I have many floppy boot disks out there most of wich load usb drivers to allow the use of usb deviced, however what I am after is booting a usb drive on a machine that does now support usb bootable devices. I have a 80GB notebook drive 2.5" in a external usb drive enclosure. I have bartpe installed on it but i want to be able to boot to the USB drive. I also have many bartpe cd/dvds that I use but my target audience does not have any cdrom drives for security reasons. Granit I am not a developer by any means but I wouldnt think it would be to hard to have a bootloader be called by some exe os some sort after a boot process has already been init. thanks again for the input. MrChris