1 Extended Boot Sector Errors

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

I took a 30gb hard drive out of my dell inspiron 1200 that had windows XP on it.

I put it in my dell c600 latitude and installed Win98SE. Now when I run diskminder

I get the 1 Extended Boot Sector Errors.

Drive C: has 1 Error

16,384 Bytes Per Clusters

1,414,192 ( 1616Mb) Available Clusters

0 ( 0Mb) Bad Clusters

420 ( 6Mb) Clusters in 414 Directories

1,197 ( 18Mb) Clusters in 90 Hidden Files

414,703 ( 2383Mb) Clusters in 5497 User Files

0 Partition Table Errors

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0 File Allocation Table Errors

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0 Boot Sector Errors

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1 Extended Boot Sector Errors

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Minor Error 78 on Drive C: Extended Boot Sector information is out of sync

0 Compression Structure Errors

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0 Directory Errors

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0 File Errors

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Edited August 22, 2010 by PROBLEMCHYLD

[Multibooter]

I would first check the HDD with Partition Table Doctor v3.5, which might be able to fix the HDD if something is wrong with it.

As 2nd step I would run PartitonMagic v8.01 Build 1312 and see whether it loads without any error message. Finally (in the indicated sequence) I would run Norton Disk Doctor 2004 (standalone). If all 3 don't report any errors, it's a false positive by Disk Minder. I removed Nuts & Bolts from my computer a long time ago.

BTW, I would put the HDD into a USB enclosure/docking station and then check the HDD under Win98 with my main computer with the 3 programs, so no need to install the programs on the HDD to be checked.

Also, since Disk Minder/Nuts & Bolts is really old software, the message "1 Extended Boot Sector Errors" may be flagging something which may cause problems under Win95, but not under Win98/XP.

Edited August 22, 2010 by Multibooter

[jaclaz]

From "common sense" (not having the faintest idea what diskminder is or how it works ) it could be that the partition (which should be formatted with the FAT32 filesystem, from it's size) has the backup bootsector (sector 6) out of sync from the main one (sector 0).

http://thestarman.pcministry.com/asm/mbr/MSWIN41.htm

Just check them with any disk editor.

If you did NOT reformat the partition under WIN9x, and simply exchanged the previous bootsector invoking NTLDR with one invoking the IO.SYS (by using bootpart, or a similar utility, possibly even SYS.COM behaves like that ), the backup will still contain the "old" bootsector.

jaclaz

Edited August 22, 2010 by jaclaz

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

I ran Ranish Partition Manager and below is a bit map of whats going on.

Thanks for trying to help me.

Edited August 23, 2010 by PROBLEMCHYLD

[jaclaz]

With all due respect, doing this:

I ran Ranish Partition Manager and below is a bit map of whats going on.

after having been suggested to:

.....it could be that the partition (which should be formatted with the FAT32 filesystem, from it's size) has the backup bootsector (sector 6) out of sync from the main one (sector 0).

Just check them with any disk editor.

Sounds a lot like:

I closed the car's window and took a picture of it.

after:

If you feel a draft of cold air in your dining room, it is possible that you left your front door open. Check that your home's front door is closed.

Or:

I havent understood a word of what you posted, nor anything on the given link, or I completely decided to ignore it, so I ran a semi-random tool on a completely different part of the hard disk, and posted a screenshot of this latter part.

Let's start again from the basics, OK?

1. Do you know what a disk editor or viewer is?
   
2. Have you got one?
   If not get one from here:
   http://thestarman.pcministry.com/asm/mbr/BootToolsRefs.htm
   
3. You want a disk editor, NOT a partition manager.
   HXD is a disk editor (and runs on 9x also):
   http://mh-nexus.de/en/hxd/
   PTS is a disk editor and works in DOS:
   http://thestarman.pcministry.com/tool/de/PTS-DE.htm
   
4. Do you know what a bootsector is?
   
5. Do you know where you can find it on your disk?
   

jaclaz

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

Ok, ok jaclaz, the main thing to do is don't panic. Lol. I have downloaded the HXD disk editor. Now whats next.

[jaclaz]

Ok, ok jaclaz, the main thing to do is don't panic. Lol. I have downloaded the HXD disk editor. Now whats next.

