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I hope you don't mind my adding to this thread. It seems to be a good one! I would like to know some links to tutorials or guides on how to remove some components using HFSLIP? For example how to remove Remote Registry from even installing, or Windows Tour. Currently I'm trying to use nLite for that purpose but it is giving me problems running it over SOURCESS and if I can I'd like to be able to do everything that nLite does from inside HFSLIP. Is there a more advanced tutorial anywhere for things like that? Same for having services preconfigured as disabled/manual etc. and for unattended settings like CD key and language prefs? Thank you!

I'm wondering if anyone else has done this? Use HFSLIP to slipstream a clean source + servicepack + hotfixes and then run nLite over the SOURCESS result? I did just that with Windows 2000 and the resulting install freezes at "Saving Settings" with the progress bar right near the start. Then I tried it again but this time UNticking Components i.e. only adding tweaks and enabling/disabling things. I used a copy of the SOURCESS each time so was not running repeatedly over an nlite'd source. This time the freeze didn't happen. Question is why does this happen? Any way to overcome it? I'd like to remove a few components such as Tour from a HFSLIPed source.

Ok I will have a look at their lists I removed that update and it didn't reboot this time so that was the culprit. I added it because it showed up in the high priority updates when I did a manual update. Just installing again now the slipstreamed CD without that update and if it shows up again in MS update I will post here, otherwise assume issue resolved!

I'm attempting to make a slipstreamed Windows 2000 Pro CD now. This is how I went about it. First I installed from a clean Win2k CD (no service packs) and applied SP4. Then I installed the IE6 SP1 redist. Then manually went to Windows Update and Custom updates and downloaded each update manually one by one. So with a bunch of downloaded high priority updates plus some extra bits from tomcat's list I went and put everything in the relevent folders and ran HFSLIP. It made SOURCESS without any reported problems, apart from KB870669 complaining about switches (so I moved that one to SVCPACK_SW2) Now when I mounted the iso in Virtual PC it all goes fine until the Saving Settings part where it rebooted for some reason. I'm suspecting that KB870669 but just in case please can someone look over this log and see if anything is in the wrong place or what could be wrong? I would also appreciate very much if anyone spots updates I don't need or if I'm missing anything important from the list! I added: SP4, IE6SP1, Directx 9.0c November redist, Media Player 9, plus some extra bits like codec pack Thanks! This file is automatically generated by HFSLIP HFSLIP is for personal use only Copyright(C) TommyP 2005-2007 ============================HOW TO REPORT A PROBLEM============================ If running into problems, refer to http://hfslip.org/support.html HFSLIP support forum: http://msfn.org/board/index.php?showforum=129 =============================================================================== HFSLIP Version - 1.7.0 build 71114 HFSLIP Path - D:\HFSLIP\ OS in SOURCESS - 2000 SP4 English MSIE Version - 2KIE6 DirectX Slipstreamed Drivers - DRIVER.CAB Updated CD Install Path - Default CDTAG - CDROM_NT.5 =============================================================================== Files in your FIX folder: Files in your HF folder: directx_nov2007_redist.exe gdiplus_dnld.exe IE6.0sp1-KB905495-Windows2000-x86-ENU.exe IE6.0sp1-KB938127-Windows2000-x86-ENU.exe IE6.0sp1-KB939653-Windows2000-x86-ENU.exe MDAC253-KB927779-x86-ENU.exe MPSetup.exe OE6.0sp1-KB941202-Windows2000-x86-ENU.exe rootsupd_fe44934fd80dd11fec2f0f9b24431658a4f6d589.exe W2KSP4_EN.EXE Windows2000-KB842773-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB891861-v2-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB893756-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB896358-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB896422-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB896423-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB899587-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB899589-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB900725-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB901017-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB901214-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB904706-DX9-x86-ENU.exe Windows2000-KB905414-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB905749-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB908519-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB908531-v2-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB911280-v2-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB913580-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB914388-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB914389-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB917008-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB917344-56-x86-enu.Exe Windows2000-KB917953-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB918118-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB920213-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB920670-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB920683-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB920685-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB921398-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB921503-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB922582-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB923191-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB923414-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB923689-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB923810-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB923980-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB924270-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB924667-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB925902-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB926121-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB926122-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB926436-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB927891-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB928843-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB930178-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB931784-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB933729-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB935839-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB935840-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB936021-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB938827-x86-ENU.EXE Windows2000-KB938829-x86-ENU.EXE WindowsInstaller-KB893803-v2-x86.exe Windows-KB890830-V1.35.exe WindowsMedia9-KB936782-x86-ENU.exe WindowsMedia-KB911564-x86-ENU.exe WindowsUpdateAgent30-x86.exe wmfdist.exe Files in your HFCABS folder: _IE6_HFSLIP.CAB _IE6b_HFSLIP.CAB _OE6_HFSLIP.CAB BRANDING.CAB IEW2K_1.CAB IEW2K_2.CAB IEW2K_3.CAB IEW2K_4.CAB LegitCheckControl.cab MAILNEWS.CAB MUAuth.cab MuCatalogWebControl.cab MUWEB_SITE.CAB OEEXCEP.CAB SCRIPTEN.CAB swflash.cab WAB.CAB Files in your HFSVCPACK folder: Files in your HFSVCPACK_SW1 folder: UPHClean-Setup.msi Files in your HFSVCPACK_SW2 folder: Windows-KB870669-x86-ENU.exe Files in your HFGUIRUNONCE folder: Files in your HFTOOLS folder: 7za.exe cmdow.exe HFSLIP_POST_getnewfiles_v3.cmd reg.exe =============================================================================== HFSLIP run time: 21m58s

