People who've read the HFSLIP code probably know this by now, but here it is in plain English... HFSLIP does not slipstream the following updates; they are placed in the SOURCESS\I386\SVCPACK folder with a shorter name, and installed silently at T-13 during Windows setup. This is also the reason why they may appear in the Add/Remove Programs dialog. Windows-KB890830-Vx.xx.exe (Malicious Software Removal Tool) [All] UPHClean-Setup.msi (User Profile Hive Cleanup Service) [All] (installed at first logon with Win2K) Windows2000-KB917008-x86-ENU.EXE (Vulnerability in MS Management Console) [2K] MDAC_TYP.EXE (MDAC 2.8 SP1) [2K-XP] (installed at first logon) MDAC281-KB911562-x86-ENU.exe (hotfix for MDAC 2.8 SP1) [2K-XP] (installed at first logon) Windows-KB913433-x86-ENU.exe (Vulnerability in Flash Player 5/6) [XP] HMTCDWizard_enu.exe (HighMAT support for the CD Writing Wizard) [XP] wmcsetup.exe (Windows Media Connect 2.0) [XP] ENU_Q832483_MDAC_x86.EXE (Buffer overrun in an MDAC function) [XPSP1] WindowsXP-KB840374-x86-ENU.EXE (Vulnerability in Help and Support Center) [XPSP1] KB914798-v2 (Vulnerability in Windows Services DACLs) [XPSP1-2K3Gold]