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I was able to disable Defender and Base Filtering Engine via @tekkaman's suggested app to disable Window Updates. https://www.sordum.org/9470/windows-update-blocker-v1-8/ Edit the .ini file and add Defender and BFE to the list of services to disable. Though also in returning to this thread, I did forget to try Autoruns in Admin Mode (I generally never have to because my user account *IS* an "admin" account with full admin privileges).

While that may be, this "Windows Update Blocker" is the ONLY way I have found that SUCCESSFULLY disables DEFENDER (and BFE) in Win10 21H2 !!! The page you linked to for us to download it has a section on how to edit the .ini file to disable OTHER services also - this has been the ONLY thing I've found that can DISABLE DEFENDER. Thank you, thank you, thank you. While you may have only posted in regards to MS Updates, you solved my biggest issue preventing my upgrade from LTSB to LTSC. Even our corporate IT department was unable to disable DEFENDER and so several test benches have not been able to be upgraded. We have "legacy projects" from the '90s automotive industry that MS Defender will always flag and delete. MS Defender is a NIGHTMARE! Thanks again!

I'm not particularly worried/concerned, to be honest. While I am getting "use" out of that old Asus laptop, it's an "international" keyboard layout and I will actually "be happy" when it finally dies (I remap several keys because I keep accidentally hitting the wrong key with the "international" layout). Aside from a ThinkPad out in the garage used for turbo engine tuning, it's by far my oldest laptop and it was a FREEBIE. I prefer to use by freebies "oldest to newest". Kind of intentionally let the OLDER ones die first. There's one small problem with this logic though, I've never actually had a computer ever "die" - I just kind of have to "assume" that they eventually do! I mean, my circa 1986 Commodore C64 still works - but I cannot claim to turn it on every day, lol. I may upgrade this laptop from tweaked LTSB 2016 to tweaked xxHy to test this hybrid shutdown/hibernate issue. I'll have to verify graphis driver WDDM 2.4 availability first. I know that hibernate did not effect GPU-Z's temp sensors but I know that wasn't the original concern either. That desktop runs five widescreen monitors, I'd expect it to run a little hotter. But still not concerned. I didn't check that tower desktop, but I did <search engine of choice as a verb> around for the Asus X54C and several users report idle temps MUCH higher than mine. I also don't use any of my computers for any graphic-intensive games or whatnot so my "idle" and my "normal operating" are only a few degrees apart from each other.

I don't have a need to monitor CPU or GPU temps "full time, real time" but it's cool to check them out of curiosity every once in a while. I used to monitor CPU temp "full time, real time" and dynamically changed FSB clock speed based on computer activity. Idle temp for CPU was in the mid 20 deg C. Normal activity was low to mid 30 deg C. But web browser CPU and RAM usage is WAY higher than back when I monitored CPU. I guess one of these days I'll start monitoring CPU again just to watch what it does during spreadsheeting versus web browsing, et cetera. I only ever really monitored CPU back in the day because I was an "overclocker" but overclocked "dynamically", the computer ran UNDERclocked the majority of the time.

WinXP x64 desktop i7-4770 @ 3.4 GHz has the CPU running at 39 deg C and its Nvidia GeForce GT 635 running at 46 deg C Win10 x64 laptop i5-6300U @ 2.4 GHz has the CPU running at 29 deg C and its Intel HD Graphics 520 running at 31 deg C Win10 x64 laptop i7-6820HQ @ 2.7 GHz has the CPU running at 29 deg C and its Nvidia Quadro P3000 running at 30 deg C Win10 x64 laptop i3-2310M @ 2.1 GHz has the CPU running at 48 deg C and its Intel HD Graphics 3000 running at 48 deg C -- GPU-Z's CPU and GPU both fluctuate IDENTICALLY, I suspect it's not being sensed correctly -- this laptop also does not use its internal display but rather feeds the HDMI input of a 42" television WinXP x86 desktop Q6700 @ 2.66 GHz -- GPU-Z isn't picking up CPU or GPU for its Intel G33 / G31 or for its Nvidia GeForce2 MX / MX 400

GPU-Z is showing my GPU at 49 to 52 degrees. No clue if that is "normal" range or not as I've never monitored GPU temp. Dislike having to HOVER over GPU-Z systray icon to get the temp, would prefer the number displayed in the systray. I used to monitor CPU temp but forget what I used but it was in the systray. I am not finding GPU temp in Win10's Task Manager (but I am also using 2016 Win10 and not any of the yyHx variants).

Depends on what you use your computer for. Ten years or so ago, it would take seven hours to convert a 4+ GB dvd movie to a 600 MB avi file on a computer that was five years old or so at the time. I can do that in 20 minutes now and my computer is ten years old with an HDD and not so much as an SSD. Ten years ago, I was on an AMD Athlon 64 and yep, it took seven hours to convert a dvd movie to a cd-r sized avi file. 420 minutes. My i7 is ten years old and it can do it in 20 minutes. Multi-thread, not single-process. So I guess that puts me in the "21x more productive" camp if you look at 20min versus 420min. But if you look at it from an 8hr job perspective, that is 1 movie per day for 5 days a week, so only 5 per week. Versus 3 per hour so 24 in an 8hr day times 5 days or 120 per week. That would be "24x more productive". Or something like that, lol. However, "work" is force times distance times the cosine of theta, so can a computer really even do "work"?

My XP x64 has an awesome bug. It's actually one of the reasons that this computer remains on XP x64! The computer has five widescreen monitors. I do not use a screensaver but the monitors are set to turn off in 15 minutes. Only four of the five will turn off! It's an AWESOME bug because I can keep email and texts "always on" on the monitor that won't turn off.

Cool, thanks!

