Thanks for the replies. Sorry for the vague description I'm new, but anyway here it is. Device Description WDC WD1200JB-00GVA0 (WD-WCALA1632771) Field Value ATA Device Properties Model ID WDC WD1200JB-00GVA0 Serial Number WD-WCALA1632771 Revision 08.02D08 Parameters 232581 cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors per track, 600 bytes per sector LBA Sectors 234441648 Buffer 8 MB (Dual Ported, Read Ahead) Multiple Sectors 16 ECC Bytes 74 Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4 Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 5 (ATA-100) Active UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 5 (ATA-100) Unformatted Capacity 134149 MB ATA Device Features SMART Supported Security Mode Supported Power Management Supported Advanced Power Management Not Supported Write Cache Supported Host Protected Area Supported Power-Up In Standby Not Supported Automatic Acoustic Management Supported 48-bit LBA Supported Device Configuration Overlay Supported ATA Device Manufacturer Company Name Western Digital Corporation Product Information http://www.westerndigital.com/en/products ***note its not the cables the last HD I hocked up as a slave was a 20 gig but that one was corrupt and three trojan