Need Help With FireFox 4.0 Config (Simple, Tab Thing)

[anathematized1]

Unnecessary Back-Story

Well, I know this forum is really for Microsoft products and Windows and stuff for the most part, but I tried going onto the Mozilla/Firefox website and they don't have an actual... forum, where you can talk to other users.

I tried searching out with about 50 Google searches of what I'm looking for and can't figure it out or find a place to ask this, but I've come here with problems before and always walked away with them fixed, even when Microsoft and my brand computer's help services had no clue what to do. Ha ha, I've learned quite a few diagnostic tricks and things and how to figure out some things on my own because of this site, ha ha, I love it, so when I couldn't find what I was looking for, I was like, "man, skip it, I'm going to head to MSFN, I KNOW somebody there will know how to do this."

I'm not exactly a n00b when it comes to tweaking the about:config of Firefox but basically my question is this...

The Question/Issue

When I middle click a link in Firefox 4.0, it does exactly as I want, it opens the link in a new tab next to the current tab, and not way at the end of the tab bar.

One thing though that I can't seem to find out how to configure is how to make it so that whenever you click the "New Tab" button, it opens the new tab next to the current tab, instead of at the end of the tab bar.

So basically, I just need to know what type of preference I need (probably boolean?), what the name of the preference should be, and it's value, to make it do what I want.

Your help is greatly appreciated in advance.

[anathematized1]

And I do apologize for this being in the wrong forum, ha ha, when the MSFN forum page loaded (I seriously need to restart FF, it's lagtastical today), it didn't load the other forum sections past the "Unattented Windows..." forums.

Bah, I did have one other issue though (and I apologize to the mod who has to take the time to move this to the proper forum)...

There was one more issue I had with Firefox 4.0. If Firefox crashes, then I start it back up, it restores my tabs, which is all well and good, however...

In the 3.x version of Firefox, whenever you closed it with multiple open tabs, it always asked if you wanted to save the tabs on exit. With the 4.0, it doesn't do that anymore. There is an option to pin tabs to the "app tab" but I don't want to use that. Well, I am using it, I have one thing pinned to it, which is the one thing that is consistently open in FF every time I open it and stays open all the time.

However, I'll have a good 30 tabs (as I previously stated) of stuff I'm working on at once, and sometimes I just have to close Firefox because I need to restart my computer, or because it's lagging and I need to restart FF, or whatever. I don't want to have to pin all those 30 tabs to the app tab and then unpin them when I open it back up. So far, my only option has been to either: bookmark all open tabs in a folder (tedious and unnecessary if I can turn the option back on of it saving tabs on exit) or open Task Manager and hit end task on FF, when it says "are you sure you want to exit" in FF because it says "doot de doo, I'm not crashed and you're closing me, so I'm going to annoy you) and I click cancel, then the option for Windows to end the program comes up and I hit that then FF goes bye bye and then I restore tabs on restart (I don't want to do that though as it is also tedious and unnecessary, and there's a chance it won't save/restore tabs).

Meh. >_<

[Tripredacus]

I think its because you can't move the + tab away from the end.

In Firefox 3, there was an option to prompt about tabs being open when you close the browser. I had always turned that off so I am not seeing any difference with Firefox 4.

Under options\Tabs there are some settings you can try:

- Warn me when closing multiple tabs

I don't see a way to turn on the browser closing warning. It might be in about:config. Also don't forget to check the add-on site for anything, maybe someone made a mod for tabs or the warning?

[anathematized1]

I think its because you can't move the + tab away from the end.

In Firefox 3, there was an option to prompt about tabs being open when you close the browser. I had always turned that off so I am not seeing any difference with Firefox 4.

Under options\Tabs there are some settings you can try:

- Warn me when closing multiple tabs

I don't see a way to turn on the browser closing warning. It might be in about:config. Also don't forget to check the add-on site for anything, maybe someone made a mod for tabs or the warning?

Well with Firefox 4, that option is there, and I have it checked. You see when I close it it pops up with a warning saying that there's X tabs open, are you sure you want to close? It doesn't give an option to save the tabs though.

I did find something else that is new I think for Firefox 4. You know, it would have been nice if this was included in the stupid release notes, but apparently, you go into Tools > Options and then on the first tab (General), the very first setting is "When Firefox Starts:" and then it has a drop down box. Just change it to "show my windows and tabs from last time." I know before that the option for this was somewhere else, and was a radial button that you just checked if you wanted it to save your tabs on exit. BAH!

I did more searching today and found some information about it. If you hit the close button on the top right corner, it doesn't come up with the prompt to save the tabs. However, if you go to file > exit, it does come up with the prompt to save the tabs. Weird, but I don't want to have to do that every time, so I have no idea what the deal with that bull is.

