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This is exactly the message that needs to be widespread, and i'm sure that on MSFN there are really great security experts (without needing to do silly humor), but it is public forum and i think it's better to alert people rather than saying don't worry because if you stay at your home and you know what you are doing there's no need of AV but in several public institution (schools, hospitals, municipalities) you really can't imagine how many hundreds of pc I've seen with XP (not even embedded) connected to the network with people that do everything.
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On 7/11/2017 at 10:19 PM, sdfox7 said:
Antivirus is overrated. The virus writers are always ahead of the security firms, which means that until definitions are released, the potential to get infected is pretty easy.
I don't use AV on any of my ThinkPads, it hurts performance. I just use Chrome and Firefox, and never have been infected in all these years. My school and home networks are secured by firewalls.
Well, false sense of security is overrated too and really hazardous on XP. Without a serious AV on XP environment your ease is as shaky as your Chrome browser stucked in 49 version. It's well known the most of dangers come from browser and insecure firewall like XP Firewall. So the only thing you can do to secure an old browser (without security updates) is installing an AV like Kaspersky (Free) that integrates itself in the browser to prevent malware exploit on security leak unpatched by the unwilling gg boys.
edit: OInly for experts don't worry.. you can also use Commodore 64 to surf the web in total security.
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Thank you Destro, i was just asking you where was the link to "manually update office" and the screen you cited. When you say there aren't Office 2007 updates list, i think it could maybe be obtained thru WSUS Offline.
I've tried to give another point of view (the famous my 2 cents) on how to turn around the missing office update and speeding up the POSReady updates after clean install. Anyway MSBA seems to be a useful resource cause it gives a specific overview of your system drawing info not only from Microsoft Update but also other offline catalog more comprehensive.
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On 10/11/2017 at 12:31 AM, Dave-H said:
So if you changed the setting, what are you now getting if you click the "Windows Update" entry on the "Tools" drop-down on the menu bar of IE8?
Are you getting Windows Update or Microsoft Update?
Well, if i change setting i get access to a page (as see you can see below) that only let me change 1. Language 2. Show beta products 3. Disable Microsoft Update, nothing compared to W7 "find out more" related to Office.
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"Change settings" wasn't enough, i wouldn't have spent so much time to get back Office updates.
Anyway, if someone can test it on a VM would be great.
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For POSReady updates you can install all KB related to Vista updates hang-up and in 5 minutes you'll get every updates for your new embedded XP machine
For Office updates you must have more care of it. The first moment you open Office after installation is very crucial as well explained here (Office 2007 or 2010 doesn't make difference).
The problem is really simple to overcome on Vista/W7/8/10 cause even if you mess the choice panel (at the first open of the Word) you always can revert this choice, switching from don't make changes(=NO Office updates) to find out more(=install office update) just because W7 integrates this choice whenever you want.
Instead if you are on XP environment and you missed the first choice (don't make change) you can forget Office updates.
In this case you can do 2 things:
A) re-installation of Office and be careful this time at the first open
B) install Microsoft Baseline Security Analyzer 2.3, launch it and ensure you have checked the underlined option in the screen below. After an MBSA completed scan (several minutes are requested the first time) you will be prompted your updates are ready and you will find between others, also Office updates.
I've tried to group the previous posts but now i don't know how to delete the redundant ones.
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I will use your suggestions for Office, but i hope to resolve for XP (POS ready), cause this procedure makes no sense if you do not receive speedly POS security updates!
I avoid SP4, despite working greatly in its funcionality, settings for language pack are instable.
5 hours ago, Destro said:Obviously you want to manually install SP# of office 1st. lastly if you are not using Microsoft update and just using normal windows update you wont get updates for office.
That's another problem i've already reported: from XP/IE8 i can not see the panel where i can set searching update for other MS programs.
Installing all updates cited in this thread (obviously XP/Embedded related) resolve the issue and we get every update for POS & Net Framework!
Still waiting for someone that resolve the lack of Office 2007 Updates.
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Not so lucky, instead. Changing registry (the small one code) worked fine but these days, after a clean installation of XP SP3, i've only obtained svchost.exe steadly at 50% for three days by now (automatic updates & Bits services setted in automatic and started).
I've preliminarly installed KB942288-v3 and also IE8 CU KB4040685 but no way to see any yellow shield with POS updates.
Furthermore updates for Office 2007 freshly installed never appearead too, and i can't find any page accesible on IE8 where i can add further updates for microsoft. I tried to install also Silverlight to have this option but it seems that trick works only for Vista/7.
Can someone tell me if i have to desist at all?
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Thanks 2008WindowsVista your youtube videos are also really useful especially if you can upload it whenever something it's broken in the routine by MS (as some superseeded new KB entries). It would be very appreciated if you extend the video after EOL, including the speed-up patches for Office 07/10 verifying its working.
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On 17/6/2017 at 1:12 AM, erpdude8 said:
you can forget about KB4015195 as it is superseded by KB4019204, which is actually made available for both Vista & Server 2008 this June 2017 on MS Update Catalog.
