Honnes

Hello all, I configured and started a WSUS (Windows Services Update Server) for our network here, but ive got this tiny problem... I configured everything correct, auto update via the server works, but well, i dont want to change all settings 300 times before all the computers are updated. (ps: its a school network with hd protect cards in it) I created myself a batch file which should enable and disable the windows update service. A little bit of the content REG DELETE "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\Auto Update" /F REG ADD "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\Auto Update" /v "AUOptions" /t "REG_DWORD" /d "00000002" REG ADD "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\Auto Update" /v "ConfigVer" /t "REG_DWORD" /d "00000001" REG ADD "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\Auto Update" /v "ResetAU" /t "REG_DWORD" /d "00000001" REG ADD "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\Auto Update" /v "ScheduledInstallDay" /t "REG_DWORD" /d "00000000" REG ADD "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\Auto Update" /v "ScheduledInstallTime" /t "REG_DWORD" /d "00000003" REG ADD "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\Auto Update" /v "NextDetectionTime" /t "REG_SZ" /d "2006-02-24 08:34:13" WUAUCLT.EXE /DETECTNOW PAUSE REG DELETE "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\Auto Update" /F REG ADD "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\Auto Update" /v "AUOptions" /t "REG_DWORD" /d "00000001" REG ADD "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\Auto Update" /v "ConfigVer" /t "REG_DWORD" /d "00000001" REG ADD "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\Auto Update" /v "ResetAU" /t "REG_DWORD" /d "00000001" REG ADD "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\Auto Update" /v "ScheduledInstallDay" /t "REG_DWORD" /d "00000000" REG ADD "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\Auto Update" /v "ScheduledInstallTime" /t "REG_DWORD" /d "00000003" When i use this, the registry is being modified and with the /detectnow switch, you force the comp to connect with the server, but the NextDetectionTime doesnt change at all then...which is kinda odd. (after the pause (and when you installed the updates, you press a key and the auto updates are inactive again)) When i do these steps manuel (via Automatic Updates configer and select the option 'message before download/install' and I press OK and do that detectnow), it does work. Does someone has an idea of whats going wrong ? Have i forgot a reg. key, or wont this work at all ? Thanks in advance ! (ps: Im updating per classroom, and please dont tell me things like, never activate that hd protect card again and set auto updates on on or so. thanks.) [edit] My batch does work when i first reboot and later deactivate the auto updates again (did that with the %1 parameter). I can live with that, but if someone knows how to fix this without reboot, that would be great ! [/edit] Title edited -- Please, use [TAGS] in your topic's title. Follow new rules --Sonic

The drivers for your nic, did you install them manually or did you just did the auto detect function of win 2k3 ?

holding down the CONTROL button also works, aint it ?

maybe you installed a NIC after the image ha been created. or.. maybe an extra NIC (installed by you) in the machine hasnt been installed properly and then windows tries to detect the drivers itselfs...which ain't succesfull always.

thats the first part of the text Below there's said what to do next... copy .cat to svcpack copy kbnnnn.exe to svcpack modify the dosnet.inf create svcpack.inf and so on... I've also checked the OEM site http://oem.microsoft.com/script/contentpag...=551737#top#top and here's also explained how to slipstream the files into the source, but there's nearly a difference...i only noticed one typing difference. OEM Site: Catalogsubdir "i386\svcpack" (other) Site(s): Catalagsubdir "\i386\svcpack" which one is the 'correct' version ? [edit] ps: does someone also has some info about those cat files ? are they worth anything, results of them and so on [/edit]

