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))) I don't know, but this is open forum and topic. It is stupid thinking that they don't looking here. Absolutely, I'm sure they know of this. Doesn't mean they are going to do anything about it.

I don't think Microsoft ever said anything about it not being possible, or for that matter ever commenting on it at all beyond the "it's no longer a feature" on the building windows 8 blog - and do you have a source link somewhere stating that stardock is even working on such a feature? Not to downplay bigmuscle's work, he has done an impressive job. Just pointing out that I think you are pulling claims out of thin air. I think it don't need at all. Microsoft knows what happends there, and just waiting. Waiting for what?

I don't think Microsoft ever said anything about it not being possible, or for that matter ever commenting on it at all beyond the "it's no longer a feature" on the building windows 8 blog - and do you have a source link somewhere stating that stardock is even working on such a feature? Not to downplay bigmuscle's work, he has done an impressive job. Just pointing out that I think you are pulling claims out of thin air.

Thanks for your response. I did not found a dwm.exe on the site to download the dll file. Where can i found the DWM.exe file ? DWM.exe is a system binary that ships with Windows in C:\Windows\System32. What he's saying, though, is that whereever you placed the .dll he provided is a place that the DWM process (once loaded and running) does not have permissions to write to.

What about the snipping tool?

Chances are just disabling it in the theme still applies the accent color, but will now be even more intense since there's no opacity component. You need to actually disable the colorization in code and enable blur as well. I though bigmuscle's program did both? This is only achievable through code, not just changing the theme.

How is continually clicking "OK" to dismiss a popup nag helping to test the software? How does it aid the testing process? Intentionally annoying people as you describe is a terrible way to build goodwill for your software if and when it does go for sale. No offense but I'm not sure who's worse - Microsoft for removing Aero Glass, or the attitude of the guy trying to add it back in. Anyone who complains that one popup per hour is too annoying to test clearly is not actually testing this software. Testing this application does not mean "turn it on forever and go about your day as if nothing is different." It means you load it up and try particular tasks for an hour or two, then report your findings. Bigmuscle has no attitude. If anything it's the people like you that need your attitudes adjusted because you clearly have no respect. Bigmuscle's post about the people like you who are complaining sums it up pretty well, you should go find the post a few pages back.

He's not stopping development, he's just no longer releasing public builds until he's done. I know it's hard to find the post in the many pages of mess, but he said it somewhere in there... EDIT: Here:

We know it´s for testing only, but to test means to have to run it regularly. I can´t need a one hour message telling me what I already know so I stopped testing it days ago the more so as all issues I had are mentioned here already. What I deserve is not up to you to decide by the way. You're absolutely right, that's not for me to decide. It's for big muscle to decide how you may use his software. It's also very easy to test within an hours time. An hour is a pretty long time to be using a computer, and the only scenario where it would not work is extended game of video playback, a scenario that can be tested well within an hour. You're pretending as if testing requires it to be running 24/7, which is not true.

So you are that angry about deltebews that you stopped publishing new versions? Should Microsoft stop publishing updates for Windows 8, because a little hacker cracks their user inteface and enables Aero Glass? You are not doing this for fun, you want to make money and this is why you are afraid of versions with removed notifications. There is no cracked Aero Glass for Win8 because there are is no disclaimer by the way. And it is very clear that your final app, when released, will be cracked like every charged program. Don´t tell us, you wasn´t aware of that. I personally resepct your work, but not your behavior here. And in my opinion I can live with a Aero Glass free Windows 8 when it´s therefor liberated from obtrusive BIG MUSCLE placards. The sheer amount of disrespect in this post is absolutely astounding. After straight up telling you he is doing it for fun and wishes people respect his notifications, you tell him he is lying and wrong, and that you know better than his own intentions? It amazes me that you would consider HIS behavior inappropriate. It's probably a good thing he is now developing it privately. People like you and others here that are trying to defend any of deltebew's actions don't even deserve to use it. How many times does bigmuscle have to try to explain that this is for testing purposes only and IS NOT meant to be used regularly? It's as if you people are a couple of children constantly throwing a tantrum about how "I want it now!" If it weren't for bigmuscle you wouldn't even have what you currently do, be grateful for that.

True This kind of thought is incredibly disrespectful. Bigmuscle has just spent months working very hard on a great product. People constantly nagged about this feature and he asked that it be left be. Reasons for this are his own - He wants it to stay a preview and not be used, it's beta software that he is going to sell, etc. Why he chose to do so is not our business. Then going and ignoring the request of the person doing ALL the work, removing the popup and posting it for everyone to use is completely disrespectful. How is it 'cracking'? How is it not? He did the definition of cracking a feature: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_cracking Do you think that it's OK for someone to create a crack for Windows then say "BTW copyright Microsoft, all credit to them, buy the software if you like it" makes it OK? Please do not try to justify this kind of behavior.

Hmm, I guess this is big enough that there's a decent chance that Microsoft knows about it. Even if they do, I seriously doubt that they care: big companies rarely concern themselves with fan/3rd party stuff like this. Rumor is that 8.1 could bring back aeroglass, which would render this obsolete, but afaik this project is made with a separate rending engine (custom one done in D3D?) or something, so there isn't much else Microsoft could do. I don't understand why people always assume that Microsoft goes around patching their code explicitly to disable things like this. Where do they get this idea? Also where did you hear that rumor? Is it some form of pure speculation about the rumors of the start button?

