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I'm showing the v13.5 branch to use the same Chromium as the v13.0 branch. The modifications for the Speedup Utility are inside "en-US.pak". There are a total of six files that I made changes to that all pertain to the Speedup Utility -- 5662 --- Optimizing the memory ==>> Optimizing memory… 5663 --- Clearint the cache ==>> Cleaning cache… 5666 --- speedup percent:$1 ==>> Speedup percent: $1 [note: there is a space BEFORE the S in Speedup (this puts a gap between Speedup and the checkmark on the completed screen) and between the : and $1] 5673 --- (Can release:$1) ==>> (Can release: $1) 5674 --- (Released:$1) ==>> (Released: $1) 5685 --- more setting for speedup ==>> More settings for Speedup

Based on some of the Chinese/Russian update logs, it appears that the May 13, 2021 Build 2250 is the last of the v13.0 branch (ie, version 13.0.2250.0). It appears that upstream has moved on to the v13.5 branch (June 8, 2021 = version 13.5.1020.0). I'm pulling the release dates and update logs from here - http://forum.ru-board.com:9000/topic.cgi?forum=5&topic=50612&start=0&limit=1&m=31 I'm seeing this as a good time for me to officially upgrade from the 13.0 Build 2206 that I have been using and port all my mods to 13.0 Build 2250. I'm not sure of where to find the "official" update logs and I've seem some v13.1 releases - but even those indicate that 13.0.2250.0 is going to be the last in the 13.0 branch. I'll attempt to document all of my mods along the way a bit better than the last time around.

Here is one (among dozens) of English issues I have with 360 Chrome. I screen-cap'd this from the modded v9. This spelling error (call it obsessive if you like) exists in ALL versions of 360 Chrome. This spelling error is one of the messages that is displayed when you run the Speedup utility. But it IS fixable. Here is a screen-cap from my modded v13 build 2206. Note that I also put a SPACE between Can release: and the actual number (again, call it obsessive if you like). I also capitalized More and Speedup in the More settings for Speedup link at the bottom of the Speedup Utility and the Speedup count messages along the right (yes, again, call it obsessive if you like).

Google Voice doesn't work with an untouched original v9, v11, or v12. It requires v13 and it's not dependent on whether we mod v13 or not. I haven't tested with untouched Chromium versions to see which minimum Chromium version is required.

Scratch that experiment. I'm still most-satisfied with Build 2206.

TOTALLY COOL !!!...

Good point! But the "average city" then HAS TO rule out some US cities. In the world of statistics, we have bell-shaped curves. Virginia is not an "average city" and is part of that bell-shaped curve "extremes" - and West Virginia is also an "extreme", to the opposite side of that bell-shaped curve. West Virginia's poverty rate was 16.0% in 2019. Virginia's poverty rate was 9.9% in 2019. We have States here in the US that find their own way to send the poverty OUT of their State and into other States. Legal or not, it happens. Best States with fewest in poverty -- New Hampshire, Utah, Maryland, Minnesota, New Jersey, Colorado, Hawaii, Massachusetts, Washington, Virginia, Nebraska, Connecticut -- all 10.0% or below Worst States with highest in poverty -- Oklahoma, Alabama, West Virginia, Arkansas, Kentucky, New Mexico, Louisiana, Mississippi (, Puerto Rico, American Samoa) -- all 15.0% or higher Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_poverty_rate

The modded v9 works well here also. Google Voice does not work as far as making calls in v9, v11, or v12. v9 (at least the modded) does download .csv files from Google Sheets (v13 does not). I have started using v13 Build 1006 for testing purposes. I do not prescribe to the "newer is better" paradigm and most of v13's "updates" have little (if anything) to do with the "rendering engine". Build 1032 was the next build after Build 1006 and that is when the I-would-not-recommend "Security Options" settings/"feature" tab appeared and also when the default skin started its own telemetry DNS connection(s).

