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If you clean that CPU, it will work totally fine.. As I have already written.. You can search for forums with subjects of Evaporator cooler and how to isolate the CPU in goop.. I'm sure he used it like that with a non-conductive termal material, and just wants to upgrade his system.. I whould buy the CPU and clean it!

I have a Cieftech case, and it has removable trays with fans like that CoolerMaster one, but with no filter.. So my HDD's are also soked in dense dust!

Ok, thanks a lot for the info.. But isnt mobile CPU for notebooks? What is the CPU name, brand, numbers? I just got very intrested in this.. Also found this site.. Edit: I'm getting sick.. Ill.. This is something I GOT to be part of..! _____________ OCZ Platinum Edition Revision 2 PC-3200 memory has been designed for ultra-low latency operation on Intel Pentium 4 and AMD AthlonXP/Athlon 64 platforms. OCZ Platinum Edition PC-3200 memory is able to reach latencies as low as CL 2-2-2-5. OCZ PC-3200 products are 100% hand-tested to ensure compliance with stringent quality standards. In addition, every 1GB Dual Channel Kit from OCZ is hand tested as a matched pair across a wide variety of motherboards to ensure flawless performance on most motherboards. Each OCZ Platinum Edition Revision 2 module also comes with a high quality copper heat spreader with a platinum mirrored finish. OCZ Platinum Edition memory modules are rated to handle up to 2.9V without invalidating the OCZ Lifetime Warranty so that performance enthusiasts can tweak their systems without worry.

Ok, but on the graficks card I get very dense dust.. I'm having trouble removing it..

Doh.. I have overclocked it before.. So it can't be locked.. Or is that to a sertain multiplier that it is locked? And is there a easy way to unlock it? And will 200 FSB work? What if the Multiplier is still 11 when setting FSB to 200 (400).. Edit: And how does your Motherboard support 540 FSB (270x2)? Or does only the RAM ratio FSB count?

This may differ from MoBo to MoBo, but it's most common that the Primary master is a HDD in the end of the IDE cable (gray end socket).. Then the Primary Slave on the same cable (middle socket).. This cable is then connected to IDE1 on the MoBo.. Next cable has lets say 2 CD-ROMs.. Secondary Master in the end of cable (gray socket).. And secondary Slave on the same cable (middle socket).. This cable is then connected to IDE2 on the MoBo.. And remember to set the jumpers right.. If Master, set it to master.. If Slave, set it to slave.. This may not be correct for your MoBo, but whould most common be the best way to fit it.. Both thinking about the location of the drives in the case and cable length, and that you shouldnt have a CD-ROM and HDD on the same cable.. If you try to burn a DVD with HDD and DVD-ROM on the same cable, it will cause a very slow data transfering speed.. And after all is well.. Be sure DMA is turned on.. The Floppy drive is not an IDE device.. It's a it uses FDC1 cable, and the red line on the ribbon cable must be aligned with pin-1 on both the FDC1 port (on MoBo) and the floppy connector.. And remember.. Use a BOOT-able CD when trying to BOOT with CD.. Also, try changing the BOOT order like this: 1 Floppy Drive 2 CD-ROM 3 Hard Disc Drive

Yeah, it's AGP 8x though.. And Sapphire is good.. ASUS to, but I don't grow mony on trees..

Does enybody know of a good way to prevent dust to inhabitate the computers periphrals? Eny good dust-filers or? I have one fan-filter, but half of the filter is tuching the fan blades, lol.. They came in a mount, but I had to disassemble it cause it was no space for it..

Darn, I can't find eny leaking Caps.. Tsk tsk.. What now? Edit: This is the Topic by the way.. http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=51536

I will forever stick to ATI even if the company closes.. Then 10 years from now I will have a ATI card with an old MoBo to make it work.. I refuse to use eny GeForce crap!

If you use a evaporator cooler (compressor, similar to the heat-pump in a refridgerator), then you will need to cover the whole CPU in something that does not lead electrisity to prevent condensation under the CPU.. A peltier module may also need condensation prevention.. He should have cleaned it before selling it.. If you install it with termal material on.. It may cause bad conductivity to the pins and it will smudge termal material in the socket to.. Wich is very hard to clean.. Edit: And remember, do not eat or drink when tuching termal compound.. It's toxic.. Clean hands very good after tuching it!

