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OK. I installed KB888111 update which is the Microsoft UAA Bus Driver for High Definition Audio. After the install the entry in Device Manager under Other Devices: "PCI Device" with the Instance ID: VEN_8086&DEV_27D8&SUBSYS_2A2B103C&REV_01 changed to "Audio Device on High Definition Audio Bus" with the Instance ID: VEN_10EC&DEV_0882&SUBSYS_103C0000&REV_1001 and the Registry key is: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0882&SUBSYS_103C0000&REV_1001. Solved one problem and created another one. Actually this is probably a step in the right direction. But something is still missing and I still have no sound. Device Manager properties for this device, General tab, says "The drivers for this device are not installed. (Code 28)". Here is part of the logging in the setupapi log file generated by the install: #I060 Set selected driver. #-019 Searching for hardware ID(s): hdaudio\func_01&ven_10ec&dev_0882&subsys_103c0000&rev_1001,hdaudio\func_01&ven_10ec&dev_0882&subsys_103c0000 #-018 Searching for compatible ID(s): hdaudio\func_01&ven_10ec&dev_0882&rev_1001,hdaudio\func_01&ven_10ec&dev_0882,hdaudio\func_01&ven_10ec,hdaudio\func_01 #-019 Searching for hardware ID(s): hdaudio\func_01&ven_10ec&dev_0882&subsys_103c0000&rev_1001,hdaudio\func_01&ven_10ec&dev_0882&subsys_103c0000 #-018 Searching for compatible ID(s): hdaudio\func_01&ven_10ec&dev_0882&rev_1001,hdaudio\func_01&ven_10ec&dev_0882,hdaudio\func_01&ven_10ec,hdaudio\func_01 #-166 Device install function: DIF_SELECTBESTCOMPATDRV. #W059 Selecting best compatible driver failed. Error 0xe0000228: There are no compatible drivers for this device. #W157 Default installer failed. Error 0xe0000228: There are no compatible drivers for this device. The "dev_0882" refers to the RealTek (ASUS) sound chip which is an ALC882 and I assume they mean there are no compatible drivers for this device included in this update. It did install the following files which were never on this computer before (except for portcls.sys): "c:\windows\driver cache\i386\portcls.sys" "c:\windows\inf\hdaudbus.inf" "c:\windows\inf\hdaudio.inf" "c:\windows\system32\hdaprop.dll" "c:\windows\system32\hdashcut.exe" "c:\windows\system32\hdaudres.dll" "c:\windows\system32\drivers\hdaudbus.sys" "c:\windows\system32\drivers\hdaudio.sys" I did read on the MS website in the article about the Microsoft UAA Bus Driver for High Definition Audio that all audio devices disclosed by vendors as of August 2004 are included in this update. Is it possible that because this computer was released in 2005, the sound chip was also new and so was not included in this update? I assumed that because a motherboard takes time to develop, that it would have been completed well before the release date and would have been disclosed in time to make this update. I guess I could be wrong about that. But now where do I go with this? Seems like I need the update for this that came a little later. Think I'll try the MgDX website. They're a pretty good repository of all the old updates. Unless you have another idea.

There was no sound. But the system does see the audio device there...it just can't use it because there's no bus driver. Here's some more of what I found out there: VEN_8086&DEV_27D8&SUBSYS_2A2B103C&REV_01 Microsoft UAA Bus Driver for High Definition Audio And I have found a website that has it for download. Only problem right now is that I get an error code that the websites server is having a problem so I can't download it right now. At least that solves this problem....when their server is back up. Also this: VEN_14F1&DEV_2F20&SUBSYS_200C14F1&REV_00 is the Conexant D850 PCI V.92 Modem driver. That shouldn't be too hard to find. And this: VEN_8086&DEV_27DA&SUBSYS_2A2B103C&REV_01 is the SM Bus Controller. That's got to do with the card reader. But this one ACPI\AWY0001\2&daba3ff&0 could be a problem. Searching Google shows a lot of people have this problem. I'm searching for a solution but right now this doesn't seem to be causing a problem. Only thing I notice different between XP on the eMachines and XP on the HP is when I hit the Turn Off Computer button on the Start Menu, the choices on the eMachines are Hibernate/Turn Off/Restart and on the HP they are Stand By/Turn Off/Restart.. ACPI is the Advanced Configuration and Power Interface and that might have something to do with those choices on the HP. I did install the drivers for the Hauppage TV Tuner Card and that has come off the list of problem devices.

OK. Then I had it in the right jack. It was colored light green like my other computer. On this one they don't print the name of what connects to it just a symbol. But it does seem that the system sees there's something there. I'm going to try what j7n said before I give up and get a sound card. Apprecite all your help.

Will do.

I just checked out the site but I don't have the instance ID's with me today. I'll have to do it tomorrow. It does look promising. Thanks.

No. it's not on my system. Also it's not a sound card. It's definitely onboard but apparently implemented as a PCI device. That changes the nature of this.