It was down last night GMT and is still down at the time of this post.

Cool thank you! I'll look into that some more. I don't mind extracting the msi but was wary about doing anything more than that i.e. reconstructing an installer.

I found this useful utility and thought it might be nice to share it Desktop Restore - Download .msi Command Line version Desktop Icon Save and Restore Platform Windows 2000, XP (VISTA? You tell me...) File Size 188K bytes License Freeware Author Jamie O'Connell Description Save and restore the layout of the Windows desktop icons. I found it while looking to find out how to save a custom layout for a slipstreamed CD. You can save the settings and then add to registry later. If anyone knows actual XP registry settings (or other file settings?) where XP stores icon location info I'd appreciate it!

Does someone know the registry keys for "Expand..." for the Classic Start Menu customization? For example Expand Printers, Expand Network Connections, Expand My Documents etc? Thanks!

I was wondering if there is some way to automate (unattended) installing of Installshield/WISE setups which ask for a password or serial during the actual install? For example Acronis TrueImage or OODefrag if I remember right ask for a key at the installer stage. Can I send the pass key via an argument somehow? Or some kind of answer file? I'd like to do this, preferably without having to reconstruct the install package and preferably without using a third party macro program (the type which auto fill pages) i.e. just using the installer. Any ideas? Thanks!

Ok thanks! I was wondering because the bluescreen part said it had dumped file too so I was worried savedump was overwriting the file created by that. I didn't know the bluescreen bit was actually writing to the pagefile! Now it's just a waiting game to see when it all locks up again. Funnily enough it hasn't yet done so since I posted that query

Ok I added the registry setting (and installed the debugger beforehand). Then just did a quick test of ctrl-scroll lock. It blue screened and generated the (2gb) dump file. After that I rebooted. Couple questions Should savedump.exe (dumpsave.exe i forget exactly) run after I reboot? I heard my hard drive grinding away and noticed that was running in task manager after reboot. Since it was just a test run I killed it off which stopped the hard drive activity. Assuming I get a dump file after an actual lockup what should I do with it? Load it up into the debugger? What should I be looking for in there. Some steps would be helpful Thank you!

Ok I have the 9 minute "Saving Settings" problem again. Here's what I did Source files from clean XP Pro SP2 CD. Downloaded various hotfixes as listed in the_guy's list (minus some media player ones but it happened with those in before anyway). One addon I created which is for a silent switchless WMP10 install. Attached is my settings file. I removed a couple of things (not too many) and applied some tweaks. All done with nLite, fresh install. For the Unattended part I filled in the CD Key and put "WORKGROUP" for the workgroup (minus quotes) and selected UK keyboard/manual UK regional settings. GMT/london time zone. Nothing else was changed. Can someone look into this please? LAST_SESSION.INI

I don't know where the OP source got their info from but a useful info place is Virus Bulletin - you can check their results monthly and see how companies have scored in their history. I use NOD32 personally. ESET has consistently scored 100% detection of VBN tests for a long time now.