Also you're to check in about:config that "browser.showQuitWarning" is set to true. I'll test this out in a little while to see of all of this fixes that.

Now, even with the + button at the end of the tab bar, there's also the option of hitting control + t and also going to the file menu and clicking new tab.

I know in Firefox 3 there was a way you can change it so that no matter how you created a new tab, it would open next to the current tab instead of at the end, but I can't figure out how to get it in 4.0. I tried the about:config thing that they suggested for 3.x, but it didn't work in 4.0. I am going to try again but the first time, I tried it as a boolean, which I set to both true and false and neither worked. I'll try it again as an integer with either 1 or 0, but we'll see, but I was looking for what I had found on this the other day and couldn't find it and found a different thing but, I'm digging again. Of this site I found... it has 200 entries on one page, and that's just the a's and part of the b's. '

I know "browser.tabs.insertRelatedAfterCurrent" set to true is what opens any links that you middle click to be in a new tab right next to your current tab. Still can't find any info about forcing new tabs not open from links to do the same. >_<

I found this add-on that does what I want (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tabs-open-relative/), but it's only for up to version 3.5 of Firefox. Subsequent searching turned up nothing that would work in Firefox 4.

On an interesting side note, I saw a lot of addon's that were for Firefox 3.x that all they did was make links open in new tabs open next to the current tab instead of the end, but you can set that with the options or the about:config. Seems kind of pointless to me to make a whole addon to change that...

I just thought of one other thing, and I tried doing a search for the answer, but I never have luck with Google searches. I put in all the most important key words I can think of or put exactly what it is I want word for word in a way that makes sense and get nothing relative back.

Anyway, the other thing I want is when I click a link in an external application, it opens the link in a new tab next to the current viewed tab in Firefox instead of at the end of the tab bar.

Edited May 12, 2011 by anathematized1

[anathematized1]

Does anyone even know of like an actual Mozilla board where there are Firefox users who are pros at everything to do with it or something?

I wanted to leave feedback on the Firefox feedback thing that I think they should have the options for that stuff, but none of the topics that you have to choose from have anything at all to do with what I'm telling them they should do.

Bah. Why do I always have to make impossible choices? I mean, I can't use something, no matter how good of a program it is, if the GUI is hideous to me. Chrome is >_< to me with the tabs being on top. I don't know if you can move them to not being on the top as it was a while back since I used it, but just that alone made it a no-go for me (not to mention some other things). The thing about Chrome is, it has some really awesome stuff that made me really want it. Like when a wepage you're looking at gets borked, instead of the whole browser crashing, only that one tab crashes, so you can close that tab or restart it or whatever.

Then, nothing else out there even is remotely in the realm of me liking it.

Why can't there just be something that is, perfect, and works? Or at least have a real way of giving feedback to make things even more perfect? I mean with every browser I have tried, after one week, I came up with AT LEAST 10 major things that should be changed about the browser that would make it just phenomenal all across the board for users of any skill level.

I should probably start selling myself as a one-man think tank. XD

[Tripredacus]

Does anyone even know of like an actual Mozilla board where there are Firefox users who are pros at everything to do with it or something?

They seem to have more forums that you can imagine! I found a list of them here:

http://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/

[anathematized1]

Does anyone even know of like an actual Mozilla board where there are Firefox users who are pros at everything to do with it or something?

They seem to have more forums that you can imagine! I found a list of them here:

http://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/

How did you find that?

When I clicked the forums link (which to me implied a message board forum like this or that one you just linked), it took me to what it said was forums, but it wasn't, you had to choose a type of feedback, and what it was related to, then leave your statement of feedback, that other users couldn't respond to, only Mozilla Firefox would get it and then maybe you would get an answer back (and I'm not making up that maybe, they actually said MAYBE you will get an answer back).

O_o

Oh wait, it's not even a forum! It's a link to an off-site "newsgroup." >_<

Those are more annoying to use than Yahoo! Answers. '

Edited May 13, 2011 by anathematized1

[anathematized1]

And no surprise there, I come here to what appears to be a smaller community and get a response and help within 12 hours.

It's been a day and a half on the other place that appears to be a larger community and, no help, barely any views even.

Sometimes, I don't even know why I bother. *

I should just accept that everything that gets made will always be mediocre and have a bunch of things that to me would appear to be obvious things to be added in from the start that aren't there, and continue to not be there after 2... 3... 4... or more years and on, when I suggest them in all forums everywhere.

It's like companies only ask your feedback so they can look like they care. >_<

[allen2]

I think the forum of mozzila is there: http://forums.mozillazine.org/.

[anathematized1]

I think the forum of mozzila is there: http://forums.mozillazine.org/.

I'm almost 100% positive that's not an official website of the Mozilla corporation. It is very informative though.

I didn't realize they had a forum but I'll check that out. Thanks mate.