It's not FBS, and not fsb, it's FSB (Front Side Bus).. He he, I know I'm a stupid a** trying to correct people... Tsk tsk.. Most Motherboards do support low external clock settings even on new MoBo's if the CPU has same socket and supports the Technology.. If the CPU is a Athlon XP and the Motherboard supports for instance Athlon, Duron, Athlon XP.. Then it should support the speed of the CPU.. But you will easily find that out if you enter BIOS and try to set the FSB at the value needed.. If the CPU supports 266MHz FSB, then you will have to set the external clock speed in BIOS to 133.. Even my newest MoBo supports 400/333/266, but it don't support eny CPU with that low FSB.. You chould ofcause run a 400 FSB CPU at 266, but whats the point in doing that? The AMD Sempron 2600+ / 1.83 GHz runs at 333MHz was the lowest I found, and it's not supported by this MoBo.. There might also exsist MoBo producers making MoBo's that don't support very slow FSB, but when it say 400/333MHz on the package, then thats usualy for comersial reasons.. Like this MoBo supports as fast as 400 FSB.. It may also support slower FSB's.. - Abit AN8 Ultra! CPU Supports AMD Socket 939 Athlon 64/64FX & Athlon 64 X2 dual-core Processors with 2GHz system bus using Hyper Transport™ technology Supports AMD CPU Cool 'n' Quiet Technology Chipset NVIDIA NF4 Ultra single chip Integrated NV Gigabit Ethernet and NV Firewall Memory Four 184-pin DIMM sockets Support 4 DIMM Dual DDR 400/333/266 non-ECC memory Support 4 DIMM up to 4GB Max. Edit: But please tell me the name of the CPU and Motherboard + aditional info.. And I will soon post a reply if the MoBo supports it or not..!

I have my old Abit NF7-S v2.0 here, and wondering how I overclocked the 2500+ CPU.. I know I'v done it before, but when I now set user defined settings, the MoBo just ignores them and uses default 2500+ multiplier factor.. The external clock is set to 166MHz.. (FSB) And the multiplier factor is set to 11.. That gives the CPU a speed of 1.833MHz wich is it's default.. I tried to increase the multiplier factor to 12, but when I BOOT, it just ignores that setting.. There is one option called CPU Interface wich I set to Enable.. That means overclocking setting activated.. I tried to Disable it to, to see if it did eny diffrence with no result.. Do I have to increase the FSB? I have a 400 FSB supported card, so maybe setting it to 200 external clock and set the memory ratio to 1/1? Then it will run at 200 x2 FSB, right? Edit: Searching for my old cards manual...

Hi Zxian.. I think I wrecked the Chipset on a MoBo once caused by to high FSB, but that was because I put it higher then the MoBo can handle.. At least I think that was the problem, I may be wrong... And I know that if you set your multiplyer to high, you might trash/fry the CPU.. This also applys to new MoBo's with temp. shutdown.. Extreme values will fry the CPU even with protection.. And if you don't belive it, you can buy a brand new MoBo and look in the Manual.. "Wrong settings may damage your hardware" I'm happy to see you are supporting both Seagate's HDD's and Opera 8, the fastest Browser on Earth.. A note to the grafics-card brand.. I whould get a ATI card.. I don't support those GeForce people.. Edit: And by the way, with that kind of memory set, you wont be able to run Dual Channel DDR.. And I just found a manual from a brand new Abit AN8 UltraMoBo:

