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JFYI: http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=9765 jaclaz

Ok, please don't take it as an offence , but I've rarely seen such a mess in BOTH the two hard disks connected to a same machine . Mind you, not necessarily one of the items I will point out will be the culprit, but if it is true (and believe me it is true when it comes to this field) that Murphy's Law is valid: the current setup is what could be defined in layman's terms as "asking for trouble" . 1st Hard disk (hd0): This hard disk has been evidently been partitioned on a motherboard that uses 240 sectors (Lenovo? ) for Head geometry. The MBR code is grub4dos. 1st entry in partition table is correct (hd0,0), Primary, the filesystem is NTFS 07 formatted under 2K/XP/2003 2nd entry in partition table is correct (hd0,1), Primary, the filesystem is NTFS 07 formatted under 2K/XP/2003 3rd entry in partition table is WRONG (hd0,2), it is 1F that means "HIDDEN EXTENDED", which is no good, you have a 0F (LBA mapped Extended partition) containing any number of Logical Volumes (one in your case). You don't normally hide the WHOLE Extended partition, but rather the Logical Volumes inside it. Entry in Extended Partition table (which you did not include in the archive, since it cannot be made with HDhacker) should be either 0B (from the grub4dos geometry result) or 0C (rightfully it should be 0C), filesystem of the logical volume (hd0,4) is FAT32 formatted under 2K/XP/2003. 2nd Hard disk (hd1): This hard disk has been evidently been partitioned on a motherboard that uses 255 sectors ("Standard") for Head geometry. The MBR code is LEGACY GRUB. 1st entry in partition table is correct (hd1,0), Primary, the filesystem is FAT32 0C formatted under DOS 7.x/Win9x 2nd entry in partition table is WRONG (hd1,1), Primary, the filesystem is FAT32 0B formatted possibly under Linux by mkdosfs, this partition DOES NOT respect Cylynder/Head boundaries 3rd entry in partition table is correct (hd1,2), Primary, the filesystem is Linux EXT2/3 - without bootsector cannot say more 4th entry in partition table is WRONG (hd1,3), Extended, 05 type (should be 0F), but Cylinder and Head boundary are respected. Entry in Extended Partition table (which you did not include in the archive, since it cannot be made with HDhacker) should be 07, filesystem of the logical volume (hd1,4) is NTFS formatted under Vista/Windows7. There is NOT one reason in the world to use an Extended Partition to create in it one single volume. There are TWO advantages in using an Extended partition instead of a Primary: occupying one single entry in the MBR you can have as many volumes as you like (whilst with Primaries you need to use one of the four entries in the MBR for each volume) - which you are NOT taking advantage of since you have only one volume in it relatively safer against "dumb" virus corruption - which is pointless in your case since you are using on BOTH drives the single logical volume as "swap". Given that you are NOT going to run on that PC: MS-DOS <=6.22 Windows NT 3.5 or 4.00 My advice to fix (as a first step) things is: from grub4dos UNhide (hd0,2) or however write in the MBR 0F instead of 1F in third entry of partition table and, from the booted 2K or XP, delete the logical volume (hd0,4) AND the extended partition (hd0,2) and re-create a FAT32 primary partition to be used for swap of Win9x - consider also having it as FAT16 as it is roughly 1 Gb in size and you won't have small sized files in it from the booted Windows 9x, delete the logical volume (hd1,4) AND the extended partition (hd1,3) and recreate a FAT32 (there is NO point in having a "swap" partition as NTFS, which is normally SLOWER) - consider also having it as FAT16 as it is roughly 1 Gb in size and you won't have small sized files in it from either the Win9x or the 2K or XP backup the contents of (hd1,1) somewhere, then delete the partition and re-create it (this is CRITICAL as right now the CHS address of this partition overlaps (hd1,0) space), formatting it as FAT 32 before restoring the contents or manually correct the CHS values. A "general" advice is to STOP hiding and unhiding partitions "at random" , seemingly there is NO need to in your setup, it may have been useful when installing things in order to hae C:\ as the drive letter of the system drive in ALL windows (exactly what I personally find confusing) but now each OS should behave like that no matter if the other partitions are hidden or not. Your menu.lst right now is a mess due to the whole hiding/unhiding stuff, but besides, there is something wrong, you have to make up your mind, you EITHER use "hardcoded" paths or "relative" ones. Here is a sample with hardcoded paths (with ALL partitions visible): title Windows 2000 Professional (hd0,0) root (hd0,0) chainloader (hd0,0)/ntldr title Windows XP Professional (hd0,1) root (hd0,1) chainloader (hd0,1)/ntldr title Windows 98 SE (hd1,0)->(hd0,0) map (hd0) (hd1) map (hd1) (hd0) map --hook root (hd0,0) chainloader /io.sys title Linux (hd1,2) root (hd1,2) kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sdb3 ro vga=normal The Linux entry misses (like the original) the initrd command, but if it works wiothout it it's allright. At the MOST, you may want to hide the 2K main partition when booting XP and the XP partition when booting 2K, but anything else would be COMPLETELY unneeded. Before doing anything of the above, get tiny hexer and my Structure viewers: http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=8734 and check the MBR's and bootsectors with it/them, you should be able to check all of the above. Only you can say WHY the first hard disk uses a 240 Head gemetry and the second doesn't, and if this is by design or should be corrected, one way or the other. jaclaz