Im running win2k here too and well, i don't have a autoexec.nt or what so ever, but i do have autoexec.bat, config.sys and so on. It are hidden files, thats also why i forwarded you to autoexec.bat via CMD. By the way, your xcopy command switches are a bit strange... /H == copy hidden /E == copys folder, even when they're empty /S == Copy folders when they're not empty (/E and /S are working against eachother) /I == Target is a folder when target does not exist, remove this one too... /Q == Dont show copied files..okay. /Y == Overwrite files without prompting..okay. I would prefer this: xcopy %SYSTEMROOT%\TempDocs\*.* %SYSTEMDRIVE%\Docume~1\ /E /I /Q /H /Y I also removed the *.* at the end of docume~1 cause if you do that, you DO have to 'tell' the comp what the destination is (file or folder) I think that %SYSTEMROOT% and %SYSTEMDRIVE% doesnt work, cause that is loaded via config.sys and .PATH commands of autoexec.bat good luck ;-)

I have seen this one before, but why does microsoft integrates by extracting all the files, then copy to source, in the meanwhile..your also copying the hotfix.exe to the svcpack + the .cat file. Is this really integration or just wasting more space then ever ?

So far i have accomplished to slipstream a lot of hotfixes (all of them, since yesterday) It didnt work allways that well and so on, but after 4 weeks of spending some time on it i learned the work arounds. But, i still am wondering and questioning myself a couple of things, i listed it below and maybe some of you can help me out. I'll do it on the order as the topic title says... CAT Files -- As we are slipstreaming stuff, you need to use the CAT files in order to install the hotfixes into windows itself (even though the files are slipstreamed). We created on a nice manner the svcpack.inf which includes the catsubdir folder and the cat..to install text with all the .CATs within the SVCPACK folder. Even though i do this on the proper way, i still am getting messages that i have to install all those updates. What exactly are those .CAT files doing then ? Whats their purpose in this whole installation ? I don't see any of the results from which i can say "wooow, that CAT file really helped me out". No not at all, can someone explain this to me what they actually are doing then ? INF Files -- Some of us delete all of them, just like me. Some of us extract information from them in order to create proper reg keys so WU will recognise things like WU stuff. Whats the best way to handle, delete them or collect the info ? Collecting them will force us/you to install it into the reg, ain't i right ? So even a custom installation with some parts less will also have the regs in the system, even though those parts are not used. Let alone the hotfixes. UPDATE.exe -- I read the Hotstream project and it appears that update.exe is mentioned a couple of times. Is update.exe used to install .CAT / .INF files or something else ? Thank you for the time reading all this. Any help is welcomed.

Hmm...i think the following would do the trick: Log on to the computer. Go to START/RUN and type "cmd" (without "") Go to your root dir (on which windows resides) (C: for example) Type CD\ (so you'll be on the very root of the HD) Type 'edit autoexec.bat' (loading edit can take a couple of seconds...). If autoexec.bat has lines in it, be carefull that you not edit stuff (which does belong in autoexec.bat) Put the following line somewhere in your file: xcopy c:\DOCUME~1\*.* /D /E /H x:\destination x:\destination is your complete path to the dir where the backup has to be placed. You have to work in 8.3 Dos format. This means that when a foldername is longer dan 8 chars, then you'll have to write down the first 6 chars + ~1 (if there are more folders with the same 6 chars, then you'll have to number ~x on alphabet). If the folder name is exactly 8 chars, then you don't have to change destination folder (spaces are not allowed @ dos). I hope you'll understand what i've said and well, if u need help, i'll try to help

< removed > I have applied all hotfixes for now to my Win 2k. This is excluding: MDAC IE6SP1 + fixes ---- I'll first try to get to work what i've just made, so i do know how to handle. I now have some sort of critical problem with the following fixes (old to new) KB891711 - fix win 2k (website?) KB840987 - same as above KB841533 - same as above KB835732 - ^^ Q329115 - security update for Q329115 I had some problems with NTDLL.DLL en KERNEL.DLL All of those hotfixes got the KERNELL.DLL within and KB835732 also got NTDLL.DLL. When i slipstream those hotfixes (in the old to new order), then i CAN get windows to install all the stuff. But after the installation, when i login i get the message "Cant locate 175 coördinate in USERENV.DLL" (or something like that, but then in Dutch). This has to do something with the hotfixes above, cause without those hotfixes everyone works just fine. But i still have the problem that Windows Update claims about all those hotfixes. another ps (also located in a new topic of mine), those CAT files, are they being used or is it just something worthless ? I don't see any results of them. Hotfix still appears in WU. Maybe i should create such a reg file after all and stick to that..