I understands this needs a post refresh/update.. : Ok.. Here we go..! I have buildt a Computer looking like this: And this Chieftec case contains the following: Abit AN8 Ultra, nForce4 Ultra, Socket-939, ATX, S-ATA, BbLAN, Firewire, PCI-Ex16. AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.0GHz Socket-939, 512KB, Boxed with fan. TwinMOS PC3200 DDR-DIMM 1024MB Dual Pack Kit w/two matched PC3200 CL2.5 DDR's. Seagate Barracuda 7200.8 250GB IDE ATA/100 8MB 7200RPM. Sapphire Radeon X700PRO 256MB GDDR3 PCI-Express,Tv-Out, DVI-I, Full-Retail PSU: NorthQ 4775 ATX 400W Silent, 140mm fan, 12-17dBA, 20/24pin. Case also have 2 PAPST fans installed.. Airflow is great.. Temp.'s are great (below 40'C CPU).. ______________________________ I installed WinXP and used the computer for a day or so, then I installed uGuru, and problems occured.. The computer crashed after installing uGuru so I Cleared the CMOS and Un-installed uGuru.. The manual says something about installing nVidia IDE driver wich I'v not done (not uGuru manual).. Then the computer worked for some time, but after one more day of use or so, the WinXP OS started making trouble.. Missing config.sys file on BOOT and so on (though it might be a virus).. So I re-installed WinXP again after formatting, then everything seemd ok.. But after a short time of use the computer started to freeze and re-BOOT often.. And now it's almost hopeless to make it BOOT at all.. I get passed the BIOS info screen, then Freeze! Sometimes I can see WinXP loading screen before it freezes.. So, now I wonder.. What is the problem? The MoBo? Cause I can't find eny reson why it should be enything else.. But my experience in this is to low to state a sertain failure..! I did also Clear CMOS once while PSU was turned on.. Red led on MoBo lighted (computer was not running).. I dunno if this can cause the MoBo to fail.. ________________________________ Edit: This is the case I'm working on now by the way.. : Sorry for poor image qality, I have no dig.-cam. now, so I rented my dude's cell-phone cam.

Heat is not the problem, the comp. I use myself is a 1 year old Abit NF7-S v2.0 - AMD Athlon XP 2500+ overclocked mounted with a copper-block connecteed to a superconductor heat-pipe cooler with airflow through it, and my current CPU temp. on this comp. is above 68'C (I know this isn't healthy but it's for limited time only.. This comp. works very good), and the comp. I'm building has a stable temp. of 40'C, so the temp. can't be the problem and the PSU is NOT the problem.. The memory is the same as I use on my own comp. but I chould ofcause finish my next other comp. with exactly the same parts and see if I get the same problem! Wich I don't think I do.. I also got some tip on leaking capacitors, but didnt find eny visible leak.. But the problem fit mine very good.. I'll mount the new case now.. : P But the comp. I posted here for, was working perfectly fine for some time.. Until it started crashing/rebooting/freezing more and more.. So it takes time to find out if it happens to the next comp. I'm building.. lol, I just saw on a Norwegian professional OC-forum and test-lab that +12V line on a PSU don't need more then 18 Ampére to run computer + Vapochill.. : p Also found this.. Don't look at wattage so much as the quality of the power supply. A good 300w power supply owns all the crap 400w PSUs you see for under $50. Of course a good 400w power supply isn't going to hurt, but go for quality over "quantity". BTW my fastest system uses a 250w power supply. That's right, 250 watts. It's because it is a real 250w power supply and not one of these fake 400w ones. It's not overclocked, it has 1gb ram, HD, CD, 9600 w/ 256mb, all the normal stuff. It works fine. He did also say that MIST is a very good PSU and thats what I use on my own comp. 400W

Funny, just found this text on this site: I received a computer to fix from a friend. The symptoms were common with a hardware problem: Turns on every time, but freeze after 15 seconds of use (usually at windows boot-up). I opened the case and took one good look at the motherboard; sure enough, leaking capacitors: It's with images and all.. Fits my problem 100% But still don't know if this is my problem..

Sorry, must have been misinformed.. I first thought is was 8, but then some dude stated it was 8.2.. So I thank you for clearing that up.. IBM is also a very bad HDD by the way.. I buyght one once, and it lasted 1 month, after that.. No IBM ever.. And Powercolor is not accseptable.. It also lasts very short.. And now.. I was wondering.. Has enyone else had problems with theyr Abit Chipset coolercans on the MoBo's? I have had 4 MoBo's from Abit my self so far, and all of them used the same fan.. Old and new MoBo's.. And on all of them the fan lasted max. 6 months before making weird sound and then stop running at all.. Thats why I bought Abit AN8 Ultra, because it has no fan at all.. Just a heat-pipe from the Chipset to a cooler placed where you usualy have your COM ports and alike behind the comp. But this MoBo seems to not work at all.. That surely may be my fault though.. ________________________ And now I'm just wondering: Always when I make partitions on a HDD is leaves 8MB as unpartitioned space? For what reason is that?