Oh yeah, I guarantee it that it's that "median value" that is WAY OFF !!! Here in the States, no matter what State, there is ALWAYS a "poverty district" where the "bottom tier folks" CAN ALWAYS find a house for "pennies to the dollar". You can always spot these "districts" because the house will be run-down and look like it should be condemned as unlivable, but the vehicle parked in the driveway will be brand new, spit-shined, and worth twice the value of the house. You'd think I'd be exaggerating - but I'm not

Centered taskbar!? YUCK! That's got APPLE written all over it!

Agreed. Where are you finding first bottom tier prices? I'm not well-traveled nowadays, but I've been to 26 of the 48-contiguous States. I'm finding it difficult to fathom on how West Virginia and Virginia would be so drastically different - unless you're in the Washington, D.C. area of Virginia.

Minimum wage in 1984 was $3.35/hr. Again assuming a 40hr work week, that's $134 per week or $6,968 per year. Having to "qualify" for a mortgage started here in the US in 2010 (subprime crisis was 2007-2010) under the Dodd-Frank financial reform legislation. While "qualifying" for mortgages is relatively new here in the US per Federal Laws, it's been around since at least 1970 based on this -- https://www.huduser.gov/portal/publications/pdf/Trends_hsg_costs_85-2005.pdf What is now Federally mandated as far as qualifying for a mortgage (28-29% mortgage-debt to income ratio), in the '80s that apparently ranged anywhere from 25% to 42% but 30% was the "standard". But I'm also showing that the "standard 30%" in 1984 also included utility payments, property taxes, and PMI (insurance). So 1984 versus 2021 here in the US is actually pretty much identical - you could only get a mortgage that would cost you roughly 30% of your total net income.

1984 Italy => 73,500,000 / 750,000 = 98.0 2021 Italy => 200,000 / 950 = 210.5 The federal minium wage in the US is $7.25 per hour. Assuming a 40hr work week, that's $290 per week or $15,080 per year. That puts you in the 12% Tax Bracket so net income would be $13,270 per year or $1106 per month. It's more about Debt-to-Income ratio and not monthly income here in the US. The highest debt-to-income ratio that qualifies for a mortgage is 29% and that is what we call an FHA Mortgage (Federal Housing Authority) [most mortgage lenders use 28% but 29% is available]. Different formulas apply to Veterans but the percentages are not that far off, Veterans are allowed to add total debt differently but house+debt is still limited to 41% in total debt and FHA is also 41% total debt. The 29% is part of that 41% total debt. Not to confuse, but it is that 29% mortgage debt to income ratio that determines if you even qualify for a mortgage. So if you only make $15,080 per year, you only qualify for a mortgage where the payments add up to $15,080 * 29% = $4,373 per year, or $364 per month. Using the default 4.04% interest rate for a 30yr and no down payment, that equates to a $75,800 home price (I used this calculator - https://wallethub.com/mortgage-calculator/ ) So for an apples-to-apples, the 2021 US Jaclaz Ratio (home price / monthly net income) => 75,800 / 1106 = 68.5 (this would be the highest valued house that you can qualify for as far as getting a mortgage). So that still kinda tells me that the US is better off than Italy. But I don't remember if that was the question we were trying to answer, lol. But you can easily buy a house here in the US for less than that. If you wanted to buy one for $60,000 that would put the 2021 US Jaclaz Ratio at 54.2. So the "worst case scenario" as far as that ratio is to buy the biggest house possible that our mortgage laws would even qualify you for a mortgage - and that gives me 68.5. I'm still curious of doing a 1984 US Jaclaz Ratio (just to give it a name), I'll have to dig that data up later.

Allow me to recap so I can follow easier -- 2021 Italy -- 190,000 Euro for nothing-fancy, small flat in an average city, in an average buiding, suitable for one or two people 1,850 Euro per month for low range of a good wage The Jaclaz Ratio (home price / monthly net income) => 190,000 / 1,850 = 102.7 1984 Italy -- 73,500,000 Lire for nothing-fancy, small flat in an average city, in an average building, suitable for one or two people 1,525,000 Lire per month for low range of a good wage The Jaclaz Ratio (home price / monthly net income) => 73,500,000 / 1,525,000 = 48.2 Am I correct in my recap? If so, I'll then do 1984 versus 2021 for a nothing-fancy, small flat in an average city, in an average building, suitable for one or two people for a US City.

