bengt66 Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 (edited) Hi,I'm not a wizard with computers but i do think this should not be a problem. What am I doing wrong? Trying to edit videos hangs if the file is not extremely small. I'm using XP professional X86. An old build without any service pack on it.I have been using several versions of nlite and I do get the same problem no matter how I do.It does not matter if i include only SP2 or fill up with several other programs and drivers.Last time I included SP3 with quite a lot of stuff, same problem.It does not matter if I install drivers for motherboard etc after installing or not.It does not seem to matter witch video editing tool I'm using. I've been downloading quite a few that are free to test. The one I usually use is Ulead VideoStudio 9 SE DVD.Everything else seems to be working, but I have not tried it out extensively.I'm getting a headache!!! This should not be a problem! Please help me getting this straightened out.I've been searching for logfiles of the creation, but does not seem to find any.It all works fine with the original disc though, but I will not be able to install on sata-2 disks (as far as I understand).Best regardsBengt Edited January 5, 2009 by bengt66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccl0 Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 what are you are doing with nlite that causes you to suspect that is the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnhc Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 bengt66, please attach (not paste) your Last Session.ini. Make sure you always start with a fresh copy of your CD files/folders, do all you work in one nLite session and integrate only one SP. What log files are you searching for? Enjoy, John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengt66 Posted January 5, 2009 Author Share Posted January 5, 2009 (edited) Hi,Well, since I get the problem only when I've created a new CD with nlite i suspect i'm doing something wrong. I have one installation running om my htpc, everything works except editing videos.I was hoping to find some errors generated in some logfile.Initially I have always used a clean (original) disk. This last time I obviously did not. Uploading a few last session, all fails the same way. I think I've tried how it should be done and what NOT to do! ;-)Best regardsBengtLast_Session.iniLast_Session__2008.07.11_15.57.44_.iniLast_Session__2008.07.11_16.11.35_.iniLast_Session__2008.07.20_18.54.38_.iniLast_Session__2008.12.23_19.50.00_.ini Edited January 5, 2009 by bengt66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnhc Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 bengt66, I seen nothing wrong in your Last Session.ini files. I really only looked at the first one since it is the only one running the latest version of nLite. Did you integrate more than just SP3? I know nothing about your AddOns and would suggest you try, from a fresh copy of your CD files/folders, one containing only SP3 and your hot fixes. See if this allows your video processing to work properly. If so, then add back in the AddOns till it fails. I hope you are testing under a virtual system (VirtualPC, VirtualBox, VMware Server - all free). Enjoy, John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipzap Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Quoting your Post./ Hi,I'm not a wizard with computers but i do think this should not be a problem. What am I doing wrong? Trying to edit videos hangs if the file is not extremely small. I'm using XP professional X86. An old build without any service pack on it.I have been using several versions of nlite and I do get the same problem no matter how I do.Reply. I note that you said that you are having problems without using NLite on it I assume ? So I would assume that it has nothing to do with NLite. Why I say that is I am having trouble capturing Video with a MPeg 4 capture card and freezes up intermittently and its worse with all programs added. I tried on computer without Nlite and with NLite and both had poor results. So I tried on computer with Nlite and bare minimum programs to get system up and running and worked best with this combination although wasnt perfect. Infact I had the Capture Card replaced for this and still much the same.So maybe im wrong. What are you using to capture your video or are you editing some downloaded source.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengt66 Posted January 5, 2009 Author Share Posted January 5, 2009 (edited) Hi,zipzap: On my HTPC i'm using Hauppauge pvr 350 to record tv-shows. It's these files I want to be able to edit correctly.On my other machine I have two separate OS partitions. One partition contain a clean install from an original XP SP0 CD. This installation is obviously updated to SP3. I'm testing nlite on the other partition. I'm sucessfully editing all video files on the first partition, but it fails when I install any XP that´s been nlitened! So on the very same machine video editing works fine if using the old CD, but not when I've used nlite.johnhc: No, i'm not using any virtual system, this is why i'm getting a headache!!! Witch one would you recommend using?I've tested quite a few different approaches: - Only SP2 - SP2 with hotfixes - SP2 with hotfixes and addons - Only SP3 - SP2 then adding SP3. - SP3 only - SP3 with a huge number of addons (including WMP11 and IE7) and DriverPacks. This took a DVD to burn...I do think I've tested a few more alternatives, but these are the ones I do remember. The result is always the same!!! I've been using nlite for about a year or two. Always the same problem... This is strange, I must do something wrong since i've had installations on a total of three (3) machines!!! Sometimes i retransfer my XP CD to harddrive so I know it is the