harkaz Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) Rebase is a command-line tool I created in 2016 to facilitate component store cleanup after installation of Windows 7 updates. This will minimize the size of your Windows 7 deployment images and free up disk space on your Windows 7 systems. The product was originally available for a small fee, but now - more than 1 year after its original release - I decided to give it for free, but without support. Any requests for custom support will be ignored. Download link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7k-l_4omFECWE5DSklyWTBVVDA Version: 1.1.30.1 Password: scarface WARNING: REBASE MUST BE USED TO CLEAN UP ONLY WINDOWS 7 SYSTEMS OR INSTALLATION IMAGES! FOR MAXIMUM RELIABILITY, THE CONVENIENCE UPDATE ROLLUP (KB3125574) MUST BE APPLIED TO THE TARGET SYSTEM, BEFORE USING THIS TOOL! Documentation is a bit outdated; use the included program PowerRun instead of the referenced one (RunAsTI) to launch an elevated command prompt on all systems (including Windows 10) Edited July 22, 2019 by harkaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkaz Posted November 23, 2015 Author Share Posted November 23, 2015 I have just found one free tool called Dism++ that claims to clean the winsxs folder as well. So I tested it and I have to comment on it: After performing a /resetbase command on my computer I asked this tool to scan winsxs for elements that can be removed. I took a look at what is staged for removal: C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Adobe-Flash-For-Windows_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_b8257c5f13e6c6fa\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft.VC90.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_9.0.21022.8_none_750b37ff97f4f68b\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft.VC90.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_9.0.30729.1_none_99b61f5e8371c1d4\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft.VC90.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_9.0.30729.4148_none_08e3747fa83e48bc\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft.VC90.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_9.0.30729.6161_none_08e61857a83bc251\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft-OneCore-TetheringService_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_1a35b417915337a4\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft-System-User-Service_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_17dde1eb1d53e210\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft-Windows-Audio-AudioCore_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_03255c7f8ef6f30b\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft-Windows-Branding-Base-Core_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_cef6ae5dc08d9b14\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft-Windows-DeviceCensus_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_3bf807e2a4ddfeac\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft-Windows-DirectComposition_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_29fa3a13ec1a5796\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft-Windows-DirectUI_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_437b8c0598ed32a4\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft-Windows-GDI_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_3658b0d104dd907d\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft-Windows-ieframe_31bf3856ad364e35_11.0.10586.0_none_25197fd0c3501a51\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft-Windows-IE-HTMLRendering_31bf3856ad364e35_11.0.10586.0_none_d3ba25cd375a8c24\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft-Windows-IE-RuntimeUtilities_31bf3856ad364e35_11.0.10586.0_none_081abd8aa1b5414b\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft-Windows-IE-RuntimeUtilities_31bf3856ad364e35_11.0.10586.3_none_081ac33ca1b538c0\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft-Windows-Internal-Bluetooth_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_022e168a51bc3ba7\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft-Windows-MediaFoundation_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_28e4c794b718ddb4\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft-Windows-MFCore_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_7d5e3e8e0188cba3\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft-Windows-MFMKVSrcSnk_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_d37618443c88c782\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft-Windows-MicrosoftEdge_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_9dbd56cc9a76ad54\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft-Windows-MicrosoftEdge_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.3_none_9dbd5c7e9a76a4c9\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft-Windows-OOBE-Machine_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_9a03e28dad88dc72\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft-Windows-OS-Kernel_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_f8b5f9f95e7a4599\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft-Windows-OS-Kernel_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.3_none_f8b5ffab5e7a3d0e\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft-Windows-Provisioning-Core_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_44549d8ad9dc8106\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft-Windows-PurchaseDialog.Core_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_bc237f8c995fa63f\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft-Windows-Scripting-JScript_31bf3856ad364e35_11.0.10586.0_none_4356fbc80c556815\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft-Windows-Security-Kerberos_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_735c75845b24c329\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft-Windows-shell32_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_f8aec336bc5320f0\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft-Windows-TDI-Over-TCPIP_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_76c360a4866