ripken204's new comp - build progress

[jcarle]

as for mobo, yes i realize that there are problems but it is still a great board. i know that x38 is coming out in a month but i wanted to get a comp built this summer, the school year is extremely busy for me.

I also would have suggested another board from the P5K series. The P5B series is still known to be one of the best overclocking boards there is. The only thing you'd be giving up is DDR3 support, but the advances of that in the near future are somewhat negligible (it's the old latency vs clocks argument all over again).

and i could care less about ddr3 support right now, it's going to take a while for that to mature and to be available at a reasonable price.

P5K ... problem board.

Only difference between that and P5B ... DDR3.

You don't care about DDR3.

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[ripken204]

i dont even see where DDR3 came from?

the P5K is DDR2 and the P5K3 is DDR3.

[jcarle]

i dont even see where DDR3 came from?

the P5K is DDR2 and the P5K3 is DDR3.

Okay, even more reason. Why would you WANT to go with a board with problems?

[ripken204]

can you please list the problems that you speak of? there were problems with the deluxe version that had been addressed and fixes in the premium version..

[jcarle]

Umm... http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=p5k+problems

Oh and let's not forget, even if things get fixed on a certain revision of the PCB, it doesn't mean you'll get that revision. A lot of times stock will sit in warehouses a long time before it ever reaches a customer, meaning the board you get could have been produced several months ago in a period before new revisions and fixes.

Edited August 16, 2007 by jcarle

[ripken204]

i'm not talking about revisions, i'm talking about a new model. i ordered the premium and that is what im getting.

Edited August 16, 2007 by ripken204

[Zxian]

The Premium isn't a newer model of the P5K series - it's another model, just like the P5K3 is another model, just like the P5K Deluxe is another model. The entire P5 lineup from ASUS is built on top of the P35 or G33 chipset - but they're all variations on a theme.

The problem that people are running into is the fact that the P5K series is essentially the first generation of new hardware. As with any new device - there will be initial problems that you hadn't tested for. The P5B series has been out for a while, is still as futureproof as you need it to be (aside from DDR3 support), and will give you far less problems.

You tend to be a "first-adopter" of hardware, and I'm guessing that you've been lucky so far. If you didn't work with PCs, but instead dealt with Apple computers, you'd learn very quickly never to be the first to buy the brand new product. Apple has one of the worst reputations when it comes to first-gen hardware (iPod, iMac, Macbook, etc...) in terms of reliability, stability, and so forth. The rest of the computer market isn't exempt from that rule either - at least not in my books.

What jcarle and I are trying to say is that by getting the P5B instead of the P5K, you'd be loosing nothing, and gaining a lot.

EDIT - To answer your question about RAID - no. Just use the onboard Intel Matrix RAID for your setup. You have no need for a separate controller.

[ripken204]

i wouldnt call myself a first adopter by any means. the mobo is about it from the list of hardware i have up there.

cpu was in january, gfx card last year, psu no clue but its been out a while..

anyways, more stuff just arrived from UPS but i gotta head out for a few hrs

[nmX.Memnoch]

as for RAID now, should i get myself a controller?

Did you even look at the specs of the motherboard when you ordered it?

EDIT - To answer your question about RAID - no. Just use the onboard Intel Matrix RAID for your setup. You have no need for a separate controller.

There's your answer. You already have a good onboard RAID solution so you don't need to order a controller.

[ripken204]

as for RAID now, should i get myself a controller?

Did you even look at the specs of the motherboard when you ordered it?

EDIT - To answer your question about RAID - no. Just use the onboard Intel Matrix RAID for your setup. You have no need for a separate controller.

There's your answer. You already have a good onboard RAID solution so you don't need to order a controller.

i know my mobo has raid, lol. i was asking if i should spend the money to get a dedicated controller instead of using the motherboard's controller. you say mine is good, it better be for that price, thx.

Edited August 17, 2007 by ripken204

[Zxian]

Dedicated controllers only add benefit for RAID5 or RAID6 functions. RAID0 and RAID1 take up pretty much no extra overhead on your system resources, so you wouldn't see any advantage for your setup.

[ripken204]

mobo:

http://brian.thenextbyte.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=117

ram:

http://brian.thenextbyte.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=92

psu:

http://brian.thenextbyte.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=48

dvd drive:

http://brian.thenextbyte.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=87

[RJM]

ripken204,

What are you getting for CPU cooling?

All I saw was that in your second post you mentioned somthing about water.

[ripken204]

for now stock cooling, i will eventually get some water cooling.

[RJM]

Well watch your temp's when you overclock, the Q6600 has a TDP of 105 W vs the E6600 I have with a TDP of 65 W.

With my overclock to 3.4GHZ I'm just about at you stock TDP and with my Scythe Infinity with dual 84 cfm fans running full speed

my cores idle at 48ºC, 55º gaming and 60º TAT 15 minutes.

Oops, now I see - G0 stepping TDP of only 95W.

Edited August 17, 2007 by RJM