OK. Tried that test last night and I didn't hear any pop. But I can't be sure the speaker jack was the right one. There are so many audio outputs on this baby.

Thanks. That's what I suspected since some of my searching landed me on a page that said some audio chips are implemented as a PCI device. That pretty much confirms it.

No. I didn't get time last night but I will tonight. I do know what you are talking about. When Windows starts there's a momentary "pop" in the speakers in all my versions of Windows. One other thing I didn't mention was that in Device Manager under Sound and Audio Devices all the codecs are there, just not the device that uses them. So do I need to look for an Intel driver for the audio?

OK. Here's what I just got off of HP's support website: Onboard audio or audio card Integrated Intel High Definition (TM) audio (Azalia) Realtek ALC 882 CODEC Supports up to 8 audio channels Dolby Pro Logic IIx compatible So it is not a Realtek chip but an Intel chip? That would be good news regarding this: VEN_8086&DEV_27D8&SUBSYS_2A2B103C&REV_01 PCI bus 0, device 27, function 0 As you say VEN_8086 indicates an Intel device. However, I did peek into the cabinet and saw a chip with the ASUS name printed on it which I think Realtek is a division or TM of ASUS. According to the above from the HP website, Realtek only provides the CODECS. I guess that makes sense. What do you think? Also, HP website says the only jumpers are for clearing the CMOS or the BIOS password.

OK. Here are the problem devices listed in Device Manager under Other Devices. Under each catagory, first line is instance ID and second line is location information. * Multimedia Video Controller: (believe this is TV Tuner card) VEN_4444&DEV_0016&SUBSYS_88010070&REV_01 PCI bus 2, device 4, function 0 * PCI Device: (audio or LAN card?) VEN_8086&DEV_27D8&SUBSYS_2A2B103C&REV_01 PCI bus 0, device 27, function 0 * PCI Simple Communications Controller: (believe this is the modem card) VEN_14F1&DEV_2F20&SUBSYS_200C14F1&REV_00 PCI bus 2, device 5, function 0 * SM Bus Controller: (no idea but believe this has to do with the card reader) VEN_8086&DEV_27DA&SUBSYS_2A2B103C&REV_01 PCI bus 0, device 31, function 3 * Unknown Device: (audio or ? ACPI suggests something else) ACPI\AWY0001*AWY0001 no location information

Thanks for the advice. That's what I thought too. That if there was a problem with the sound chip itself, it would probably be very noticeable at startup. Either the BIOS or Windows wouldn't have liked that at all. Here's something I saw for the first time in XP. I inadvertently did something that Windows didn't like at all and it just snapped into reboot mode. When Windows started up again I had the Active Desktop Recovery screen, with the big rectangular Restore My Active Desktop button, just like 98 and ME. Didn't even know that was still being used in XP. One thing I tried but couldn't do was putting ME on another PATA drive in the computer I'm rebuilding for that exact same reason. About 10 seconds into the ME install I got the message that it couldn't continue because that computer uses SATA drives except for the CD ROM drives. So on that computer I have know way to tweak XP unless I installed something like Linux. Learn something new all the time.

Thanks. I'll go ahead and do that. There are about 5 devices with the exclamation point in the yellow triangle in Device Manager and I know one is the LAN card and one is the TV Tuner card. I thought the others might be the card reader but now I think not because there are 4 extra removeable drives listed in My Computer and that's the number of slots the card reader has. So I think the install handled them. BTW, I'm learning some knew stuff here as my other system (daily driver) was an overlay (upgrade) over WinME and this one is a clean install. I see now that the install handles those situations differently. That was unexpected. Also see that you have a triple boot system. So do I. The daily driver has Win98SE on one drive,WinME on another drive and WinXP on another drive. One of the nice things about that is when XP won't let me do something in it, I just boot over to ME and operate on the XP drive from there. Bet you do the same thing. Plus there's the advantage of playing older games that don't run well or at all on the newer systems. I'll let you know what happens about the VEN_10EC id if it's one of the instances listed in Device Manager under Problem Devices.

Yes. There are several devices I haven't yet loaded drivers for because they are not critical yet. Was trying to get the minimal stuff going first which is video and audio. I do have one unknown device but it's instance ID isn't HDAudio. I suppose that it might still be that one but I won't know until I can find the driver for the audio chip. Just out of curiosity, what if the sound chip was not working. Would the system still go ahead and load up or would it crash with an error at startup? Just covering all bases.

I did check the BIOS setup and audio was disabled so I enabled it but it made no difference. One thing I did see in my searches is that some of these boards implement the on board audio chip as a PCI device. Also found out that if it had been listed in Device Manager it should have had an instance that started out as HDAudio....etc.

Problem is it's not even listed in device manager under the audio category. According to the specs on this computer the sound chip is integrated which I take as to mean it's on the motherboard and not a sound card in a PCI slot.