cdbe8\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft-Windows-TwinUI_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_002d100963b85cd3\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft-Windows-TwinUI-AppCore_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_1e4e560a052a50be\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft-Windows-Wimgapi_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_15813ac2bf35bce7\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft-Windows-Win32k_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_4579121344ddfcf1\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft-Windows-WindowUI_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_93cfbffe8decd633\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft-Windows-Winsock-Core_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_646ddaeb08c45281\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft-Windows-WwanSvc_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_2df42f44c96db53e\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_System.Data_b77a5c561934e089_10.0.10586.0_none_fc06f5c44bedccd8\C:\Windows\winsxs\wow64_Adobe-Flash-For-Windows_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_c27a26b1484788f5\C:\Windows\winsxs\wow64_Microsoft-Windows-Audio-AudioCore_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_0d7a06d1c357b506\C:\Windows\winsxs\wow64_Microsoft-Windows-DirectComposition_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_344ee466207b1991\C:\Windows\winsxs\wow64_Microsoft-Windows-DirectUI_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_4dd03657cd4df49f\C:\Windows\winsxs\wow64_Microsoft-Windows-GDI_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_40ad5b23393e5278\C:\Windows\winsxs\wow64_Microsoft-Windows-ieframe_31bf3856ad364e35_11.0.10586.0_none_2f6e2a22f7b0dc4c\C:\Windows\winsxs\wow64_Microsoft-Windows-IE-HTMLRendering_31bf3856ad364e35_11.0.10586.0_none_de0ed01f6bbb4e1f\C:\Windows\winsxs\wow64_Microsoft-Windows-Internal-Bluetooth_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_0c82c0dc861cfda2\C:\Windows\winsxs\wow64_Microsoft-Windows-MediaFoundation_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_333971e6eb799faf\C:\Windows\winsxs\wow64_Microsoft-Windows-MFCore_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_87b2e8e035e98d9e\C:\Windows\winsxs\wow64_Microsoft-Windows-MFMKVSrcSnk_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_ddcac29670e9897d\C:\Windows\winsxs\wow64_Microsoft-Windows-Scripting-JScript_31bf3856ad364e35_11.0.10586.0_none_4daba61a40b62a10\C:\Windows\winsxs\wow64_Microsoft-Windows-Security-Kerberos_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_7db11fd68f858524\C:\Windows\winsxs\wow64_Microsoft-Windows-shell32_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_03036d88f0b3e2eb\C:\Windows\winsxs\wow64_Microsoft-Windows-TwinUI_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_0a81ba5b98191ece\C:\Windows\winsxs\wow64_Microsoft-Windows-TwinUI-AppCore_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_28a3005c398b12b9\C:\Windows\winsxs\wow64_Microsoft-Windows-Wimgapi_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_1fd5e514f3967ee2\C:\Windows\winsxs\wow64_Microsoft-Windows-WindowUI_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.0_none_9e246a50c24d982e\C:\Windows\winsxs\x86_Microsoft.VC90.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_9.0.21022.8_none_bcb86ed6ac711f91\C:\Windows\winsxs\x86_Microsoft.VC90.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_9.0.30729.4148_none_5090ab56bcba71c2\C:\Windows\winsxs\x86_Microsoft.VC90.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_9.0.30729.6161_none_50934f2ebcb7eb57\C:\Windows\winsxs\x86_Microsoft-Windows-IE-RuntimeUtilities_31bf3856ad364e35_11.0.10586.0_none_abfc2206e957d015\C:\Windows\winsxs\x86_Microsoft-Windows-IE-RuntimeUtilities_31bf3856ad364e35_11.0.10586.3_none_abfc27b8e957c78a\C:\Windows\winsxs\x86_System.Data_b77a5c561934e089_10.0.10586.0_none_43b42c9b6069f5de\C:\Windows\Winsxs\backup\C:\Windows\Winsxs\Temp\ (DO NOT REMOVE IF PENDING OPERATIONS ARE PRESENT) If I run this tool (I didn't) I would destroy servicability of my image in the long run.First of all, an less important mistake: C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft.VC90.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_9.0.21022.8_none_750b37ff97f4f68b\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft.VC90.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_9.0.30729.1_none_99b61f5e8371c1d4\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft.VC90.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_9.0.30729.4148_none_08e3747fa83e48bc\C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_Microsoft.VC90.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_9.0.30729.6161_none_08e61857a83bc251\C:\Windows\winsxs\x86_Microsoft.VC90.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_9.0.21022.8_none_bcb86ed6ac711f91\C:\Windows\winsxs\x86_Microsoft.VC90.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_9.0.30729.4148_none_5090ab56bcba71c2\C:\Windows\winsxs\x86_Microsoft.VC90.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_9.0.30729.6161_none_50934f2ebcb7eb57\ are all removed, which terribly wrong. There are apps that depend on these multiple CRT versions. I have even found code that checks for the presence of these versions. The BACKUP folder is also removed. Let's be clear about it: you shoudn't remove this folder if you want your system to be reliable under every possible scenario. This folder contains important backups of the current versions of component manifests. We simply don't touch this, it is automatically cleaned up. Another more important error: The program deletes base versions of installed files. How can you service the system when an update needs these files to apply the deltas? Probably you should ask the developers. The only improvement you can make over resetbase in windows 8.1+ is to PROPERLY remove (files+registry) files versions that have been superseded, but they neither base versions or active ones (I added bold to the list above to indicate what should be