ROTS Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 (edited) Okay these are the things I am searching for currently, to make my Vista Exprience better. 1. How to get full permission access to all folders? basically many folders are blocked from my view in Vista. I want to access them, in order to removeand delete personal data. I am talking about the same problem in XP where you lose permissions toyour folders, but this is Vista which is not XP. In this problem VIsta will not give me access period. I need ful ermissions. 2. Stop Vista from reading or writing data to a hard drive? Apparently everytime I insert my second harddrive, which has more then one partitians. Vista keeps attempting to make a thumb nail or record the names of the files.Everything is okay, until I start to access that folder.The problem is so bad, the computer freezes, or the Explorer freezes. It is like Vista is scanning all of my files, even if I turn off.I just want Vista to stop, going threw my files like a fine tooth comb. It is annoying, because many of my Zip files are also damaged, because Vista keeps looking inside them. It damages my files and makes my computer slow down. 3. Prevent updates periods. The moment I put my Vista online, it is like the computer programs installed and running or not running are on a magical race to update. What I have a problem with, is when the first two things occur with the third. It is like Vista is attempting to look at all my devices and give the most recent updates. For OSX this is normal and a good thing, because OSX users are either computer savy or not. Windows this a bad thing, because after the update something does not work the same way, like a user created program. This is one of the reasons why I still like using 98. I do not have to hear the drive work like crazy doing a bunch of things I do not ask it for. It is insane. Edited September 14, 2013 by ROTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsenellenelvian Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 (edited) Good luck, Vista was quite arguably the WORST OS MS came out with next to 8.Windows 7 is MUCH easier to deal with and fix. You might want to look at switching to 7.Here is a .reg file for taking ownership of those pesky folders. Once you take ownership deleting them is easier.Take_Ownership.reg Edited September 11, 2013 by Kelsenellenelvian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicAndre1981 Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 no Vista/7 don't differ the way they handle folder permissions. So what does 7 makes better for you in this term or do you only want to troll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJinje Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 (edited) 1) you got the Take Ownership tweak, if that don't work and you're not on english windows report back and I tell you the fix.2) Control your index service like this, or if needed one can likely disable the service entirely. http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/17854-index-locations-add-remove.html3) Easy enough to disable the Windows Update service. It is a simple reg tweak. http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/88554-windows-update-enable-disable-access.html Edited September 12, 2013 by MrJinje Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTS Posted September 14, 2013 Author Share Posted September 14, 2013 Before I make a new thread, I think the this is the same problem. I decdied to reformat my USB flashs. On the flash I noticed Windows Vista making a temp folder. This temp folder delete itself. Now imagine if Vista decided to snap pictures, make txt recordings. I am guessing Vista keeps making these records, in these folders, and pauses because the ammount of files it has to index. I want to turn off all indexing. So that it reads a folder, and takes no action at all........just like in Windows 98. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 (edited) For once in my life, I will support MagicAndre1981 (and his good opinion on Vista ), possibly only to undermine some of Kelsenellenelvian certainties.Let's use some logic.Windows NT 4.00 is NT 4.0 ----------------------------------------Windows 2000 is NT 5.0Windows XP is NT 5.1Server 2003 (or XP 64 bit) is 5.2-----------------------------------------Windows Vista is NT 6.0Windows 7 is NT 6.1Windows 8 is NT 6.2------------------------------------------(I inserted a few separating lines to highlight the points I'll try to make )Windows 7 is nothing but a "service pack" to Windows Vista, or if you prefer an evolution, with very little (if any at all) "dramatic" changes over Vista.Vista when it came out was the worse OS I have ever seen, but as MagicAndre1981 often points out, once it got it's SP1 and a few updates it became as good as it could be.If you strip Windows 7 of the added bells and whistles, and of a very few added little features, you find underneath it a Vista alright.The real mistakes IMHO MS made were two:to publish Vista at a time when it was NOT mature enough to have it deployed by the various OEM's on underpowered hardware (and inducing people to install it on existing underpowered hardware)On proper hardware, and properly updated/configured, VIsta is not at all that bad, and it is not like 7 "shines" in comparison.@KelIn other words, if you start to think at Windows 7 as Vista SP3 you will have IMHO a more correct point of view on the matter.jaclaz Edited September 14, 2013 by jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinifera Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 (edited) except UI improvement of 7 over vista is huge, and that means alot to userjust compare Explorer, vista's is clunky, everything is squished, icon below icon, no organisation, not to mention the annoying scroll to the right thingy7's explorer finally introduced separation of different folder types, its neater-cleaner-more organised, you have favorites tree which is excelentvista taskbar = xp + useless thumbnails7 one is fantasticdesktop, sidebar vs free floating gadgets, 7 winsstart menu ?, small change but instant shutdown button again wins in 7-system wise win7 has less agressive superfetch and UAC Edited September 14, 2013 by vinifera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicAndre1981 Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 and the less agressive superfetch makes Win7 slower because Win7 has to load more data from disk later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinifera Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 actually prefetch is useless so its best to disable it, especially on SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicAndre1981 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 when Superfetch was born, there were no SSDs available for home users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinifera Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) its useless on normal HDD tooyes, goal is to load all crap you use frequent in RAMbut to do that OS has to1. index the stuff2. constantly analyse and write data of (how they said) "your habits"3. when it by some miracle finishes within a monthit reads .sf files (think that was the extension)then within them sees path to real programsthen finally loads your programs into the RAMthis is waste of time, and waste of computer's work, while both vista and 7 do this job, youre better of defragment your HDD and normally run appsnot to mention how superfetch slows down "boot to desktop" process as with case of fonts, OS needs to load this .pf listand normally biggest fail is when you restart/shutdown PC, all this cached RAM info is gone and process of loading all starts againat least to me, for any home user this is crap feature, for business and companies ok, they probably have PC on for weeks Edited September 16, 2013 by vinifera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicAndre1981 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 it makes perfect sense on HDD drives. It speeds up boot, app launching and switching between Applications. Read the other topic where you replied The speed benefit from Vista over 7 comes from better Superfetch usage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinifera Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) it does speed up later, but my main point is: at what cost and time ? Edited September 17, 2013 by vinifera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicAndre1981 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 which cost? Low costs, because it runs with a low IO priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinifera Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I had a chance to see in certain shop of owners PC back thenhis machine had 16 GB RAM, and 12 GB of those 16 were FULL because of that prefetchare you telling me that reading those scattered 12 GB all over disk were low I/O ?how can it be low when it has to load it all on startup immediately ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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