I want to help you, I can't, nVidia doesn't publish docs on drivers, and there were no leaks recently. About the thing that the official drivers won't work, I knew it, and I wrote about it. That driver is old batch, simply because they added security fix and the date of publishing went from June 2021 to 2024 won't magically add this newer card. They lie, again. dw, even if someone did get the driver woking, youd still need an external monitor which defeats the whole purpose of using a laptop i alr got an egpu dock and it did work but i barely even use the 3050ti laptop, my 2017 macbook air with windows 8.0 is slim which is what ive always wanted (and also runs NT 6.x with full driver support) only if someone ports over dch at some point so we can run w10 drivers, didnt they drop non-dch in the 470 batch?
Aiek Posted August 26, 2024 Author Posted August 26, 2024 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Aiek said: dw, even if someone did get the driver woking, youd still need an external monitor which defeats the whole purpose of using a laptop i alr got an egpu dock and it did work but i barely even use the 3050ti laptop, my 2017 macbook air with windows 8.0 is slim which is what ive always wanted (and also runs NT 6.x with full driver support) only if someone ports over dch at some point so we can run w10 drivers, didnt they drop non-dch in the 470 batch? i guess i could just try getting the igpu working since the first version is from like 2021 and amd ended support for their w7 drivers in 2022, speaking of that has anyone TRIED backporting the ryzen 5000 series igpu drivers to w7? i think they might be dch because i tried getting them to work under 1507 or 1607 and they didnt work.. oh well im probably just gonna continue using that laptop as a server as i refuse to use windows 10, even if its my only choice Edited August 26, 2024 by Aiek
D.Draker Posted August 26, 2024 Posted August 26, 2024 11 hours ago, Aiek said: has anyone TRIED backporting the ryzen 5000 series igpu drivers to w7? i think they might be dch because i tried getting them to work under 1507 or 1607 and they didnt work.. I tried, but not the Ryzen, I tried nVidia, they worked, but no Aero effect, and very glitchy, unstable. Besides, you'll have problems with signing because it requires edits to .sys file. 2
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