Thanks for the info. Was not busy with the integration those last couple of days. I know am getting this error everytime i am integrating stuff... NTOSKERNEL32.DLL error and an NTDLL.DLL error which says that this file has been put into the memory by the cause of ntoskernel.dll. Im dutch, so i cant put the 'english ' version here. I'll translate it when i see that error message again does anyone has an idea what this could be ? I integrate using the hotfixes in the way i installed them on a clean pc. Maybe i should first integrate IESP1 and then continue with these fixes, cause i have first installed a clean win2k, then i updated to sp4, then to ie6 sp1 and then i gained all these hotfixes.

hmmm...in short terms...i can conclude the following (?) : IE6 (SP1) Installed ==> QFE IE6 (SP1) Not installed ==> GDR I'll try my slipstream out right now using the GDR (as i am going to try all hot fix type 1's ) @TommyP: I don't know if you've already done this...but i think you should adjust your batchfile for the win2k stuff.. when your going to use those GDR / QFE, you should use your !DOIE! check to determine which folder to use Hmm... reading the batch file, or let me say, re-memorising it, and reading Bilou's part about the Februar KB file...i think your 'bandaid' ain't correct anymore. It appears to be that the files from xpsp2 binary are copied AFTER all hotfixes have been extracted, which means that there will always be that file (+version especially) in your system, even though that KB bilou mentioned has later versions. I think you should put an if exist xpsp2 check after each hotfix so you'll always have the latest files in your system/cd. If i'm wrong please correct me and tell me why, im always fond of suggestions and feedback @Bilou Those new SHLWAPI.DLL files and so on, are they located in the "root" directory of the hotfix, or are they being extracted in another folder (like xpsp2binarydrop) ? [edit] Here's a bit of a strange part.. when i've extracted all of the HF1 fixes, i only see a QFE folder I think thats because i do have some HF1 for IE6SP1. No GDR maps for me...so, no files will be copied after all i do have an XPSP2binarydrop folder, from which i do am copying the files, cause i think its not part of IE6(sp1) hotfixes.

Reading the part that Bilou posted about those RDM and QFE i would assume that the QFE folder has more fixes into it for things that are new, apart from IE6 without SP1 or something. Anyways, i'll go on with my tiny 'test' to check wether my problem is in the type 1 hotfixes or type 2. And for Bilou, i am generating a new old-to-new hotfix list soon and its easy to integrate in a batchfile check. maybe i should post it afterwards, when i have finished it and its done Good night to you all...im a bit sleepy after all this integrating and testing stuff (well,today i hadnt had the time to slipstream and so on...but tomorrow i will) I've got my new image ready for launch and will install it on a Workstation tomorrow

I always use Win2k/XP. Far more stable and not expensive. OEM versions especially

Well tommyP, I've extended a part of my own batchin' work the last couple of days and am going to rebuild that list (now that i read your reply). I didn't had any time today to create a new slipstreamed (hotfix 1 only standard install) disc, so i'll create that one tomorrow...well, i could put on the batch file for now. The part that I 'extended' is a little precheck for the hotfixes. I have put all the hotfixes in a text file from old to newest hotfix. Both hotfix type 1 and 2 are included in that list and i use a if check to see in which hotfix folder i put it (for you that would be HF1 / HF2). If it does exist it extracts the file and each time i see "overwrite" (deleting the unneeded file after every extraction), your ensured you got the latest versions of the files...at least, i would say so. My going-wrong-part, accorrding to Bilou, is something with IE or a part of it (like that wapi.dll thingy). Haven't checked it yet, but i think he's right. Im off again, i'll check again later and report some of the results. [edit] I do am wondering now....which WHLApi.dll should i use ? The most logical one seems the latest version, aint it ? [/edit]