First:

1. Try opening logical sector 63 of your physical hard disk or sector 0 of the logical drive.
   
2. Check that it's contents loosely resemble the one on the given page:
   http://thestarman.pcministry.com/asm/mbr/MSWIN41.htm
   (in other words check that you can read "FAT32" in it)
   
3. Select it's contents. (one sector)
   
4. Copy them.
   
5. Create a new file.
   
6. Paste to it the contents.
   
7. Save the file somewhere as "bootsector.dat"
   

Second:

1. Try opening sector 63+6=69 of your hard disk or sector 0+6=6 of the logical drive.
   
2. Check that it's contents loosely resemble the one on the given page:
   http://thestarman.pcministry.com/asm/mbr/MSWIN41.htm
   (in other words check that you can read "FAT32" in it)
   
3. Select it's contents. (one sector)
   
4. Copy them.
   
5. Create a new file.
   
6. Paste to it the contents.
   
7. Save the file somewhere as "backup_bootsector.dat"
   

Then:

1. Compare the two files "bootsector.dat" and "backup_bootsector.dat":
   
   • IF no differences are found, the message is related to something else
     
   • IF any difference is found the two sectors are "out of sync"
     

jaclaz

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

Jaclaz I compare the files and yes things are different.

I ran a program called testdisk and here is my problem.

I only have 1 hard drive in my laptop and no partition that I'm aware of.

So I don't understand why a drive the say NTFS is coming up.

Edited August 23, 2010 by PROBLEMCHYLD

[jaclaz]

I ran a program called testdisk and here is my problem.

WHY?

Meaning that your problem is that you ran it, most probably without knowing what you were doing and for NO apparent reason.

jaclaz

Edited August 23, 2010 by jaclaz

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

I ran a program called testdisk and here is my problem.

WHY?

Meaning that your problem is that you ran it, most probably without knowing what you were doing and for NO apparent reason.

jaclaz

Beacause I thought it would fix my problem. Thats what happens when you think

beacause apparently I don't know.

Ok I compared the 2 files whatever with HXD so what do I do now.

[jaclaz]

Ok I compared the 2 files whatever with HXD so what do I do now.

WHICH are the differences (like bootsector invokes IO.SYS and backup_bootsector invokes NTLDR, right?

(just to make sure that you actually got the right sectors) like bootsector near the end looking like:

7D7E                                            03 18                 ..
7D80  01 27 0D 0A 49 6E 76 61 6C 69 64 20 73 79 73 74   ....Invalid syst
7D90  65 6D 20 64 69 73 6B FF 0D 0A 44 69 73 6B 20 49   em disk...Disk I
7DA0  2F 4F 20 65 72 72 6F 72 FF 0D 0A 52 65 70 6C 61   /O error...Repla
7DB0  63 65 20 74 68 65 20 64 69 73 6B 2C 20 61 6E 64   ce the disk, and
7DC0  20 74 68 65 6E 20 70 72 65 73 73 20 61 6E 79 20    then press any 
7DD0  6B 65 79 0D 0A 00 00 00 49 4F 20 20 20 20 20 20   key.....IO      
7DE0  53 59 53 4D 53 44 4F 53 20 20 20 53 59 53 7E 01   SYSMSDOS   SYS~.
7DF0  00 57 49 4E 42 4F 4F 54 20 53 59 53 00 00 55 AA   .WINBOOT SYS..U.

and backup_bootsector looking like:

0170:  4E 54 4C 44 52 20 20 20 20 20 20 00 00 00 00 00  NTLDR      .....
 0180:  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
 0190:  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
 01A0:  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0D 0A 4E 54  ..............NT
 01B0:  4C 44 52 20 69 73 20 6D 69 73 73 69 6E 67 FF 0D  LDR is missing..
 01C0:  0A 44 69 73 6B 20 65 72 72 6F 72 FF 0D 0A 50 72  .Disk error...Pr
 01D0:  65 73 73 20 61 6E 79 20 6B 65 79 20 74 6F 20 72  ess any key to r
 01E0:  65 73 74 61 72 74 0D 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  estart..........
 01F0:  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 AC BF CC 00 00 55 AA  ..............U.

Then you access the disk with HxD, go to the bootsector (absolute 63, logical 0), copy it and paste it over the backup_bootsector (absolute 69, logical 6).

BE CAREFUL, you are accessing the disk directly!

jaclaz

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

Thanks jaclaz everything is working now. I really appreciate your help.

[jaclaz]

Good.

Another happy bunny in the basket:

http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=128727&st=10

jaclaz