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4 hours ago, ED_Sln said:
No, he'll just create a new repository where he'll (apparently) upload versions that work starting with Windows XP. He responded to this in the post below.
But based on v91?
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Did I read this right? Is Firefox for Windows 7 now kaput?
https://github.com/e3kskoy7wqk/Firefox-for-windows-7/issues/170#issuecomment-5009245854
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On 5/27/2026 at 6:53 PM, Jody Thornton said:
While I'm here, has anyone been able to compile either Thunderbird OR Betterbird v140 for Windows 7 and 8x?
So, really? No one is interested in this at all ???
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3 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:
Yeah, I kind of assumed upstream as "e3k-blah" is also affected.
I know these forks are free, and it's their time, but if you're going to commit, then commit. Don't deliver because, "I don't feel like it".
The browser artist known as e3k-blah (I friggin love that), is not going to further compile any ESR 140x builds. I appreciate these builds, but either deliver consistently, or don't.
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While I'm here, has anyone been able to compile either Thunderbird OR Betterbird v140 for Windows 7 and 8x?
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On 5/25/2026 at 6:49 AM, joop said:
@Jody Thornton
???? Don't understand you. Only see Search Settings, but don't know any idea what the problem with that is.Sorry - I meant top left.
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OK good! So the Firefox 153 DOES run with Windows 8! ... e3kskoy7wqk said he is ONLY supporting Windows 7 on this beta and may restore support later. I am a wee bit worried, so I'm sticking with his ESR 14.x builds for now.
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On 5/7/2026 at 9:06 AM, joop said:
Milestone Chrome 150:
Can you hide the "Search Tabs" button on the top right?
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So if one were using LTSC 2019 (installing it fresh as of April 2026), does that mean we would not have access to all required updates? If I ran the latest cumulative update, we'd be all good and caught up, correct?
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Mozilla really should allow ESR 140x to be backported. If r3dFox and Firefox for Windows 7 can do it, then ...
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3 hours ago, joop said:
Is it known yet whether Firefox 115 ESR support will be extended in February 2026?
On the other hand, I hope Firefox 153 ESR will work on W7 and 8.1, so we can continue with updates for at least another year.
The way I see it, we now have this ... https://github.com/e3kskoy7wqk/Firefox-for-windows-7
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On 12/15/2025 at 3:27 AM, mjd79 said:
I'm using his Firefox ESR builds. They suit me fine. For now, that is
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I still have LTSC 2019 setup, and heavily customized, but I'm putting off using it. I really enjoy Windows 8.
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1 hour ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:
I technically no longer subscribe to "keep XP alive" or "keep 7 alive" ... think that they are somehow "entitled" to the rest of the world keeping their XP or 7 capable of "everything".
Yeah I remember years ago, I used to be very against using old OSs such as XP because of security update issues. Then I relaxed on it, but over the time morphing my stance to just include Vista and up. Now, with my fully ditching any trace of Vista or older, I stick to JUST keeping Windows 8 going. I don't care about the security updates so much. It's just that I like how Windows 8 looks and feels vs Windows 10.
However, I've really started to see Windows XP as archaic. It's odd for me to think that in 2025, Windows XP has ANY place on a running PC, but this time around, I'm not really worried about how others feel about my expressing that opinion.
It just is what it is. When I made a comment in one of Roytam1's threads about using Betterbird vs MailNews or Interlink, I was reminded that the goal was to have a client running on XP or higher. My first thought was, "Oh yeah - that!" It feels more like an irritation that won't go away, rather than a goal to aspire to.
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1 hour ago, EliraFriesnan said:
Here you go, Jody. Sounds very much like considering, no?
" If the rework successfully resolves these challenges,... Otherwise, Chromium for windows 7 will no longer update. "
https://github.com/e3kskoy7wqk/Chromium-for-windows-7/releases
Oh I see. I thought you meant his Firefox builds for 7 and 8. All good then. Whew!
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6 hours ago, EliraFriesnan said:
Just read, he considers dropping off 7, too. Can you ask for a farewell version that works without updates on 32bit Vista? As I suspect, I had missed one or two telemetry updates (intentionally).
Where are you reading that Windows 7 and Vista are not supported?
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2 minutes ago, seven4ever said:
Not a challenge at now. Firefox-esr has still support until april 2026 for them.
Well the forks do. Not the standard product. And there are other applications other than browsers that have challenges. Anyway, all good
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16 minutes ago, AstroSkipper said:
I assume that @Zorba the Geek is looking for a client targeting Windows XP. However, your recommended email client Betterbird requires at least Windows 7 64bit.