Welp, I was just playing a game for 45 minutes and got the popup right in the middle of the action which put the game into windowed mode and made me have to stop and deal with it. Uninstalling. I'd love to have Aero Glass back some day and hopefully BM reconsiders these obnoxious popups. Big muscle has made it clear many times that this is not intended to be used all the time, it is a preview and beta version, not a final product. If you don't want popups don't leave it running.

I take that back. I do see a very brief time where the title isn't colored when starting a window. It might be just not filled, I'm not sure. I checked my Windows 7 system and it seems to bring in the Aero Glass effect with the window as it fades in and tilts forward. I wonder whether duplicating ALL those things on ALL possible systems is a really tall order. -Noel I've tested this before and from my tests Windows 7 did not do that. The fade in animation did not have glass, it's just very difficult to tell due to the extra layers of sheen and shine from the visual style.

No that's not the issue, it's 99.999% likely the layered windows. Every render to the screen will have to be composited to the desktop with 99% transparency and alpha blended to everything behind it. The glass in the non-client area shouldn't have any effect on your game, since it's only rendered when it needs to be recomposited (something behind it changes). Aero glass and desktop composition is actually very seldom disabled when you play games, I've actually only seen a couple that do, and it's usually at the request of the application.

I can guarantee 100% that 1+3 are. I have seen a picture earlier in the thread which points to 4 also being in the style. 2 may be possible, but makes things harder for bigmuscle, and it sounds like he won't support it anyway. Maybe down the line someone else will play with the code.

1 + 3 are related to the visual style, and you can get them simply by downloading a new one, and are unrelated to what bigmuscle is doing. The landscapes theme is also just a theme you can copy over from Windows 7, no fuss. Colors, wallpapers, everything. I've been pretty surprised about the number of people requesting rounded corners. Personally I always hated them . The moment I found a theme that squared away all the UI elements in Windows 7 I was so happy. To each his own, I suppose. It turns out that glowing caption buttons are also from the visual style since someone else on this thread was able to do it. Oh interesting, I didn't know that. I might have to go play with that Don't get your hopes up, but there is a possibility that rounded corners might be able to be made with the VS also. I say this because a visual style earlier in this thread was able to achieve this on the thumbnail previews, so it *might* also be possible on the main windows. But I don't want rounded corners . I was referring to the glowing buttons, another thing I don't care much about, but might be nice to play with.

1 + 3 are related to the visual style, and you can get them simply by downloading a new one, and are unrelated to what bigmuscle is doing. The landscapes theme is also just a theme you can copy over from Windows 7, no fuss. Colors, wallpapers, everything. I've been pretty surprised about the number of people requesting rounded corners. Personally I always hated them . The moment I found a theme that squared away all the UI elements in Windows 7 I was so happy. To each his own, I suppose. It turns out that glowing caption buttons are also from the visual style since someone else on this thread was able to do it. Oh interesting, I didn't know that. I might have to go play with that

1 + 3 are related to the visual style, and you can get them simply by downloading a new one, and are unrelated to what bigmuscle is doing. The landscapes theme is also just a theme you can copy over from Windows 7, no fuss. Colors, wallpapers, everything. I've been pretty surprised about the number of people requesting rounded corners. Personally I always hated them . The moment I found a theme that squared away all the UI elements in Windows 7 I was so happy. To each his own, I suppose.

I ran 0.3 on my 6950 and it ran great, I haven't tried 0.4 or 0.5 though.

The addition of the ribbon changed the layout of explorer windows so they had to change the blurred area back to just the area on top. Kind of a shame that the glass doesn't at least extend to the ribbon menu buttons like it does in office 2010. That would've been cool.

In 0.4 or in that private build? In all versions dude, all versions have lag, I don't care if you fix it or not, but just give me an explanation. I told you, to fix the lag I have to make the GPU gaming profile fixed, but who want 50+C GPU temp in idle/desktop mode... This tells me that your pretty app is hunger for GPU resources, I understand, debug version, alpha, etc. but I still want some answers. Thank you. Sounds more like your drivers aren't properly adjusting power states for the workload. Even if his implementation required 10x the resources and workload of MS's it should not produce a noticeable effect with a GTX 670 - it should be more than powerful enough to run dozens of fullscreen sheets of solid glass on top of each other without a hiccup. The problem is very likely on your end (drivers or profiles you made) since very few others seem to have the issue on what I would imagine to be less powerful hardware, unless everyone in this thread has a GTX680. I had no problem running his glass implementation from 0.3 on my 6950 and it showed almost no GPU utilization and near idle temperatures. And your GTX 670 should be faster than my 6950.

I can't say it reminds me of metro in the slightest. The old XP royale theme does spring to mind though.

It works. But please give me some answers about the lag, win 7 aero runs fine with GPU desktop clock profile... After closing the loader the windows are still laggy Because this isn't the native implementation, and is probably slightly less efficient because he has to use workarounds to achieve a similar result. Relax and give him some time to get it to beta stage before you start complaining. You should be grateful that the person doing all the (extremely difficult) work got it to work at all

+1, rounded corners is the one part of the Vista/7 theme that I've always hated. I am glad they changed it, but as with everything, I think it should be configurable by the user. It's a lot of work though, because the theme's window corners would have to match the radius chosen at runtime. Not impossible to do, but probably not worth the work.