Bla bla.. NQ4775-400WATT Ultra Silent PSU The NQ-4775 is the brand new series of Ultra Silent PSU products with the NorthQ name on the side. The NQ-4775 is the first model with a huge and ultra silent 140mm crystal clear fan installed. The fan is produced with the well know ceramic ball bearing, that gives 300.000 hours of lifetime. The 140mm crystal clear fan gives massive airflow with very low rotation speed and noise level between 12 – 17dB. The new and huge fan is one of more special features of the new NorthQ PSU. ATX 2.0 is the next feature of the model, that gives a powerful and extreme stabile 12v lines for the products because 2 x 12v rails is working together with a higher output as result. The ATX 2.0 system utilizes the new 24pin ATX connection, which is standard on the latest generation of motherboards. Also included is a 24-20pin converter to ensure that the PSU is compatible with regular ATX motherboards. NQ-4775 is also equipped with the new 75Watt PCI-Express line for the top line of PCI-Express graphic cards on the marked. All the cables on the NQ-4775 is equipped with black cable sleeving, and with total of 4 x S-ATA plugs, 7 x Molex plugs ,2 x Molex for floppy, PCI-Express, P4 Extension and finally the 24 pin ATX for motherboard. All the cables have been extended with 10cm to a total length of 60cm from the base of PSU to the last plug on the longest rail. The P4 extension is only 40cm long. The new NQ-4775 gives a combination of extreme power and stability combined with the essence of pure silence in low and medium load. Specifications : Voltage : 230Vac(180-264) Frequency : 47Hz-63Hz Current : 4.0A(MAX.) At 230Vac Inrush Current : 70A at 230Vac cold start at 25° Efficiency : 65%MIN.at Full load - 55%MIN.at 30W load Voltage +3.3V +5V +12V1 +12V2 -5V -12V +5Vsb Max Load 30A 28A 14A* 15A* 0.5A 0.5A 2.0A Min Load 0.5A 2.0A 0.5A 0.5A 0A 0A 0A * Combined output on +12V1 and +12V2 : 29A Output Watts : 400W - +5v. +3.3v. : 130W Over Voltage : +5V:6.8V,+3.3V:4.5V,+12V:15.6V Short Circuit : All output to GND Cable configuration: 1 x 24/20pin ATX cable 1 x 4pin motherboard extension cable 1 x 6pin PCi-express cable 4 x S-ATA plug on 2 cables (2 on each cable) 7 x Molex plug on 2 cables (4 and 3 on cables) 2 x Floppy plug on 2 cables (1 on each cable) Total of 7 cables from Power Supply Key info : Standard ATX 400Watt PSU ATX 2.0 standard Passive PFC 24-pin ATX extension 140mm crystal clear fan installed Fan speed control function inside Noise : 12 - 17db noise level. Full cable sleeving 4 * S-ATA lines 75Watt PCI-Express line Cables extended with 10cm to full 60cm and 40cm for the P4 extension 20-24pin converter for new motherboards. Titanium coated Lifetime : 50,000 hours at 25° Dimension:175*86*140mm(W*H*L) Is it ok with the info of the PSU now? Combined output on +12V1 and +12V2 : 29A What the *? is that 29A?? Amp? 29 x 12 = 328W? So you mean you need more then 30A on a 400W PSU? What whould the other connectors get the power from then? I currently have another comp. with 4 HDD's, 2 DVD-ROM's, Powerful AGPx8 graficscard with extra 4-pin power connector and heat-pipe-cooler (weight 1kg), CPU. RAM, Grafics-card is overclocked.. Is also have 7 powerful Delta fan's 100 3m/hour airflow (sounds like a dustbuster/vaacumer) and it got 2 cold cathode lamps.. I use a Mist 360W PSU if I'm not wrong.. It works perfectly fine.. The new comp. I buildt has 1 HDD, 1 DVD-ROM and PCI Express x16 graficscard with no extra 4-pin powerconnector and this comp. has 2 fans (ultra silent).. Ofcause there chould be something with this new comp. that makes it use lots of power.. But still.. : P I think it might be the MoBo, what do you guys think? I need help.. This is the 3rd time I build a comp. and this one is just mmessy.. : P I also started building a new one today.. I put together a SunBeam Acrylic Case.. Looks nice with no components in it..