I recently updated various drivers and programs in my system and am now encountering this annoying problem where XP TOTALLY freezes seemingly at random. Sometimes it works for a very long time then just locks up. This morning it froze rather quickly. Then the only way out of it is to hit the reset button. I am suspicious of the ATI Catalyst driver because it is the only thing that logs any error. Some kind of CRT related error which according to AMD/ATI is supposedly harmless and only happens at boot time (or when screen resolution changes) but this makes me wonder if maybe something else is broken further along. But I can't confirm that for sure. So is there some way to log absolutely everything that is going on inside WinXP? So then I can get some idea why it is locking up and what could be the problem? Like I said it is doing this at apparently random times. I have thoroughly checked using antivirus NOD32. My firewall has not logged anything out of the ordinary. I checked with Spybot and also ran Spyware Blaster. All with latest updates. They can't find anything suspicious. I checked HijackThis log and that seems to be normal as well. I have also all updates from microsoft. Using service pack 2. This is NOT a slipstreamed install, just normal regular install from my original CD. It is not overheating problem (temperatures are normal) Event log is not showing any errors before or after the freeze. I ran chkdsk /f already too. Help!

I've been investigating applications which are capable of slipstreaming Windows + apps/hotfixes. These are the ones I've found/know about HFSLIP nLite Setup Studio (commercial, trial version available) Are there any others people know of? Thanks! By Slipstreaming I mean ones which aren't essentially souped up macro programs which install stuff at first login and then autocomplete installation pages...

I have encountered this problem too. I'm going to try to recreate it and update this post if it happens again (I'll add my config file) just testing a HFSLIP+nLite install at the moment... UPDATE: well this is what I did. Fresh copy of my XP Pro SP2 CD as the source. Selected nothing in nLite except some unattended settings (CD key, language, no IIS) and this worked fine and did not freeze. Not sure what could be the problem, I'll look some more later.

Ok now I understand! I was getting confused because primarily of Windows Media Player. I made a switchless silent installer for WMP10 but was unsure at what point it would install and if the WMP10 hotfixes would be applied correctly i.e. would WMP10 installer overwrite any of the patches.

I'm wondering if it's possible to control in what order some things are installed? For example if I have a switchless silent installer, I want that installed before the hotfixes HF folder items? Possible? How? What about between the other folders too, for example the HFSVCPACK (and ones with _x endings) can someone shed some light on this? Thanks

I am not sure about local copies but if it comes down to it you could try Tomcat's list here :- http://users.telenet.be/tc76/winup/_winxpsp2.html That has very helpful direct links to the individual patch downloads. Download each one individually. Then you just write a batch file to execute each one and that should do it! Another step could be to package up the batch file + updates into a single self extracting 7zip/rar and have that execute the batch file. That way you only need to copy the one file around and run it per machine. You can make a batch file very easily by using "Dir /b /on > mybatchfile.bat" that will list all the files in the current folder in alphabetical order into mybatchfile.bat Just edit it to remove reference to itself or it will loop forever lol!

I'd just like to check. This doesn't make it an unattended install does it? It still prompts for the Accept and where to extract to? I think I had this problem so I repackaged it to become a switchless installer but if I did something wrong let me know

Ok so I manually created a bootable ISO using my HFSLIP source and the problem is there, so it seems to be something to do with that. Help please? Can a mod move this thread into the HFSLIP forum please? Thanks! UPDATE: I started all over again with a clean copy of my source CD and now it is working. It might have been something corrupted! But so long as it works I'm happy

Well using only my original CD as the source it is installing fine now and got past the stuck point from before. Next I will try a HFSLIP only install and if that is a problem I'll post in that forum

Thank you very much. I thought about making an image but I don't know how to do so before Windows boots up initially (and then starts putting in drivers etc. for the current machine) - wouldn't an image be specific to that computer? I'd be interested in a generic image which could be used to install on different hardware and then configures itself... any particular software required? Preferably cheap or freeware!

Thanks Arie! I have done all the steps, figured out how to make own installer also Only reason I've used nLite is for the tweaking and removal of stuff like Windows Tour and services like Remote Registry which I never enable anyway. Unfortunately I don't know enough about Windows to know what nLite does to actually remove these things. Some are most likely registry tweaks which could be looked up on google I suppose but, for example, I don't know which files are related to what and if they should be removed or kept in relation to an item I would like removed. I hope that explains it

I haven't making an ISO using the HFSLIP install source. I will try that next! I was under the impression that using HFSLIP you can get a smaller footprint because it merges a few things first. I use nLite for the tweaks and removal of Windows Tour for example. Is there really no difference in how they build a source? Right now I am trying something else. I have taken the contents of my XP Pro SP2 CD and am using that only as the source i.e. no updates or addons, not made using HFSLIP; but using the same settings as I did before. I'll report if that has a problem too.