original, but this does not change a thing.Best regardsBengt Edited January 5, 2009 by bengt66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccl0 Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 could it be possible that it has to do with the software for the Hauppauge pvr 350 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnhc Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 (edited) bengt66, I am using VMware Server since at the time it was the only reasonable one to support XP x64. Others here seem to like both VirtualBox and VirtualPC. If you have done all the experiments that you list, then I am really at a loss. That is, if you started with a fresh copy of your CD files/folders. Have you used Process Explorer to see why the video process hangs? Is your CPU 100%, or is there a file that is tied up? If you think there is a possibility that fresh files/folders were not used on your SP3 only build then try it again, especially if you start using a virtual system. Make sure you include only SP3. Enjoy, John.EDIT: I know of no log files from nLite - only the Last Session.ini. John. Edited January 6, 2009 by johnhc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponch Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Does it fail like "crash" or does it first crawl then give up ? Does the system hang as well or just the program ?You say you've tried it on 3 different systemes so you can rule out hardware problem ? I mean it's not always the same bit of the same harddisk that's used for that partition. Is the partition big enough ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipzap Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Hi Beng 66. Thanks for the info and appears you have eliminated everything else and NLite looks a suspect. Maybe you could try one of the alternative slipstreaming programs you are comfortable with.Unsure how good they are. Like. http://www.petri.co.il/windows_2000_xp_sp_slipstreaming.htm etc.And a number of others to prove if it is NLite.Yes MPEG capture cards can be tricky to get right at times. Sorry I cant be of much help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengt66 Posted January 10, 2009 Author Share Posted January 10, 2009 (edited) Hi All,Now I have tested with VirtualBox. My testing machine only has 512 MB memory, so i expected my problems with VirtualBox was due to that. So I switched to my htpc, 2 gig om memory.I tested the latest images from nlite and they failed even to install! Or should I say, they looked to install correctly but failed to start up afterwards. It seems to hang on "loading personal settings".So i tried with Ubuntu (Linux), this installed nicely. Now I've downloaded all files and reinstalled nlite.I created a new image without slipstreaming. That is I added nothing! This installed as it should on VirtualBox. The only thing I changed in the settings was personal information (serial number etc...).Then I slipstreamed SP3 and used the same settings. This image failed to install correctly. This also hanged at startup on "loading personal settings"! Nothing else then SP3 was included.I should have enough space. The last video file I tried to edit is about 2 gig in size. My system disk has about 7 gig free... Earlier on I've used temporary disks with a lot more free space.Earlier when I tried to edit a video file, the program just stops working. It did not respond. My CPU is almost idle! It just stopped executing! I don't expect it to be the disks that's the problem. I've set temporary to different partitions just to test. No change!I'm not supposed to need SP1 or SP2. But microsofts homepage states: "System RequirementsSupported Operating Systems: Windows XP Home Edition ; Windows XP Professional Edition ; Windows XP Service Pack 1; Windows XP Service Pack 2"Does this mean I need either SP1 or SP2 to make it work? Even though I've earlier tried to apply SP2 then SP3???And I'm using an English version of XP pro and SP3.I'll check on other slipstreaming programs, but I would like to get nlite to work!Any other idea?Best regardsBengt Edited January 10, 2009 by bengt66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnhc Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 bengt66, the quoted information from MS is for running systems. Many people here have stated that even RTM (Release To Manufacturing) with no SPs worked fine after adding only SP3. I don't know if you are really starting with a fresh source. Please start with a fresh copy of your source CD, then slipstream SP3 and do nothing else except create an ISO and see if that works. Enjoy, John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengt66 Posted January 10, 2009 Author Share Posted January 10, 2009 Johnhc,I've almost always started from a fresh copy of the CD. But to be on the completely safe side i've let nlite do the copying from the CD. This takes a little more time, but just to make sure.Now i've tested with SP3 and nothing other done. No settings or nothing... This seems to work! I've never succeded in editing a 2 gig file from an nlited installation before. I'll check to se when it starts to fail again. If it fails... Now I suspect something in the unattended page, I'll get back to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengt66 Posted February 6, 2009 Author Share Posted February 6, 2009 Hi,I've checked as much as I can think of. - The CD had a small scratch so i bought a CD restore/clean device. Original CD is now as nice as new. (it was not so bad.)- I'm using nlite to copy to HDD.- I think I can rule out settings pages as the bandit in this.One thing to check is to see if SP3 is correctly downloaded. Is it possible to check this in any way? Some kind of checksum???Bengt66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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