NorthQ Powersupply 4775 ATX 400W.. Silent, 140mm Fan, 12-17 dBA, 24-pin.. Edit: I can't use WinXP, so I can't install drivers.. And there are one Driver mentioned in the manual called NVidia ATA driver or something.. But chould not installing it, hurt the MoBo? I have to install WinXP to install that driver to, and that was the way to do it in the manual to.. I had XP working for some hours, but then the computer started to Freeze/reboot.. And now I can't install before it freezes.. And I now recall that everything about Freeze/crash started after I installed uGuru on-the-fly-overclocking drivers that follows with the MoBo.. I then un-installed it, and cleared CMOS, but crashes keept coming..

Motherboard: Abit AN8 Ultra, nForce4 Ultra,Socket-939 ATX, S-ATA, GbLAN, Firewire, PCI-Ex16 CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.0GHz Socket 939, 512KB, BOXED with fan DDR-RAM: TwinMOS PC3200 DDR-DIMM 1024MB Dual Pack Kit w/two matched PC3200 CL2.5 DDRs Graffics-card: Sapphire Radeon X700PRO 128MB GDDR3 PCI-Express,Tv-Out, DVI-I, Lite-Retail HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.8 250GB IDE ATA/100 8MB 7200RPM ANd I used ATA-100 since I hate S-ATA connectors.. They break easily.. Edit: And a qality PSU working correctly..

I whould get SeaGate Barracuda 250GB HDD SeaGate have dataprotection system and Maxtor's discs are like a mudcrab to SeaGate, I know a guy who had a External Maxtor 300GB disc, it was totally wreck after 2 months.. And he used it very carfully.. I still have SeaGate discs 12 years old working today.. Don't use them much ofcause, as the need for space arises.. Edit: Hmm.. I think the discs are as big as the say, but the Operating System AND most of all, the filesystem let some bits here and there to waste.. NTFS takes some of the disc space I think.. To make indexing.. Fat32 takes some cause it's very fat.. And there is also a diffrence in bits and stuff.. One binary Kilo byte is 1024 bytes, and not 1000 bytes like Kilo stands for.. I dunno how this is with HDD's but RAM memory is measured in binary.. 1GB RAM is 1024MB.. And back to that filesystem thing again.. If you look at Properties for a folder containing 84,5MB in Windows, It will look like this: Size: 84,5 MB (88 621 101 bytes) Size on disc: 84,5 MB (88 645 632 bytes) And that size on disc is bigger because of the filesystem.. And that makes the disc look smaller.. So it's actualy Microsoft's fault.. 8.2 bits = 1 Byte KB = 1 kilo bytes Kb = 1 kilo bits 1 K = 1.000 1M = 1.000.000 1G = 1.000.000.000 1T = 1.000.000.000.000 So when you say: Buy one kilo sugar! Then you actualy say: Buy 1000 sugar grains.. You have to add grams.. 1Kg sugar = 1000 gram's of sugar.. Whouldnt it be cool walking in a store asking for 1 Terra grams of sugar? It also may be that the size is a bit smaller from companies.. I don't know, but I know the filesystem is stealing some.. _____________________________________ I also need some help.. Check out my post here!

Ok, I'v buildt a computer with AN8 Ultra Motherboard, everything seems ok, but the computer freezes a short time after reboot.. The first time I powered on, I installed WinXP and all was well, but after some hours of use, the comp started to crash/reboot/freeze.. I have formatted it and copyed files several times, but after it reeboots and loads the setup, the PC crashes.. I have no problem running setup from BOOT-CD, it's when the setup starts to install from the hard drive disc that it makes truble.. I'm not 100% well at writing english, but hoping to get a helpful reply very soon.. I know the PSU works, and the DVD-RAM and HDD works.. Or else I chouldnt have copyed the files, right? And that also means the DDR-RAM and CPU also works? So it's the MoBo then?? I have tryed diffrent BIOS settings and Cleared CMOS several times.. Edit: That Avatar (picture) of a computer there is not the computer I'm building here.. I have more then one comps.