I've been searching for audio drivers for a computer I've been restoring. It's an HP Media Center m7480n. It has the Asus Motherboard P5LP-LE (Emery) which has the Realtek ALC 882 (integrated) chipset. Does anyone know of a place I can download these from. Keep in mind they must be for XP. Thanks

That driver I did find on the web but I haven't installed it yet. It wasn't a top priority since this is a stand alone desktop. I'm pretty sure that is one of the problem devices. Starting from scratch w/o the installation/restore disk takes a long time. Appreciate your reply.

Thanks for the replies. I'll try your ideas. BTW the memory card reader is HP P/N 5070-0842. The computer is the HP Media Center m7480n desktop. Should have put that in yesterday. I do believe the registry assigned device instance ID is in Device Manager. I looked when I first spotted the problem. Too bad I didn't get the HP Installation/Restore disk with the computer as it would have had all that on it. Now it becomes a chase it down thing. Thanks again.

I've been resurrecting an HP m7480n Media Center desktop I was given. It did not come with the original installation disk so I installed Win XP Pro. It originally came with the Win XP Media edition. When I finished the install and checked Device Manager to be sure everything installed correctly, there were 4 or 5 entries in the USB category that were "Unknown". I believe this is the memory card reader that supports the following cards: Compact Flash I, Compact Flash II, SmartMedia, Memory Stick, Memory Stick Pro, MultiMediaCard, Secure Digital (SD), Micro Drive and XD Picture Card. Does anyone know where I can get the driver(s) for this device. I don't know the MFG right now but could pull it out from the computer to get the name and model. Thanks.

Tried it last night but didn't do anything to fix the problem. But I think I may have found the reason why the "Web Document" tab is missing. Just out of curiosity I looked into \Program files\Internet Explorer and found that the version of Iexplore was 6 but the registry entries for Internet Explorer are version 8. Makes me wonder if Windows did that sneaky switch on me because I did put version 8 files into the \Program files\Internet Explorer directory. It's just a guess but maybe for .url files Explorer passes part of the job of displaying the properties page off to Internet Explorer and if the registry version is different than the file version Windows probably just ignores it and does nothing. I'm going to test that theory tonight. Thanks for your help.

Hey thanks. I'll give this a try and let you know what happens.

I just re-installed Win XP Pro (w/SP2) on a new drive after the old drive finally died. I then overlayed my backup from the Win XP Pro (w/SP2) that was on the drive that died to save time re-installing apps and re-doing all the personal settings. Everything is fine except that the "Web Document" tab is missing on the properties page of all files that are Internet shortcuts (.url files) and the icons associated with those files are not displayed either. The Win XP Pro in that backup did display the Internet shortcuts correctly including the "Web Document" tab. Since I have more than one OS on my system, I booted into Win ME and right clicked on one of those Internet shortcuts and selected properties and it is displayed correctly and the "Web Document" tab is there. This tells me that the .url files are not corrupted. So that is not the problem. I looked in the XP registry and the .url extension was not there in HKCR (Classes Root) so I entered it in but that didn't help. I have "Googled" this problem and see that others have had this same problem too, but the provided fix didn't help them or me either. If I'm not mistaken, Explorer is the app in charge of displaying file properties. I checked the file version of Explorer in both the new installation and the backup and the versions are the same...6.0.2900.2180. Seemed to me that this might be a problem with file associations so I looked at the "File Types" tab of "Folder Options". "Internet Shortcut" is listed near the top of the list but with no icon associated with it and no app associated with it when you click on the "Advanced" button (Open, Print, etc.). Also there is no .URL extension listed. I'm stumped. I guess I could try overlaying the XP backup registry hive again but I would like to see if any of you have had this problem and have a solution that works. Thanks.

Never mind. I'll figure it out myself.

Awhile back I had asked for help with a problem in getting sound out of DOOM95. I had to do a clean install of Windows 98SE retail and after applying all the updates, etc. I went through everything (all the programs on the START menu) to be sure everything was working. When I got to DOOM95 I noticed that there was no sound and no mouse support (only the keyboard). I searched the web for an answer to this and tried various suggestions but nothing worked. Just the other day it occurred to me that I should look at the Config.sys and Autoexec.bat files since DOOM95 is a DOS game. Config.sys is completely blank and Autoexec.bat has only a few system directives in it. I'm thinking this is the problem. With DOS based games shouldn't there be some "device = " entries that load a sound driver and a mouse driver? I think Win 95 and Win 98 FE & SE make no assumptions for DOS and I have to specify what is needed. When I installed the game on Win ME it worked perfect from the start without touching Config.sys or Autoexec.bat but then Win ME has DOS "sucked" into it and it probably does know what to load. The install program for DOOM95 makes no entries in those files for you. It might have been mentioned in the manual that came with the game but I don't have that manual. So, if this is the problem, what sound and mouse drivers should I be using for the "device =" entries? I did a "find files" in Explorer and it comes up with several sound and mouse drivers but which ones should I use....the ones with a ".drv" extension or the ones with a ".sys" extension? And I should probably also add HIGHMEM, UMB AND EMM386 to give it some memory to work with. Any thoughts?