Desperate to install/use Windows 7. Help

[Tsundere]

On ‎9‎/‎06‎/‎2016 at 5:16 AM, cdob said:

Backup the files, w'll clean the USB disk.

As for intermedia testing, you may try the Lexar USB too.
Should survive first boot.

Boot Windows 8.1,
Z:\sources\install.wim : default Windows 7 install file
C:\drivers\Win7_x86\USB3 : Windows 7 USB3 drivers

diskpart.exe

list disk
sel disk Number
detail disk
clean
create par prim
format fs ntfs quick
active
assign letter=U
exit

DISM.exe /Apply-Image /ImageFile:Z:\sources\install.wim /Index:3 /ApplyDir:U:\
bcdboot.exe U:\Windows /s U: /f BIOS

Dism.exe /image:U:\ /Add-Driver /driver:C:\drivers\Win7_x86\USB3 /recurse /ForceUnsigned
Dism.exe /image:U:\ /Get-Drivers /Format:Table

fix_USB3_SD.cmd U:\Windows

fix_USB3_SD.zip

Ok, so I tried these steps with the lexar and the apply-image was taking too long.

Next I tried with wd elements all the steps went smoothly (I think). I used the 'cd' command to get into the folder with 'fix_USB3_SD.cmd'

When I tried to boot the elements, [start loop] I got the "Starting Windows" with 4 coloured dots (win7). The 4 dots starting moving together then the laptop suddenly reboots and goes into Win 8.1.

So I immediately restart, and boot elements again, and this time I get the black screen with 'Start Windows Normally" and "safe mode", etc..

I chose  'Start Windows Normally" and it goes to the start of the loop.

Does this data help?

Edited June 11, 2016 by Tsundere

[cdob]

On 11.6.2016 at 5:04 PM, Tsundere said:

When I tried to boot the elements, [start loop] I got the "Starting Windows" with 4 coloured dots (win7). The 4 dots starting moving together then the laptop suddenly reboots and goes into Win 8.1.

That's bad news: most likely a BSOD 0x7b missing boot device.
Native USB boot approach failed: driver, BIOS CSM oder timing issue.
Timing issue could be resolved at Start=0 and group setting. Difficult to debug.

But reviewing previous behaviour, we are jumping back to the eMMC approach:
There was no micro SD Card without iaiosd.sys.
There is a micro SD Card with iaiosd.sys.
iaiosd.inf refers a iaiosd_Device and a iaioeMMC_Device.
Let's try the eMMC one, I should have prefered this initially.

[INTEL.NTx86]
;Baytrail
%iaiosd.DeviceDesc%=iaiosd_Device, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F16
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F14
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, ACPI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F14
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, ACPI\PNP0D40
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, PCI\PNP0D40
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, PNP0D40
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F50

Can you create a new boot.wim? And be aware to use ForceUnsigned.
Does diskpart list the eMMC disk now?

[Tsundere]

On June 13, 2016 at 7:17 AM, cdob said:

That's bad news: most likely a BSOD 0x7b missing boot device.
Native USB boot approach failed: driver, BIOS CSM oder timing issue.
Timing issue could be resolved at Start=0 and group setting. Difficult to debug.

But reviewing previous behaviour, we are jumping back to the eMMC approach:
There was no micro SD Card without iaiosd.sys.
There is a micro SD Card with iaiosd.sys.
iaiosd.inf refers a iaiosd_Device and a iaioeMMC_Device.
Let's try the eMMC one, I should have prefered this initially.

[INTEL.NTx86]
;Baytrail
%iaiosd.DeviceDesc%=iaiosd_Device, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F16
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F14
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, ACPI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F14
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, ACPI\PNP0D40
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, PCI\PNP0D40
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, PNP0D40
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F50

Can you create a new boot.wim? And be aware to use ForceUnsigned.
Does diskpart list the eMMC disk now?

Where do you want me to paste that code? And do I make the boot.wim using the same steps as above (but with no install.wim at all?)? Sorry, I am quite newb

Edited June 14, 2016 by Tsundere

[jaclaz]

You need to try editing the iaiosd.inf file (Notepad will do), review:
 

 

jaclaz
 

[Tsundere]

On ‎13‎/‎06‎/‎2016 at 10:17 PM, cdob said:

That's bad news: most likely a BSOD 0x7b missing boot device.
Native USB boot approach failed: driver, BIOS CSM oder timing issue.
Timing issue could be resolved at Start=0 and group setting. Difficult to debug.

But reviewing previous behaviour, we are jumping back to the eMMC approach:
There was no micro SD Card without iaiosd.sys.
There is a micro SD Card with iaiosd.sys.
iaiosd.inf refers a iaiosd_Device and a iaioeMMC_Device.
Let's try the eMMC one, I should have prefered this initially.

[INTEL.NTx86]
;Baytrail
%iaiosd.DeviceDesc%=iaiosd_Device, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F16
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F14
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, ACPI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F14
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, ACPI\PNP0D40
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, PCI\PNP0D40
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, PNP0D40
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F50

Can you create a new boot.wim? And be aware to use ForceUnsigned.
Does diskpart list the eMMC disk now?

