Dogway Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I have XP set as default OS, the problem is that I want to boot to 7 when using the PC as a HTPC, but when I do so the only HID device I have available is a XBOX360 Joystick, which I tested and doesn't work on the boot menu.So I'm trying to find a way to solve this. What devices apart of keyboards work on boot menus? Do those infrared controllers work?Another option is to edit the boot loader (7's boot loader) to default to boot to 7 (from XP if that's possible) every time I want to do this, but I don't think it's a so nice idea to write to the MBR so frequently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Another option is to edit the boot loader (7's boot loader) to default to boot to 7 (from XP if that's possible) every time I want to do this, but I don't think it's a so nice idea to write to the MBR so frequently.Well, if it helps you , the boot loader (7's boot loader) does not reside in the MBR.jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogway Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 (edited) Then it should be safe (?), at least if I can change boot priority from XP. Edited February 25, 2014 by Dogway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
submix8c Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Under Windows 7, BCDEDIT (google that) or (alternative) EasyBCD.HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogway Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 (edited) Yes I use EasyBCD over Win7, but much better if I find one for XP. Or maybe just buy something that works on the boot menu. Edited February 25, 2014 by Dogway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdob Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 if I find one for XP.Bcdedit.exe works both at XP and Windows 7. So does BOOTICE http://bbs.ipauly.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2&sid=ebc27aec23a8eb21006e07ab6f3b01cb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogway Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 Great! I might just use that.Now that I'm here, to clear the other question, what type of device do I need to operate on POST, boot menu, etc?Keyboard, mouse, joystick, pen tablet, remote controller, they are all HIDs, but AFAIK only keyboards work, why is this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdob Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 AFAIK only keyboards work, why is this?The BIOS suuports keyboard device like devices only. A UEFI firmware supports a mouse too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogway Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 And what makes keyboards different to other devices? (so I know what to look at) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsenellenelvian Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 (edited) Drivers, it's all down to what the bios supports.Drives, keyboard that's about it.Basic initialization support for video cards Edited February 25, 2014 by Kelsenellenelvian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogway Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 and what's considered a keyboard?why a remote controller cannot be passed as a keyboard, because technically it's a board with keys...Do I always need a half meter keyboard to manage on BIOS, boot menus, etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsenellenelvian Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 That's how it's always been done. New graphical uefi bios have mouse support.Older systems only check for the presence of keyboards the mouse isn't even working until the very first windows start routines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsenellenelvian Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Yes it's a board with keys but not keys that say a,b,c 1010110 so on....They say 1=3,+\- all sorts of wierd sh*t the bios can't understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogway Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 Yes, but my question is still the same, what makes technically a keyboard a keyboard and a mouse a mouse.Just in case I am going to search for a working device I know what to look for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsenellenelvian Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Yes it's a board with keys but not keys that say a,b,c 1010110 so on....They say 1=3,+\- all sorts of wierd sh*t the bios can't understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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