anthonyaudi Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Hey guys I have a question. I have a complete unattended setup of Windows XP it installs all the updates including the dot netsAfter I would install this copy of windows I would go to Windows update and see 0 updates (This is as of January 13 2009)Today (January 28 2009) I went to Windows update and my Windows update detects a 248.4 MB update calledMicrosoft .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 and .NET Framework 3.5 Family Update (KB951847) x86now i googled the kb article and came up with a file called dotnetfx35 which is 231.x mb so it is significantly smaller than the one on the MS site.My question is what is this update can I just put it in my HF folder and it will do the rest (because I know that dot net is really picky and does not like to be installed via the HF folder)What do I do with my existing .net files from my original cd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonyaudi Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 Has anyone tried to install this update?do you just put it in your HF folder?I understand it is an update of all the dotnets available but it still comes up as a hotfix in windows update if you don't have this kb article installed.anyone have any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricktendo Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 One word will answer this: no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonyaudi Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 thats not a very helpful answer.Considering I had more than one question in my threadbut what I would like to know is if theres a way to get around this new KB thats out there?I currently am installing a new ISO of windowsI put it in the HF folder hfsvcpackhfguirunoncei will assume it has to work somewhere hehill report back with my findings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttwipe Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 (edited) The KB951847 update was released Jan. 27th. It is supposed to update all of the .NET installations.List of fixes:http://support.microsoft.com/kb/951847Go here to download the update:http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/sit...age=Search.aspxI downloaded it and installed it. Works fine so far. Edited January 28, 2009 by buttwipe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonyaudi Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 (edited) no the install works fine thats not a problem what i wanted to know is if we can integrate this in our unattended setupsso far i put it in the hfsvcpack folder (which i think is the folder that runs at t-13) it asks me to accept to install when i get to that pointi press i agreethen it crashesi get a setup errorso putting it in hfsvcpack stock right off the download link does not work unattendedp.s.that second link is not a direct download it just tells you to go download the hotfix on the windows update site. Edited January 28, 2009 by anthonyaudi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonyaudi Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 Ok I would need to know somethingthere is a file that I have here the current file i use to install the dot nets it is called netfxaio.exewhat I did was i extracted the new update that microsoft made and i extracted the netfxaio.exeI made the files look exactly the same so basiacally the netfxaio.exe is now the new kb951847my only problem is that if i double click on netfxaio.exe it silently installs the files(how would i repackage the extracted kb951847 to be a self installing file like the netfxaio.exe)i believe if i did that it would workalso netfxaio compress is 50mb when extracted it is 250what method is used here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttwipe Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Sorry about the second link. It is to the Windows Update Catalog service web site. You have to install an ActiveX addon to get to the site. Once there, search for 'KB951847' and then download the appropriate version to suite your needs.It is a 247MB download for XP x32. When you run it, it will stop to ask for 'approval' for the install. You can go to the root of your OS (typically c:\) and copy the folder typically labeled with a bunch, typically 15 to 20, of randon numbers and letters (Its in HEX). That is the extracted installer for the patch. I copied it to the desktop and removed any files and directories that were not related to x32. Trims it down to 86.2 MB. Leave the existing files and directories where they are. This has been tested on 4 separate computers and works. I haven't tried to add to a XP installation image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonyaudi Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 ya thats the thing I would like to know how to get it into an xp installation unattended.if not everytime you do windows update it asks you to dl this article and its 232 mb... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuMaGoNx Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 ummm, I think here at msfn someone has made a batch called "Silent .NET Maker synthesized"Are you sure havent see it?I tried myself. it similar to AIO but use different hacked 7z sfx that switchless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonyaudi Posted January 29, 2009 Author Share Posted January 29, 2009 i had tried it but i couldnt get it to work properly with hf slipi also have the previous 7z switchless version of the dotnet installer but now the new one came out and i dont think it has been made yet by anyone i would have to try the silent .net one to see if i can get it to work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamtheky Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 what about doing it from cmdlines at T-13 or from the runonce at the end with /quiet /norestart switches? Its not integrated, but the installation is still unattended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowFire Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 hi guys,does somebody know problems with this update and the AIDA software? my bro gets several problems after installing the .net update. something with the userrights. have somebody same or similar problems?greetzsnowfire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FusionFlyer Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 DON'T DO IT !!I have Vista Bus. x32 and have my notebook set to notify me about the updates. The only update was this oneKB951847 Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 and.NET Framework 3.5 Family Update x86.It seemed to load ok, said needs to reboot and put my notebook into an endless reboot loop to the Stage 3 installation-- went to 99% and rebooted, started over and over and over. I let it uns an hours#%($# Microsoft. Wish they would test these things.Now to go fix it - I am typing this on my VISTA x64 desktop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonyaudi Posted January 31, 2009 Author Share Posted January 31, 2009 (edited) Ok guys I'm just going to copy and paste my thread from ryanvm forumshttp://www.ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=89229#89229 <-- just incase anyone wants to go directly thereok after doing a little tinkering around i was finally able to get the new file on the first post to installi just renamed it to what the old file used to be called and just overwrote the fileso to be clear i renamed Stimpy_JD976_DotNetFX3.5SP1_Addon_v2.1.7z toDOTNETFX_ALL_IN_1_ADDON_V2.2and just overwrote the old DOTNETFX_ALL_IN_1_ADDON_V2.2 with the one i renamednow it works fine but windows update still detects the kb article 951847 as a 248mb hotfixhoweverif i choose to dl it it only downloads 16.8mbthe 3 files it downloads areNDP20SP2-KB958481-X86NDP30SP2-KB958483-X86NDP35SP1-KB958484-X86my question is now how can i get those files to install during my windows installation so when I go to windows update I don't have to install them?anyone know how to add these updates so we dont need to install them at windows update?I am currently trying to put them in the HF folder but I don't think that will work because they are dotnet service packs which I do not think will workanyone have any ideas?(maybe via guirunonce ((but i dont know what switches to use to make that work properly)) can anyone give me a little direction?)thanks! Edited January 31, 2009 by anthonyaudi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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