Well, our Solid Edge does take some space, same goes to big games like Sims 2 (500 MB !!), and yes, i think a 1 GB temp might be a bit to small, i would go for 3 or 4. Some extra's are never thrown away maybe you should store docs on it too so space is used more wisely (if you are going to create bigger partitions) I mostly don't look at my temp dir furthermore than that. But i hope is helped you out some more.

i'll do that tomorrow when im at work (it's meant for those machines you know), but im so fond of batching and trying to make it work that i'll give it a try here..but i don't have all of the (dutch) KB files here...and downloading those does take quite some time (i'll burn those on cd tomorrow and will test further @home if it doesnt work at work). And ok, i'll skip the HF2, BANDAID2K and IESP1 integration. PS: I got a little question about some lines from the batch file about(i dun have the batch file right here ) the "Special folder" creation/checking. I don't get that part, cause i see/know that in the batchfile the original exisisting folders are compared to the folders of the 'new' i386 and every folder that is new is going to be deleted (after copying stuff from sp2binarydrop and rmtq (or something) folders. The part that i mean in the batch file is that with the dir checking (located at a string in which the %%J variable is being used (its only being used once so you'll find it for sure) And to you bilou, i'll report back on this topic tomorrow. Thanks for your help and time. ----- INF FILES ----- Questions and Comments (??) I see thats a bit of a nasty part with the INF files, but i'll read it some more times over tomorrow. But i am wondering about 2 things, - What about the so-called Type 2 fixes ? How can you extract the reg from them ? and now the nasty part... We're not always using a default installation when we install Windows X (can be any windows). We just go to dos ans use a setup.exe switch in order to make a custom installation. (for the laptop for example, some drivers/programms just don't coöperate well with laptops or with our hardware). I think that, the way im reading that INF part, ALL of that information is stored into the registry, even though i don't install the files for those fixes (when im using a custom installation) Can someone explain that to me or well, give a solution ? ---- PS: Thanks for your help already, getting wiser each day.

i have tried this on so many ways, but i just dont seem to accomplish this. The batching works (almost) fine. I get some errors when those HF2 files are getting extracted so i did these with another batch file using some commands. (there are also files overwriting eachother while i was extracting those, and no, not those default dummy.cat, iecustom and so on) But i just overwrite those files when i was asked to and i put them into the source files, burned it on disc and it works..until..i get problems with my explorer/iexplore. I can browse the internet, and explore my pc (but am gettin' errors @ winnt folder) and when i want to download something i cant press the Save or Open button (i can press them, they aren't greyed out either, but they just don't work). I already have used up to 15 cds and counting...(virtual machine is very slow for my work comp.) and now, i could really use some help, i already am trying this for the last couple of weeks. Any help would be appreciated.

i already have such a batch file like yours, same stuff and i edited it for some customisation. I have a little extension, i have a so called .TXT in which my hotfixes are listed based on old to new, so old files will get replaced. IE6 is also integrated. Can you help me on how to get proper information out of the .INF files for both types of hotfixes ? I now am running some test cds, without success, i hope your willing to help me out. You can contact me via this board or mail me at johannes [ AT ] josy.org (i also have msn ) Many thanks in advance.

