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    Office 2007 in Windows 2000

    in Windows 2000/2003/NT4

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    On 11/30/2019 at 7:52 PM, win32 said:

    I don't know what to tell you. :} I have successfully installed Office 2007 in various win2k configs, including with USP 5.1, HFSLIP 2000 FullPack slipstream, etc.

    @win32 Forgot to ask, does this include Microsoft Office Outlook 2007? Is there any hope of using any Outlook newer than Outlook 2003?

    On 11/30/2019 at 7:52 PM, win32 said:

    Do you have .NET 2.0 installed?

    Have you tried using fcwin2k instead?

     

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    Office 2007 in Windows 2000

    in Windows 2000/2003/NT4

    Posted · Edited by Dylan Cruz

    On 11/30/2019 at 7:52 PM, win32 said:

    I don't know what to tell you. :} I have successfully installed Office 2007 in various win2k configs, including with USP 5.1, HFSLIP 2000 FullPack slipstream, etc.

    @win32 Where can I get HFSLIP 2000 Fullpack? Looked it up and I can see what it is but I can't find any downloads for it anywhere.

    Do I need extended core? I just realized I only had Extended Kernel, not Core. Maybe that's why it failed...

    What are the steps to changing the boot screen back to the default if I use Extended Core? The only reason I didn't install that is I don't like the replaced boot screen. You said "You can use resource hacker to change it back to the original boot screen," but which page do I need to go to there? If I remember correctly, changing the XP boot screen is a real pain.

    You did say uninstalling Office 2003 and installing 2007 was a "recipe for disaster", so I am prepared to try fresh on a new 2000 install with no 2003 installed, but I want to try to do it right this time.

    Thanks!

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    Do you have .NET 2.0 installed?

    Have you tried using fcwin2k instead?

    Tried it and it didn't work either. I couldn't find the Chrome tool but this one ought to have worked.

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    Office 2007 in Windows 2000

    in Windows 2000/2003/NT4

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    7 minutes ago, win32 said:

    fcwin2k should work just as good for installing Chrome.

    I didn't try with fcwink2k, but I followed along with this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s8u_DaPMDw

    and I get that it's not a valid win32 application, whereas it works for him. Seems like my Windows 2000 just doesn't like me...

    When I try using fcwin2k, I get the same result.

    7 minutes ago, win32 said:

    WMP 9 definitely works for me, and @blackwingcat has made special versions of WMP10 and 11.

    I don't really want a super modern WMP, unless somehow file compatibility is improved.

    7 minutes ago, win32 said:

    I found this thread, which mentions a possible solution to the osetup.dll error:

    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_install-mso_other-mso_2007/installing-office-2007-from-a-download-file-fails/cc2f6a2b-4312-454b-b172-a08c01085556

    I gave this a look, but this seems to be a different error with the same file. Also, in these cases, it seemed not to work even on Windows 7, whereas I know the exact same install files I am using install seamlessly on XP.

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    Office 2007 in Windows 2000

    in Windows 2000/2003/NT4

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    1 minute ago, win32 said:

    That's for the chrome tool. for fcwin2k, you do the following:

    @win2k

    Ah, okay. The original instructions mentioned the chrome tool. Does this allow installation of Chrome?

    1 minute ago, win32 said:

    1. click "refer" next to the "File" field at the top of the window.

    2. point it to setup.exe

    3. Select "Windows XP" from the "OS Ver" drop-down box

    4. Click "CompatSave" then "CompatRun"

    I do CompatSave and RunCompat, and I get the same exact screen. I see an entry made in the fcwin2k table, but it doesn't seem to affect the error.

    1 minute ago, win32 said:

    No. If even WMP is broken, you may want to start over.

    To be fair, I had previously upgraded WMP 6 to WMP 9, because I was trying to get the codec pack to see if MKV files would play (didn't work). So maybe WMP 6 works and 9 does not with KernelEx.

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    Office 2007 in Windows 2000

    in Windows 2000/2003/NT4

    Posted · Edited by Dylan Cruz

    11 minutes ago, win32 said:

    I don't know what to tell you. :} I have successfully installed Office 2007 in various win2k configs, including with USP 5.1, HFSLIP 2000 FullPack slipstream, etc.

    @win32

    Strange.

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    Do you have .NET 2.0 installed?

    Yes

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    Have you tried using fcwin2k instead?

    I was able to open it up. I'm not sure I need to do there - I don't see any "set compatible registry" setting.

    On another note, now that I have KernelEx, things are misbehaving, neither VLC or WMP seems to work - they both keep crashing. I hope this is not normal behavior...

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    Office 2007 in Windows 2000

    in Windows 2000/2003/NT4

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    5 minutes ago, win32 said:

    NNN4NT5.exe is the name of the file. Some people have had to install the extended kernel twice to get the start menu folder to appear.

    I installed it twice and I still don't see it. I don't see KernelEx explicitly as an installed program now, but some of the things it installed show up. I had to do a manual restart each time (it wasn't automatic).

    I still don't see the file, either.

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    KernelEx for Win2000

    in Windows 2000/2003/NT4

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    8 minutes ago, win32 said:

    You're actually the second win2k user I know to complain about thunderbird. Unfortunately it does share distant lineage. I cannot comment much as I use web-based services. In the end, that guy found satisfaction with Opera 12.18's e-mail client.

    A primary problem is Outlook is more than just a mail client, which is all that most of the alternatives tend to be. I use the Outlook email, calendar, contacts, reminders, etc. features extensively.