On the pages you found there are (among other drivers that may be useful) the 5314: http://www.lucoms.co.kr/service/down.asp?filename=5314.zip and the 5316: http://www.lucoms.co.kr/service/down.asp?filename=BIOS%20V.5316.zip BIOSes, besides a (possibly updated) PFLASH utility: http://www.lucoms.co.kr/service/down.asp?filename=Phdisk(4).zip But I seem like NOT being able to find the 5320 update. The links to PDF, unless I am mistaken, lead to nowhere, they are both about "standard" desktop motherboards and their content may (but more likely completetely fails to) apply to your CN530. jaclaz

You'll have to do some experiments, there are a number of factors that can influence the way an invoked app will run, including the particular subset you are running (PE 3.x). Using the Start /wait you are guranteed that the next BCDboot command will NOT be executed until the imagex has completed, as said, since it is likely that there will be timing problems, it is very possible that in ADDITION to the start /wait you will need to insert a command to have some small delay between the imagex and the bootbcd commands. The only way to know is to experiment: jaclaz

Probably no, cannot say if in the booted PE "x:\windows\system32\" is already in PATH , but I presume it is. Try with: "Next time I will read given links" http://ss64.com/nt/start.html jaclaz

Maybe that's part of the problem, or at least of the communication problems : if grub4dos sees it as (hd0,2) it is NOT a logical volume inside extended, but rather a PRIMARY, and if it it 0x0B it is NOT hidden! Quick thing to remember: to hide a partion you add 10 hex to the normal "visible" partition ID: http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/partitions/partition_types-1.html It is also "queer" that the (hd0,2) partition is of type 0x0B as it is (seemingly) at the end of the first hard disk thus probably well past the CHS limit. It is possible that due to the various attempts you did partition entries are not normally ordered as usual and this may also be part of the problem. Please get HDhacker and save the MBR of both hard disk and (first sector of \\.\PhysicalDriven), and, additionally, the bootsector of each partition (first sector of the \\.\LogicalDrivex). Compress all the files in a .zip and attach it to your next post. As you might know (or maybe not) I have my peculiar ideas on how drives should be partitioned: http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=33964&st=6 and remember that the above was years before we had grub4dos and found how to also boot from logical volumes inside extended too, but the good ol' way never failed, and I still recommend it (when possible - not your case - unless you want to re-install everything): http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=6480&st=9 jaclaz

To find the site is nothing (for a finder ), the problem is finding the actual file (or at least a filename), sitre is here, but I don't have the time to check all the links (and I am not saying that going through them you may be able to find something useful ): http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.dwt.co.kr/computer/support/download/driver/* Here is some info: http://note.pe.kr/mainhtml/kijung/daewoo_cn530.html http://translate.google.it/translate?hl=it&sl=ko&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fnote.pe.kr%2Fmainhtml%2Fkijung%2Fdaewoo_cn530.html There is some loose talk about 5314 and 5316 BIOS. Possibly back to Wim's BIOS: http://www.wimsbios.com/forum/topic1027.html maybe rainbow kept a copy somewhere of the 5320.zip and NO, the actual .zip is NOT cached in the Wayback Machine: http://web.archive.org/web/20020626092916/http://www.dwt.co.kr/computer/support/download/driver/body.asp?num=190&name=%b5%a5%bd%ba%c5%a9%c5%be+PC+/+BIOS You may also try contacting this guy here: http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30365 maybe he has it. jaclaz