I think you misread. None of us were claiming that HTTPS Everywhere is malware. It was a dark mode extension that was reported as malware. I have nothing against HTTPS Everywhere. Don't have anything "for" it either, as far as that goes. 'cause like you say, browsers don't need it anymore these days anyway.

Yep! I only tried to extract using 7Zip, IZArc, and PeaZip. I didn't try other tools or try Universal Extractor. 7Zip is the only thing needed for MOST .crx files, so if HTTPS Everywhere is blocking that ability, then what are they hiding is my view.

I think we need a new extension. HTTPS Everywhere was created when the internet was entirely different than it is now. And as you say, over-popularized. I'll even sign over "rights" for this new extension. Let's call it HTTP Nowhere. Don't redirect http to https, flatout BLOCK IT instead!

There is an obvious flaw in just converting the http to https - you ALLOWED the telemetry/malware by doing so. I'm not a fan of HTTPS Everywhere. I have my router set up to block any-and-all http traffic. While https isn't perfect, there really is no need to ever connect to http. Granted, not all of my computers run through that router, so I can't confirm or deny if that is the perfect solution or not. But anything that intentionally uses http versus https, yeah, it should be flagged as suspicious at the very least.

Its .crx is password-protected. That alone should make you NOT TRUST IT in my view. But to me it's also not about Chinese malware. Malware is malware even if it originates in an "ally nation".

https://www.crx4chrome.com/crx/751/ But then extract, remove the malware, re-zip, rename .zip to .crx, then install into 360Chrome. I did not spend a lot of time tracking down the malware "for you" (I do not use "dark mode"), but one obvious one is the addListener function in the bg.js file. It adds a unique identification string ( &zid=109723600173 ) to a "phone-home" URL ( ht tp://sqxy.coolban.com/api/TBK/chaquan? ) [I added the space in ht tp]. Generally speaking, this sort of phone-home shenanigans can be disabled by simply replacing the http with hxxp. There are also SEVERAL links to Chinese addresses in wb.js (intentionally non-secure http links versus secure https links should never be "trusted" inside ANY extension). - js.t.sinajs.cn - img.t.sinajs.cn - timg.sjs.sinajs.cn I stopped hunting at this point (I do not use "dark mode"). Of course, if you "trusted" this in the past, then just download from .crx4chrome and use it "as-is" and continue to blindly "trust" as you were doing. I mean, afterall, it did take the Chrome Web Store two and a half years to find this "high risk impact" and remove it from the Chrome Web Store. Any damage that would have been done would have already been done in those two and a half years.

360Chrome v11 is quick and snappy. So I guess I just never realized just how SLOW "newer" web browsers are on these old i3 processors. I've come to EXPECT THAT with various LEGACY Mozilla Forks, I guess this is my first witness of anything more capable of the "modern web" on older hardware. I guess now I'm finally seeing what some of the older hardware users see every day. I thought my i7 desktop was old. I'm definitely seeing why these two i3 laptops were *FREE*, lol.

I just plugged in my only remaining Win7 laptop - a Toshiba Satelite with a slightly faster i3 than the i3 in the Asus. It too is doing this EXTREME LAG in every web browser Address Bar. Just never noticed in the past because I don't generally use laptops and find them quite annoying and cumbersome in comparison to real desktop computers.

Kind of a bit late to test it, I've already uninstalled Win7 and have my debloated Win10 on that old Asus now and everything is fine and dandy now. But the EXTREME LAG that I was experiencing was not tied to audio or even video. Audio and video played perfectly fine. No, not 20 YouTube tabs or anything "unrealistic" like that, but YouTube worked perfectly fine. IF you wanted to click a link and wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and wait... Walk to the kitchen and back each and every time you clicked a link, make a full round trip and the browser is just now reacting to your link click upon return. XP didn't do this on this old Asus. Win10 is working flawlessly on this old Asus. But three different installs of Win7 and all three have EXTREME LAG in *every* browser that was tried. I tried some DNS "optimizers", TCP "optimizers", tools like that which I've never had any experience with, was just trying random stuff KNOWING the laptop was about to get a full reformat/reinstall. Nothing worked. Never could find out just "why".

Do you at least "believe in" disabling services and background tasks that are otherwise enabled by default? If so, then "what's the difference" between disabling them after install versus running an OS that never installs them in the first place? To me, even XP was bloated and required "debloating".

Never could resolve this EXTREME LAG in Win7 on this old Asus X54C laptop. Best example I can think of to demonstrate is that some 360Chrome users have reported that the Address Bar will not allow a URL entry for several seconds at startup on older hardware. Imagine that Address Bar lag not just at startup, but EVERY time you use the Address Bar. Not only that, but EVERY time you click a link to try to go somewhere. ALL browsers were doing this! Anywhere from four to twenty six seconds of a delay each and every time you type in the Address Bar or click a link before the browser, ALL browsers, would acknowledge the directive! I did try an SSD - no effect! I was able to find an Intel HD 3000 graphics driver from Win8 that also works on Win10 so I am able to run this Asus X54C now on Win10. No more LAG. Never could figure out just why Win7 and all web browsers were behaving that way. File Manager "address bars" didn't have this EXTREME lag, only web browsers, all web browsers.

Agreed. But it also presents a serious realization. Whenever we (MSFN as a whole) "complains" about the modern web or Google-isms or Mozilla-isms and how "bloated" modern web design is, we (MSFN as a whole) must remind ourself that "this" is what our view of the internet would LOOK LIKE if it were wholly and completely "bloat-free".

I'm so OCD that all 50 of my yarrow stalks landed in a perfect right angle. If it's not a right angle, it's a wrong angle. No need to be obtuse.

Agreed. And I guarantee you that the Chromium team does not care nor perhaps even read what the MSFN community says about their project.

Agreed. The Wikipedia boycott rant, be it true or false, would get an F at my old high school