I use the same approach for web browsers. I want a "benchmark" ("statistic") that tells me this browser is faster than that browser, not somebody's "gut feeling".

I shall publicly apologize if I offended. Was certainly not my intent. But I will add this, I *love* statistics so from "my side", you struck first So taking a few steps back then, how would you propose a demonstration on whether home-ownership has "improved" MORE or LESS in the US versus Italy for 1984 versus 2021 ???

Unsure. I don't get that error. As a general practice, I DISABLE any-and-all "certificate checks", "revocation", and the like. To me (I know everybody has their own preference on the topic), but TO ME, "certificate errors" are USELESS and akin to "shouting fire in a theater when there is no fire" or akin to "antivirus errors that are false positives".

Looks like I didn't take notes beyond what I posted in this thread -- https://msfn.org/board/topic/182370-extreme-explorer-360-a-how-to-guide-converting-remaining-chinese-to-english/ Hope that helps.

Et tu, Brute? We have MORE THAN ENOUGH "people" on this forum acting as "police" and TELLING us which direction the thread discussion "can" or "can not" go, let's PLEASE not add you to that list, my friend. We only have maybe 20 to 30 active members in the XP threads. There really is no need to "police" such a TINY user-base. If a thread goes "off-topic" (within reason, of course), SO WHAT, there is only 30 of us, "on a good day", the thread will make it's own way back to "on-topic" without a small percentage of those 30 actiling Holier Than Thou. But I digress...

Then I shall leave it up to YOU to demonstrate if true or if NOT true. I'll sit back and see how YOU attempt to demonstrate WITHOUT the use of "statistics". Because from "this side", YOUR demonstration of YOUR "flat" CAN NOT BE PROVEN - if you don't have some sort of "statistic" that is VERIFYIABLE, then you might as well MAKE UP NUMBERS or PULL THEM OUT OF YOUR BUTT

I'll have to see if I made notes somewhere. For the 451's that some of you guys are getting, you could try a VPN program called Windscribe - https://windscribe.com/ I (unfortunately) have a neighbor 5/6 houses down on the Registered Sex Offenders list, I sometimes have to use Windscribe for the nephew and neice to log into some of their game sites. I've also had good success with online proxy web sites, the two I've used are "Hyperbyte" and "Free Proxy Sites". Windscribe is likely the best route, if your country does this 451-thing, I suspect they block Hyperbyte and ProxySites also.

I would also suggest that getting Win 1.01 thru Win 10 "to work" visually on YouTube is not the same thing as getting every one of those versions to truly work. Does he have audio? Does he only have 800 x 600 resolution? PS/2 mouse only? Printer support? Network / Wi-Fi? Internet access? But still an amazing feat notwithstanding.

Cool. When you watch that YouTube, the very next one that automatically played was Win 1.01 being upgraded one Win version at a time up to Win 10.

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Dad has actually come around to my way of thinking (not because he gave up his argument, but because we do have a way of convincing each other and turning each other around over the years, but it's always a head-butt at first). What really started this whole debate (between dad and I) was dad's use of the word "investment". As someone else pointed out, real estate basically keeps up with INFLATION - that does NOT define it as an "investment". True, "not all investments make money" - but to "define" an asset class as an "investment" means that you "expect it" to make money - any my point is that real estate RARELY DOES. It may keep up with inflation, but a "savings account" 'safe haven' and an "investment" are two entirely different asset classes. To @jaclaz's point of 1984 and a young man today, I offer the comparison for a young man in the US. (I used Google and this web site - https://dqydj.com/historical-home-prices/ ) 1984 annual average wage was $16,135 and the median house cost $68,198 (for reference, inflation-adjusted this is $168,696 in June 2020). So that ratio is 4.23 (house cost divided by wage). 2020 annual average wage was $87,864 and the median house cost $300,987. So the ratio is 3.43. So I guess things are better here in the US compared to Euro as far as 1984 versus 2020. But I also did not verify your Euro numbers, I'll take them at your word.