Anything else? I have found through The Wayback Machine a korean site with some BIOS updates but the models (at least what I found are all "CB" or "CT") maybe you have another number somewhere or that stoopid laptop has been sold with another number/name? jaclaz

Open her up and pluck ...? http://www.thefreedictionary.com/pluck With all due respect , "Open it up and carefully remove..." does sound better , unless we are talking about Jack the Ripper jaclaz

Oww, comeon : SET Image_name= :Loop SET /P Image_name=Please Enter name of the image including the .wim extension IF NOT DEFINED Image_name GOTO :Loop IF NOT EXIST Image_name GOTO :Loop START "A_title" /WAIT imagex /apply \\server\reminst\images\windows7\%Image_name% 1 c: bcdboot.exe D:\Windows jaclaz

@JorgeA the drive has nothing to do with LBA limit, heck: would they build a drive that cannot access itself? Problem is in BIOS. Can you post the EXACT model of your laptop? Or did I miss it? You are looking for any el-cheapo USB adapter, examples: http://www.newertech.com/products/usb2_adaptv2.php They can be found for a handful of bucks nearly everywhere, google for "IDE/SATA to USB 2.0 Cable Adapter", more: http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=n82e16812156102 Real el-cheapo: http://cgi.ebay.it/USB-2-0-IDE-SATA-2-5-3-5-Adapter-Convertor-Cable-/140375878174 but you may want to buy one that includes a power supply, such as: http://cgi.ebay.it/CAVO-ADATTATORE-USB-2-0-A-IDE-SATA-2-5-3-5-CONVERTITORE-/170499858459?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Cavi_Prolunghe_Convertitori&hash=item27b295601b http://cgi.ebay.it/CAVO-ADATTATORE-USB-A-IDE-SATA-USB-TO-IDE-SATA-2-5-3-5-/250650059254?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Hard_Disk_per_PC_e_Server&hash=item3a5be861f6 jaclaz

What you posted seems OK. I am lost now as to which partitions holds what. Can you resume by filling the dots (example): Naaah, that's bull***t. Windows 9x can be installed to a Logical partition also (with some tweaks). Possible, but UNlikely, it sounds more like a configuration/install problem. This should be ANOTHER kind of problem. jaclaz

You can use START "A_title" /WAIT imagex /apply \\server\reminst\images\windows7\NAAM.wim 1 c: http://ss64.com/nt/start.html but cannot say if something needs to be "refreshed" after applying an image,, maybe you need to add an additional "delay" or "timeout" or "wait" command, such as sleep.exe or similar: http://www.911cd.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=3252&st=9 to give the OS the "time" to see that the image has been applied. jaclaz

No, but you can put it in StartNet.cmd, after the part invoking diskpart. OT, but not much , if you want to "embed" the diskpart.txt into a batch looky here: http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=126069&st=19 this way from startnet.cmd you can invoke another batch that contains BOTH the diskpart and the BCDBOOT commands. jaclaz

It seems to me pretty much pointless to actually load the PE (to be able to execute the script) to unload it in order to boot from the hard disk. What you want to do can be easily achieved by using grub4dos as the primary bootloader for the PE. Which kind of PE are we talking about: PE 1.x XP/2003 based PE 2.x Vista/Server 2008 based PE 3.x Windows 7 based VERY summed up example for PE 1.xx, menu.lst on CD: title PE if NOT file exists root (hd0,0) find /tagfile.tag || configfile (cd)/PE_menu.lst find /tagfile.tag && chainloader /ntldr PE_menu.lst title PE root (cd) chainloader /I386/SETUPLDR.BIN For PE 2.xx, last line should invoke BOOTMGR instead. jaclaz

Why all those brackets? Have in Notepad: @ECHO OFF ECHO reg add "hklm\system\currentcontrolset\control\session manager\PendingFileRenameOperations" /f reg add "hklm\system\currentcontrolset\control\session manager\PendingFileRenameOperations" /f PAUSE ECHO reg add "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\Auto Update\RebootRequired" /f reg add "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\Auto Update\RebootRequired" /f PAUSE save the file as "all files" manually giving it a .cmd extension. Double click on it. If it does what you want, you can remove the ECHO lines and the PAUSE statements allright. Please NOTE that the board software wrap arounds long lines, make sure that the lines that seem like beginning with "Auto Update" are actually the "tail of the preceding line. jaclaz