After my first post about how-to (questioning) integrate hotfixes and so on, i managed to integrate files into the core after all. (prev. post http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=40292&hl= ) Some pré info: - I disabled Windows File Protection - I've extracted all of my hotfixes into a folder and replaced them with original I386 files - I've renamed all the .inf's to kbxxxx.inf and put them into the svcpack folder. - I've edited DOSNET.INF and created a SVCPACK.INF (and put in the catalog list) After doing this i burned the whole thing on cd (bootable) and installed everything without encountering any problems....so far.. After checking Windows Update again (windows 2000 ) i saw that there were 16 Essential Hotfixes available. I wrote those KB numbers down and checked them with the hotfixes in my download list. All of those hotfixes, except a few, were in my hotfixes download folder. Well, this is where my questioning starts..how is it possible that he detects the hotfixes even though i integrated them ? I thought about some possibilities, listed below: - .INF or .CAT file is missing (that wasnt the prob) - The hotfix files are overwritten by even later hotfix files (thinking about SHLWAPI.DLL for instance, IE updates) ps: do i need all IE (6 SP1) updates or is the latest enough?) edit: Which INF files are more important, those in the /update/ folder of the hotfix are those in the 'root' folder of the hotfix ? PS: I know there's a thread http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=32125 with a lot of information and read all reply's, but i still don't get this thing settled.[/edit] Any help, advice or anything other usefull is much appreciated. Kind regards, Honnes

Thanks for your link, i am dutch and well...guess what i can download there I have also checked the other link and see another method of including Jview and so on...but doesnt that cost to much memory, cause i already got some errors while testing it with the normal files. About the hotfixes, are there any special switches so i can integrate them into the core files of the win2k files or should i use the 7-zip method (http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=39048) ? Also, i was searching for something for integrating Internet Explorer Service Pack 1 into win2k SP4. I have read that i can do this with the administrative kit, haven't tryed it, but so far i read you can only install ie6 sp1 that way. Any feedback would be helpfull, will try it now and post what i've accomplished ! Any comments, feedback, help and suggestions are welcomed. --- Honnes

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Hi all, I got the task to create a slipstreamed cd with all hotfixes integrated and some programms. I just bumped on this forum a week or something ago and i have created some up-to-date cds, but i encountered some problems. I've searched for a lot of stuff on this forum, but i find so much information that it just drives me crazy Thats why i created a new topic and hope to get some answers if possible Info: Using: Windows 2000 Professional Integrated: Service Pack 4 Loose files: Lot of hotfixes Prob: integrating hotfixes Used sites: unattend.msfn.org / forum here / links to other sites / google I was wondering if i there are switches for the hotfixes so i can integrate them into the windows files from cd, saving a lot of space. I mean integrating like you can integrate a servicepack with the /s or /integrate into the core of the files. I got a lot of hotfixes and they do take a lot of space and some of them won't even install without user confirmation (Journal view and NET 1.1 SP1). Does anyone know how to integrate those hotfixes ? Using Nlite doesn't sound bad, but a lot of hotfixes won't be integrated. Summary: Is there a switch so i can integrate hotfixes into windows files ? My 2nd question is somewhat a continue on the previous one. I looked around the forum for the NET 1.1 Service Pack 1 (with language pack if possible) and Journal View, on how to integrate them. I also bumbed on Ryans' site, but the link to the file did not work. The same thing goes to Journal viewer. Maybe its better to install Journal viewer with RunOnce, cause it needs no updates and so on, so that would not be a big prob. (using .msi or .exe /switch) I could also do this for Net 1.1, but then i don't have the language pack and the latest hotfix installed. Summary: How can i integrate NET 1.1 SP1 + hotfix (+language pacK) and Journal view (maybe runonce is better)? [edit] ps: Found this link for Net 1.1 + SP 1 -- http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=26304&st=230 I've created the file, will test it soon ! [/edit] [edit2] I found this link for slipstreameing IESP1 and other stuff after searchin' for a couple of hours http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=32125 It contains info for both win2k and winXP. I'll try that one later this afternoon. [/edit2] [edit3] Ok...i now think i have found enough information, and started some work arounds... I see a bit of a problem now...i want to integrate hotfixes and found some hotfixes containing a UNIPROC dir. Thats not a problem at all, but the big problem is, all those dirs contain the same files...those of the .dll arent a problem, i'll just grab the latest version...but what about the win32 file ??? [/edit3] Any help is appreciated. Kind regards, Honnes