    8 minutes ago, win32 said:

    I understand your frustrations with older versions of Office. 2003 was good until I learned 2016 (whose key functionality exists in 2007 as well) and I realized what I was missing out on. I'd really love a working Office 2010 and would be good with 2007, but I've now received PowerPoint files that don't work well with 2007, only 2010 and above. So that's where WPS comes in.

    Hats off to you, Office 2013 and newer drive me crazy. Up through 2010, it was one click to save file. In 2013 and 2016, it became two. Now, in 2019, it's *three*. I think Microsoft is trying to drive us all insane. I would never run anything newer than 2010 even on a new Windows OS.

    I like 2010 better than 2007, but I would be content with 2007 on W2K, knowing I can't have everything...

    8 minutes ago, win32 said:

    One issue is that some releases of Office have been known to have certain bugs that are fixed, but with trickery done at the OS level. These quirks have made things difficult for the developers of WINE, ReactOS, and native extensions. It is said that ReactOS will never behave 100% like Windows due to the inability to replicate every quirk that makes Windows tick the way it does. Independent developers don't usually have the same connections in Microsoft, and don't usually have the same issues. (btw, WPS' screenshot feature works in win2k)

    I actually downloaded a tool called Snippy to replace the Snipping Tool from Windows 7. Not exactly the same, but PRINT SCREEN doesn't seem to work in W2K, so it's all I have.

    8 minutes ago, win32 said:

    Remember to use dependency walker on the Office 2007 applications and keep note of any missing API calls, or any stated reasons for why stuff crashes.

    Well, I still need to get it working, first.

    8 minutes ago, win32 said:

    I have VLC 3.0.0 installed. I don't have any MKV files right now but I vaguely remember playing them in the past.

    1.1.1 is the newest w/o KernelEx, so I'll have to try a newer one and see if that works.

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    Office 2007 in Windows 2000

    in Windows 2000/2003/NT4

    Posted · Edited by Dylan Cruz

    6 minutes ago, win32 said:

    Version 3.0e is the latest English version. Use NNN4NT5 (which will either be in %systemroot%\WINNT or Windows 2000 Power Pack start menu folder) to make software think it's running on XP.

    @win32Aha, I didn't scroll down far enough. I just grabed the 30e file (v3.0e I guess).

    I don't see a NNN4NT5 folder or file in my WIN NT folder. Where is the W2K power pack start menu folder/where can I get it?

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    Office 2007 in Windows 2000

    in Windows 2000/2003/NT4

    Posted · Edited by Dylan Cruz

    On 11/3/2019 at 9:32 PM, win32 said:

    Have you tried the installation on a newer OS? If you get the same error, your copy may have some corruption.

    But yes, as long as you get SP4 UR1/USP 5.1 and the extended kernel v3.0x installed, plus the OS version trickery, and do not install Groove, you should be fine.

    @win32

    How exactly were you able to get yours working?

    I have KernelEx, the latest one for English - which is labeled 18g but says 18f in the installer.

    I still get "This program requires a newer version of Windows to run".

    I already had USP 5.1. I can't install the Application Verifier as that also says it requires XP. How can I get setup.exe to run??

    This same setup.exe worked fine on XP.

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    KernelEx for Win2000

    in Windows 2000/2003/NT4

    Posted · Edited by Dylan Cruz

    On 11/28/2019 at 1:03 AM, win32 said:

    That only happens if you install extended core, since extended kernel doesn't modify ntoskrnl.exe (which contains the boot screens). You can use resource hacker to change it back to the original boot screen, but I keep it as a form of tribute to the guy who made win2k usable for at least 7 years longer than what M$ desired.

    @win32I get that, but I'd like to keep it as authentic as possible. But thanks for the clarification.

    What's the difference between extended kernel and core?

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    I prefer to keep the newer MS stuff to a minimum, as it can get quite messy on win2k as it tries to grapple its hook into what it thinks is a newer OS (uninstalling Office 2003 then installing 2007 is a recipe for disaster). Have you looked into Interlink Mail and News from @roytam1?

    It looks very similar to the far inferior Thunderbird.

    Apparently, Word, PP, and Excel work fine, OneNote screenshots don't work, and Outlook can't send mail. It seems like it's *almost* there in terms of working 100%, but just a few things are missing.

    Using non-Office products is not an option for any reason. Furthermore, Office 2003 and before is just not practice. It's not the lack of a ribbon, but the lack of support for many 2007/2010 features I use extensively as well as the whole file format thing.

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    As much as I would like a fully functional Office 2010, I've had a good experience with WPS Office 2016, which tries very hard to copy the UIs and functionality of newer Office releases. It's far above 2003 in that respect (for Word, Excel and PowerPoint equivalents), and about 90-95% of the capability of the real MS Office 2016.

    But, like all Office copycats, still lacking in at least 5-10%.

    If anything, I'd just be interested to know what's holding up full support for Office 2007, since only a few things seem not to work.

    Otherwise, I have to use XP for Office while being able to use 2000 for almost everything else (almost, because apparently VLC on 2000 can't play MKV files)

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    KernelEx for Win2000

    in Windows 2000/2003/NT4

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    @blackwingcat

    Hey, thanks for making KernelEx, it's super helpful!

    My only problem is that Office 2007/2010 doesn't seem to work right properly. It seems that Word, Excel, etc. will work right but I heard Outlook 2007 cannot send mail. It would be really super helpful to have Office 2007 on Windows 2000, because unfortunately Outlook 2003 and Office 2003 in general are just not good enough. Any chance there could be full support for this?

    Also, I saw a screenshot of the startup screen for W2K being modded to say "Powered by Extended Kernel", is there a way to disable this and keep the clean, original Windows 2000 look and feel? I don't want it to feel like I'm using a patched OS, I want it to feel seamless.

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