Wingrub is a VERY old thing, intended as an installer for grub4dos. You should be looking at grub4dos directly, start from the stickies: http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showforum=66 And the guide: http://diddy.boot-land.net/grub4dos/Grub4dos.htm Expecially: http://diddy.boot-land.net/grub4dos/files/install_windows.htm#windows1 http://diddy.boot-land.net/grub4dos/files/boot.htm#cd Basically you need to: add grldr to root of the HD add an entry to BOOT.INI (making it default): c:\grldr="grub4dos" add a menu.lst with an entry like: title Boot from CD root (cd) chainloader (cd) undo the changes before next boot jaclaz

Hmmm, the report from the utility seems clear enough that must be one of those "strange" BIOS. Post the info about the model and BIOS string, let's see if we can find an update. jaclaz

No, what you report makes no sense. (to me at least ) (hd0,3) CANNOT be in grub4dos an Logical Volume inside Extended, maybe during some of your experiments you somehow managed to have a Primary partition entry in (hd0,3). Please, run from grub4dos command prompt: geometry (hd0) and geometry (hd1) and post the results. jaclaz

Can't you try a Shift+F10 and running again msconfig? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/242380/en-us jaclaz

Well, you are missing the basic idea of using grub4dos command line: http://diddy.boot-land.net/grub4dos/files/basics.htm http://diddy.boot-land.net/grub4dos/files/cli.htm Boot to grub4dos, press "c" to get to command line. READ the above links, learn to use commands like geometry, and root, and [TAB] autocompletion. You have to understand that a grub4dos menu.lst is nothing but a batch file. Now you wouldn't write a batch file if not after having learned the syntax of commands and checked manually on command line that it works, wouldn't you? In grub4dos (hdn,0), (hdn,1) (hdn,2) and (hdn,3) represent the actual 4 entries available in the MBR in the order they are written in the partition table. Consequently, if one of the entries points to an Extended partition, the Logical Volume(s) in the Extended partition will be numbered (hdn,4) onwards, following the chainloading of EPBR(s) inside the extended partition. A good way to avoid the mess is to use either "tag-files" or UUID's to find which is which dynamycally (as opposed to hardcode something like (hd0,4)). i.e.: find --set-root /my4thpartion.tag hide () will hide the whatever partition that has in root a file named "my4thpartion.tag" jaclaz

The issue has nothing to do with WinSetupFromUSB or with the windows install. It is something in the early boot phase. WHAT tool did you use to partition/format the stick? With WHICH options? How big is the USB stick? How big are the partitions? Which filesystem(s) are used? Best thing would be to get HDhacker: http://dimio.altervista.org/eng/ get BOTH the MBR (first sector of \\.\PhysicalDrive) and the bootsectors of the partitions (\\:\LogicalDrive) , compress them together in a .zip and attach the .zip to your next post. jaclaz

Sure, though still I am not so sure about the cause of your problem. http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/partitions/partition_types-1.html Simply get beeblebrox or PTEDIT/PTEDIT32 and check the actual entry in the MBR. About hooking the mapping is just to avoid misunderstandings in the grub4dos menu.lst. A mapping is IMMEDIATELY effective outside grub4dos ONLY. Once hooked it is effective also internally. In other words without the hooking disk numbers in grub4dos and in (later) booted DOS may be different, with the hooking they are the same. jaclaz

Nice project but if I understand it correctly you are (through your Forum) re-distributing a pre-made .iso, which is a no-no . This "Windows 98 Live Cd Project", like a few others, which include the http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=12326 and Winimize: http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showforum=53 aim on the contrary to let people build their own Win9x starting from the files they already have. Why don't you make available INSTEAD of the prebuilt .iso the methods, manual or automated, that you used to build the .iso? jaclaz

Cannot say if related, but you should hook the mapping: And I don't see a reason to do all the hiding/unhiding, with all partition unhidden this should work allright: It is possible, though cannot say HOW it happened, that the Extended partition got an ID of 05 instead of 0F and this may affect Win9x but not Me jaclaz