nmX.Memnoch Posted September 22, 2007 Posted September 22, 2007 (edited) Some of you have seen me mention Asus' lack of AHCI support on the P5K series of motherboards...specifically those that don't use the ICH9R southbridge. Well...Intel has finally put some information on their site as to why those boards don't have AHCI support.ICH9, ICH8, ICH7 and ICH6-based chipsets, as well as ICH5 and ICH5R-based chipsets, do not use AHCI.Moral of the story? If you want full AHCI support for your SATA devices on an Intel southbridge, get one that uses the RAID version of the southbridge even if you aren't going to use the RAID functions. If you're wondering what AHCI gives you...without it you won't have support for NCQ or Hot Plug features. There are other features, but those are the two most used features. Edited September 22, 2007 by nmX.Memnoch
ripken204 Posted September 22, 2007 Posted September 22, 2007 yep, and i have the raid one and it does have AHCI.
puntoMX Posted September 22, 2007 Posted September 22, 2007 Thank you nmX.Memnoch, as you can see it wasn’t ASUS his fault, and I posted that many time before.Again, thank you for the tip, this info is very welcome for ANY one who wants a new iNTEL based system with FSB of 1333MHz / 45nm CPU die.
nmX.Memnoch Posted September 22, 2007 Author Posted September 22, 2007 Well...unfortunately it took an outcry from the community to get something added on Intel's site. From what I've read (and I'll admit I have no first-hand knowledge or on-hands experience with it) many of the other tier-1 motherboard OEM's that have P35/ICH9 based motherboards (without RAID) have AHCI support in their BIOSes. I know that we have some Dell OptiPlex GX520 machines at work that have the AHCI option in the BIOS...and they don't have onboard RAID.To be honest I'm still not sure exactly what to believe, but it's right there in black and white on Intel's site...and it is their chipset after all.
puntoMX Posted September 22, 2007 Posted September 22, 2007 I know that the P5K without RAID supports NCQ for example... But you are right, something IS fishy here...
nmX.Memnoch Posted September 23, 2007 Author Posted September 23, 2007 (edited) I know that the P5K without RAID supports NCQ for example...No, it doesn't. Asus removed the AHCI option three or four BIOS revisions back. Their stated reason for this is that ICH9 doesn't support AHCI. And according to the link I posted above, they're right. Since NCQ is a feature of AHCI, there is no NCQ support without AHCI support.Native Command Queuing (NCQ) is a feature supported by Advanced Host Controller Interface (AHCI). It allows ATA drives to accept more than one command at a time and dynamically reorder the commands for maximum efficiency. NCQ, when used in conjunction with a hard drive that supports NCQ, can increase storage performance on random workloads.In order to take advantage of NCQ, you need:Intel® Matrix Storage Technology softwareHard drive(s) that supports NCQIntel® chipsets using a controller hub that supports AHCI Edited September 24, 2007 by nmX.Memnoch
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