Oh yeah! That!
(weird how you forget that this is meant to target XP, once you leave it behind. I'm more of the mindset that says, "Can it at least run on Windows 7 or 8", as that's a challenge now)
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On 11/15/2025 at 2:54 PM, Zorba the Geek said:
There appears to be no documentation supplied for Mailnews, so I hope someone can help me with Gmail and Microsoft Outlook.com mail. They both require OAuth2 authentification, but only Gmail can connect to the server if I use IMAP. When I use POP3 as the incoming Gmail server I receive this message:
OAuth2 does not appear to work with Microsoft Outlook.com mail and it produces the login window uploaded here. I tried enabling 2 step authentification and generating an app password to be used as a normal password, but I receive an error message saying "Username and password not accepted". Does this mean that Mailnews needs to be registered with Microsoft for OAuth2 to work?
I have tried Interlink, MailNews and Epyrus. None of them can work with OAuth2 (at least for Outlook). I've since installed Betterbird, back in the spring. All good now
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7 minutes ago, VistaLover said:
In closing, I'm not being entitled or ungrateful towards the r3dfox author; huge thanks
from my side for what he has offered to me over the last two years or so ...
I COMPLETELY agree @VistaLover. By the way, you really did a complete job in your above assessment. I'm also grateful to what @K4sum1 gave us. But I also need to look after my needs. While I hate that we have a Google-fied web, I've stopped worrying about the implications of all of the privacy issues we face. It's not that I disagree with the level of concern, but it's that we REALLY can do nothing about it. I need to perform online banking, watch and help produce videos on YouTube, use WebRTC to voice traffic reports, and take part in Zoom meetings, Google Meet and Teams Meetings, and apply for work; all which basically NECESSITATES providing a good chunk of personal information to proceed. I don't agree with the corporate tactics, but I must continue to function.
It was indeed K4Sum1's project, as Pale Moon was Moonchild's. What I feel these visionary types (who admittedly deserve a lot of credit for their work), fail to realize is that those that make up their user base are CONSUMERS or CUSTOMERS. Now Moonchild and his "moonie minions" VEHEMENTLY disagree with that. But customers are not just defined as those providing monetary exchange to a company or corporation for a product. They can be those who provide voluntary stake to a company, or mission. So in this way, those who co-develop alongside Moonchild, those who provide add-ons, those who beta test, and YES even those who simply (and regularly) USE Pale Moon, are indeed customers and stakeholders.
When someone creates a project, and it attracts users to the resulting product, such as in K4Sum1's r3dFox, expectations begin to be developed. No matter if these expectations are right or wrong for the userbase to behold, they are real, and the developer needs to contend with them. Those are simply the facts. K4Sum1 provided a way for me to use Windows 8 on an extended basis, and you become reliant on that. When K4Sum1 understandably says, "I'm just not feeling it", it doesn't incite a favourable response among the userbase. Fair? Perhaps not, but it's a very real sentiment.
@K4sum1, I genuinely hope you are OK.
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1 hour ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:
I haven't heard anything.
The recent Eclipse Community discussion seemed to be developmental proposals on the direction the project was headed.
There were some outspoken disapprovals of those proposals. But it didn't come across as "hyper-critical" or anything like that.
But sometimes you never know, it is his project and maybe he just got tired of those "disapprovals".
I kind of doubt it, and hate to "speculate". I'm sure we'll know more soon...
I was worried that may be the case too, as I was a tad vocal on my thoughts of where r3dFox is headed, on the Eclipse Fourm. However, that isn't my saying "You have to do this or that!". I'm vehement on my opinions, and make no apologies for it.
In any case, I have now moved on the Firefox for Windows 7 and 8, since releases seem to be happening more quickly. This is especially the case for ESR builds. I'm glad I switched. Even if my comments were not made, I'm sure there were a lot of vocal proponents of my mindset, including one being a moderator.
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Whew! ESR v140.20 has been released. Yay! And the latest release for the mainstream versions is v141.0.3
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Please delete duplicate post
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Firefox and Chromium working on Older Windows by e3kskoy7wqk.
in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
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I guess the way I look at it is: we had a perfectly good compilation of current Firefox in both release and ESR flavours that already worked on Windows 7 and 8x. That's all I want. XP and Vista can now be damned whereas 7 and 8x can be more easily made to work.
I'd be happy if e3k-etc
could just release a more up to date version of v140 ESR. He already has it working with with v140.0.11, so just recompile the next one. Sigh!