Sorry for the delay. I think I've been using that code this whole time. I applied boot.wim image index 2 on wd elements, using the same steps you described for index.wim. The first time was with emmc drivers+usb3 drivers+fix_usb.cmd. Result: http://imgur.com/YXRbgfr

The second attempt only had emmc drivers (no usb3 anything): http://imgur.com/HpPH8XA

It is similar to what happened with my old wintousb attempts.

iaiosd.inf

Edited June 18, 2016 by Tsundere

[cdob]

37 minutes ago, Tsundere said:

I think I've been using that code this whole time.

No, there is a difference: iaiosd.inf refers a iaiosd_Device and a iaioeMMC_Device:
%iaiosd.DeviceDesc%=iaiosd_Device, PNP0D40
is not
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, PNP0D40
This enable the parameter EMMCBoot.

Try the iaioeMMC_Device.

[Tsundere]

40 minutes ago, cdob said:

No, there is a difference: iaiosd.inf refers a iaiosd_Device and a iaioeMMC_Device:
%iaiosd.DeviceDesc%=iaiosd_Device, PNP0D40
is not
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, PNP0D40
This enable the parameter EMMCBoot.

Try the iaioeMMC_Device.

Sorry my bad, I will try again. Do I add it to the existing code or do I delete everything under ;Baytrail and paste it?

Edited June 18, 2016 by Tsundere

[cdob]

3 hours ago, Tsundere said:

Do I add it to the existing code or do I delete everything under ;Baytrail and paste it?

Replace the privious file. Start using a original iaiosd.inf,

This is part of the original file,
%iaiosd.DeviceDesc%=iaiosd_Device, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F16
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F50

Insert the addional lines after PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F16 to get the result
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F14
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, ACPI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F14
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, ACPI\PNP0D40
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, PCI\PNP0D40
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, PNP0D40

As for testing, it's about boot.wim so far. Take small steps.
Boot the edited boot.wim. Does diskpart.exe detect the eMMC now?

[Tsundere]

-On ‎13‎/‎06‎/‎2016 at 10:17 PM, cdob said:

That's bad news: most likely a BSOD 0x7b missing boot device.
Native USB boot approach failed: driver, BIOS CSM oder timing issue.
Timing issue could be resolved at Start=0 and group setting. Difficult to debug.

But reviewing previous behaviour, we are jumping back to the eMMC approach:
There was no micro SD Card without iaiosd.sys.
There is a micro SD Card with iaiosd.sys.
iaiosd.inf refers a iaiosd_Device and a iaioeMMC_Device.
Let's try the eMMC one, I should have prefered this initially.

[INTEL.NTx86]
;Baytrail
%iaiosd.DeviceDesc%=iaiosd_Device, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F16
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F14
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, ACPI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F14
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, ACPI\PNP0D40
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, PCI\PNP0D40
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, PNP0D40
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F50

Can you create a new boot.wim? And be aware to use ForceUnsigned.
Does diskpart list the eMMC disk now?

I am getting bsod again with boot.wim+emmc(corrected)+usb3+usb3 fix. I'll try a few more permutations

iaiosd.inf

[aviv00]

boot to recovery mode

move folders like windows, program files ... to windows.old

use dism or gimagex to apply install.wim image from win7 iso / disc

[Tsundere]

@cdob Sorry for the delay, here are 2 screenshots from the latest attempt, this time booted from a new 8gb flash drive. boot.wim+emmc(corrected)+usb3 drivers but I excluded the usb3_fix.cmd and there was no bsod this time. Perhaps it is no a media card reader issue?

On ‎22‎/‎06‎/‎2016 at 8:20 PM, aviv00 said:

use dism or gimagex to apply install.wim image from win7 iso / disc

I think I have been doing that, but with boot.wim. I don't understand your other instructions

[aviv00]

U have windows 8 installed right now right?

if yes

u will need to move OS folders and settings folders to windows.old

then u can apply the image install.wim to it

[Tsundere]

17 hours ago, aviv00 said:

then u can apply the image install.wim to it

Yes I am on win 8.1. You mean apply Windows 7 install.wim onto my emmc drive? I think that's too risky atm since the win7 setup isn't detecting it properly (see screenshot above). Win7 diskpart is detecting it as type: Unknown

Edited July 6, 2016 by Tsundere

[aviv00]

then make new partition and apply it there and add boot entry and see if there drivers missing

Edited July 6, 2016 by aviv00

[Tsundere]

On ‎6‎/‎07‎/‎2016 at 8:14 PM, aviv00 said:

then make new partition and apply it there and add boot entry and see if there drivers missing

Apply just boot.wim, install.wim or both? Btw, I have applied boot.wim to an external fixed disk (see previous posts),  and got bsod. My guess is it is likely I will get bsod again, from previous tests. Assuming, I did that and got another bsod, what would the next step be?

Edited July 7, 2016 by Tsundere