In May 2017, KB4019204 was made available only for Windows Server 2008 but they actually work for both Vista & Server 2008.
Open the KB4019204 MSU file (either windows6.0-kb4019204-x86_8301605396e05d4b8e2ee38fcb3cd801ad019cce.msu or windows6.0-kb4019204-x86-custom_cc1a90841c15759e36c5095580dfb0b32b34eb8a.msu) using 7zip, extract the "Windows6.0-KB4019204-x86-pkgProperties.txt" or "Windows6.0-KB4019204-x86-custom-pkgProperties.txt" file and read the ApplicabilityInfo line in that TXT file. It says "ApplicabilityInfo="Windows Vista SP2;Windows Server Core SP2;Windows Server 2008 SP2;", which means the KB4019204 packages can be installed onto both Vista and Server 2008.
Thanks erpdude8, your information it's really updated, not even Dalai has updated that thing as also his script reported April 2017
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I've just insalled Office 2007 and after manual installation of SP3 and the 2 famous/infamous update KB3203441 (word) + KB3191827 (excel), no hanging problems just no updates are offered by Windows Update for Office. I really can't believe post Office SP3 no updates was released by WU.
Have you ever experienced that issue?
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The paradox is that laptop (a ~18") was in their mind designed as a multimedia kickass, but that chip set on fire with ridicolous office work.
Do you think a GPU Temp of 72-73° in normally browsing is allarming?
Just some day before i-ve done a deep clean inside according to your advices.
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Thanks Jadaz, your XP experience could be a big indication of innocence for W.Aero, despite that terrible Nvidia Series are too much frail to exclude 100% that greater resource demand of W.Aero could have no impact at all on GPU/Chip lifespan.
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I have a laptop with Vista and a Nvidia Geforce Go 7400 (a series most famous for its factory defects than its performance) stumbled several times in overheat trouble resolved with reballing or replached chip.
So, my question is: disabling Windows Aero can prevent or minimize the risk of breaking once again the chip?
More generally: how much Aero layout impact on GPU stress?
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On 14/6/2017 at 2:16 PM, bbq said:
I just updated my Vista x86 machine:
The missing cumulative policy for Server 2008 (6.0) updates forces us to update manually and individually every update.
If I install a clean copy of Vista and updated with the specific Vista update, after that i have doubts on WSUSoffline. If i download all the Server 2008 update can i risk to overload system installing a lot of update that i have just installed for specific Vista and are basically the same but in Server 2008 version?
Is there some workaround to let WSUS download Server 2008 update only starting by 11 April 2017?
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Right!! i think this link https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_vista-update/updates-not-working-it-has-been-searching-for/92cd6922-17f6-4730-b46b-91a480b95dd3 is the definitive guide for Vista clean install.
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sorry i didn't want to go OT, but i'm grateful for your support. As you have already guessed, i was speaking of MSE (i told it in a appropriate topic) and only MSE working beside EMET 5.2. The CPU increased usage driven by the update/scan was ok (as expected) but the bad is when occasionally that increase brought even to a BSOD. MsMpEng impact on CPU going from 50% -> 70% -> 90%-> 100% (1-2 minute hanging) -> BSOD!. Problem resolved with a quick MSE uninstall, leaving EMET and other free AV
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18 hours ago, VistaLover said:
While I see you're referring to major security (and other) updates for the whole OS, I have Windows Defender enabled and I still see that "icon" pop up in the tray area to prompt me to install def updates for WD; and if you happen to have installed other MS products for which MS support is still ongoing, then, I assume, that WU icon in the tray area is still relevant...
Lately, I've dismissed WD i had problems with mse occupying randomly 50%-70% cpu
and i get it as a further MS invite to leave Vista, but someday i came here 0 -
thanks sasza for your explanations, that closes the search for me: windows vista update icon belongs to memories
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For long period i used the version cited (4.4.304) on XP and Vista but MSE.exe slows down everything (apparently randomly) so i really had to dismiss it.
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Hey boys thank you, it's since 11 april I hopefully search something like POSReady for XP could be implemented on Vista, as this working flawless for XP, so finally i found the stuff here. But it's not exactly what I expected: I know that nowadays update come in monthly rollup version and so you have to search on Microsoft Catalog just once in a month for security/net framework update but i really would like to know if something in XP POSREADY style
Windows Registry Editor Version 6.0 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\?????\??W2K8????] "Installed"=dword:00000001could be applied on Vista to still receive the Server 2008 update without doing it manually on MS Update Catalog site
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Fantastic topic, never seen something more exhaustive on Vista before. Thank you for the nice workaround on Acrobat DC!
I feel that i come back often on first page
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and i get it as a further MS invite to leave Vista, but someday i came here 
POSReady 2009 updates ported to Windows XP SP3 ENU
in Windows XP
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So much helpful information, that needs to be stitched