removed). This would save exactly 72 MB in my case. So I have rejected another winsxs cleanup tool, and unless someone finds a good alternative for Windows 7 I will proceed with my tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinifera Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) pretty much any duplicate file finderbig bonus gets those who can mark folders and not just files for deletion you can go heavy way by any fast search program, but then you need to watch out by DATE and BUILD numberalso the whole Backup folder is to be removed but as you noticed you don't spare too much space from SxS folder alone, 100 MB somewhatwhile Backup folder might vary from 500 MB to more in fact the only real clean SxS I ever saw done correctly was eXperience guy who made "Tiny7"but hell one has to know what exactly to remove as most files are linked to .cat (catalog) files and manifestsall in all its bul***** Edited November 24, 2015 by vinifera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkaz Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 Never delete the folders in winsxs without the appropriate changes in registry. Doing so will create inconsistencies in the component store. So a simple file/folder cleanup is not enough. Let me present the features of my method:1. File and registry cleanup, keeps active and base versions.2. Does not touch runtimes.3. Compresses base versions4. Checksur and sfc are happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinifera Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 good luck tracking all the registry entries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkaz Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 I've already found the registry entries. I have started coding the program because it seems there is no free alternative that's good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinifera Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 well if you gonna charge itthen situation stays the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkaz Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 Well, not exactly the same. The price will be rather low (I think most people could afford a price tag of $5 - $10). It's the first time I try to sell an application. It's more like an experiment to see how many will be interested and how easy it is to make profit. There is another tool for update cleanup that seems to be reliable (ntLite), but it's more expensive than this. I hope that the the special features implemented and the low price tag will make the tool attractive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinifera Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 if you gonna sell itthen you better make it clean without any screwup - and this is big responsibility, as you can't sell something and put label "I am not responsible for damages caused by ....." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkaz Posted November 26, 2015 Author Share Posted November 26, 2015 (edited) I will test various scenarios before distributing the tool. Some examples include: Basic testing: Windows Update, SFC, CHECKSUR, installation/uninstallation of future updates.IE9, IE10 / WMF 3.0, WMF 4.0: multiple versions have been installed before using rebase.Windows Update Cleanup hotfix compatibility with rebase toolScenario: Language pack installation after running rebase tool.Scenario: Removal of Windows components after running rebase tool.Scenario: Cleanup of LDR-only system (only LDR branches of updates have been installed).This will enable me to prepare the documentation: what's supported, what's not supported and what must not be done. Support of the program is not life-time. I will keep supporting it for a limited time, at the moment I estimate this will be 1 year. Of course, if serious bugs are discovered (I hope not) support period will be extended. I recommend trying the tool first in a virtualized environment, preferably with a generic "golden" deployment image. Edited November 27, 2015 by harkaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinifera Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 more tests required can you install new updates offlinecan you install IE 9 , 10, 11can you uninstall updates installed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkaz Posted November 27, 2015 Author Share Posted November 27, 2015 Updated previous post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinifera Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 also try with .net reinstall3.0, 3.5, and above after cleaningnot sure but I think they dump some crap into SxS too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkaz Posted December 3, 2015 Author Share Posted December 3, 2015 First phase of coding is complete. Preliminary (pre-alpha) testing has started. Add to beta testing phase (TODO-list): Test SP1 installation after running tool on Windows 7 RTM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
os2fan2 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 One has to remember that SxS is a cure for DLL-HELL. DLL Hell arises because Microsoft could not keep a contract. In essence, if you release something like VBRUN100.DLL as a library for VBASIC apps, then any version of VBRUN100 is meant to keep the same published APIs. That's the whole point of it. People write proggies to run expecting VBRUN100 to run. You can, of course end up with the maze of MFC30, where the source code was released for the DLLs, and the individual programmers fixed the code and recompiled DLL files. THREED.VXD is yet another multi-version thing that had to be in Windows directories, but there were just too many of them. The cure for DLL hell was to create a 'virtually in windows' structure, where the individual assembly directory pretends to be in the windows directory for the process that invokes it. This is SxS. Of course, you get programs where refreshes are recompiled in different versions of the same thing, so the implementation of SxS has just made the problem worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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