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is there a link to a download without yahoo and without flash...Ive got flash integrated into windows and dont really need an installer for that...I also dont want the stupid yahoo toolbar...can someone direct me to the right place?

hmmm, dunno if its different cuz your not using english maybe...mine never complains about wmp10.cat being in the file...I also get a start menu button...I am unsure as to whether the icon gets created in "Programs" but I do have it on the MRU list...SimonSays...about wmp10.cat, Im gonna assume you used your own wmp10.inf and not the one I provided in the attachment...if so, you need to remove some lines from the beginning of the wmp10.inf file...I never said that wmp10 would not behave as wmp9 did...so yes, first run is displayed like always...(I dont remember saying I was gonna give ANYONE any regtweaks for wmp10...the reason I decided on this is my tweaks may not be your tweaks)... I am not sure if SimonSays is using my attachment or not...but I cannot stress enough that YOU MUST USE MY ATTACHMENT AS WMP10.IN_...If you do not, you will run into more problems than its worth...now, if you want to extract my wmp10.in_ and convert what I have done into YOUR language, by all means, do so...but DO NOT simply copy wmp10.inf from mp10setup.exe and think its gonna work, because it wont. About space saved...if you have nlited at all before doing this, your space saved results will vary...I believe I said that you should not nlite before this...but dunno...my space results are based on a true xpsp2 source and ONLY removing wmp9 and codecs and adding ONLY wmp10.cab and mp10setup.exe (7zipped to reduce size of file)...so using that formula, you will arrive at my totals. I used the same idea for including the other methods...so it isnt like I unfairly reported results. Although I do not know if wmp10 can be makecabbed smaller than wmp9 currently on the cd...as I said, using nlite removes 16mb, so if makecabbing all of wmp10 yields a smaller size, then that would be the only difference in my totals...I could try real quick and post back my size reults in compressing wmp10, to give people I guess a true representation...even though in the end, I can almost guarantee my method will still have the least amount of size. (also, i do not take into account the inf and unregmp2 files because it doesnt really add anything that would offset my totals)

sorry for 2 replies in a row...but I need some help... This is for people who use RyanVM's Update Pack and this method of integrating wmp10... When following this guide perfectly and also installing RyanVM's Update Pack, do all hotfixes install...Im trying to figure out what breaks the Update Pack install...I removed more than just wmp with nlite, but I want to make sure this isnt causing the problem...here is my scenario Using this method and RyanVM's Pack (Full for English) Highmat says it is needed via Windows Update...if I regsvr32 hmtcd.dll it is no longer a needed update...I am trying to find out if this HOWTO is causing it not to regsvr the file during optional component setup or not...So anyone who uses the Full Pack for English and this method, please post back if Highmat says its needed in Windows Update...it would really help me out in determining where I need to start to fix the problem...I do not believe my method causes the problem, but something else I removed, Im just checking with people...so either pm or reply with results, it will be greatly appreciated.

as I said, you are missing some information in svcpack.inf...this is what mine looks like [Version] Signature="$Windows NT$" MajorVersion=5 MinorVersion=1 BuildNumber=2600 [SetupData] CatalogSubDir="\i386\UPDATE" [ProductCatalogsToInstall] KB832414.cat KB834707.cat KB884020.cat KB885523.cat KB885626.cat KB885894.cat scripten.cat [SetupHotfixesToRun] dotnetfw.exe msjvm.exe mp10setup.exe "unregmp2.exe /Shortcuts /RegExts" wmcsetup.exe notice the difference under [Version]...this is the only way Ive gotten svcpack.inf to work. Whowhooo! another person who says it works

1. wmp10.cat is inside mp10setup.exe 2. I personally leave svcpack.inf uncompressed...just easier to edit 3. I would recommend to edit svcpack.inf AFTER nlite...I think thats the way its listed in the HOWTO and lastly, it looksok...you may wanna make sure your svcpack.inf works...because I have a lot more info in mine than you do...so I would check to make sure it works first.

1st post updated comparing sizes of different methods

Nilfred...it doesnt matter what the difference between UTF-8 and ASCII is 7zip help file says the txt file MUST be encoded as UTF-8...using the batch file in the way it is written will not encode config.txt as UTF-8...this is why the batch file does not work...this is why people cannot get wmcsetup7 or mp10setup7 to install...I just redid the entire thing and instead of using your batch file, I took the commands out, and made sure config.txt was encoded as UTF-8 and it worked perfectly...what you might want to do, since it seems you want to use a batch file is to include a vbs script that opens config.txt and goes to "save as..." then selects UTF-8 as the encoding, then save and exit vbs script...then continue with rest of batch commands... For everyone else wanting to use Nilfreds method...edit the batch file and go step by step (note that when it says CALL :something, you need to go find :something, at the end of that, where it says EOF, it means to go back to where the CALL started and continue) and when you make the config.txt file, open it in notepad, and save as UTF-8...another thing you could do is to edit the batch like so A note...make sure there is a space between ECHO and ; and that there is no space between the ; and ! SET TmpDir=%~dp0tmp SET BuildDir=%~dp0build\ %~d0 CD "%~p0" MD "%BuildDir%" COPY StartX.exe "%BuildDir%StartX.exe" SET Target=wmcsetup CALL :make_tmp SET MsiName= FOR %%I in (*.*) DO IF /I "%%~xI" == ".MSI" SET MsiName=%%I START /wait msiexec /a "%MsiName%" TARGETDIR="%BuildDir%" /QB CD.. RMDIR /S /Q tmp CD "%BuildDir%" SET RedistFile= FOR /R %%I in (wmfdist??.exe) DO SET RedistFile=%%I CD.. MOVE "%RedistFile%" . SET Target=wmfdist95 CALL :make_tmp CALL :make_7z RMDIR /S /Q tmp ECHO;!@Install@!UTF-8!>config.txt ECHO RunProgram="wmsetsdk.exe /DisallowSystemRestore /WMFDIST /Quiet /R:N">>config.txt ECHO;!@InstallEnd@!>>config.txt ECHO Open config.txt and save as using UTF-8 as the Encoding ECHO When finished, press any key pause CALL :make_exe MOVE %Target%7.exe "%RedistFile%" DEL %Target%.exe SET Target=wmcsetup CD "%BuildDir%" CALL :make_7z RMDIR /S /Q "%BuildDir%" ECHO;!@Install@!UTF-8!>config.txt ECHO RunProgram="StartX.exe /WAIT \"msiexec /i %MsiName% /qb\"">>config.txt ECHO;!@InstallEnd@!>>config.txt ECHO Open config.txt and save as using UTF-8 as the Encoding ECHO When finished, press any key pause CALL :make_exe GOTO:EOF :make_tmp MD "%TmpDir%" START /wait %Target%.exe /Q:A /C /T:"%TmpDir%" CD "%TmpDir%" GOTO:EOF :make_7z ..\7za.exe a "%~dp0%Target%.7z" -r -mx=7 -mfb=255 -md=48m * CD.. GOTO:EOF :make_exe IF NOT EXIST 7zSC.sfx upx.exe 7zS.sfx -o7zSC.sfx COPY /b 7zSC.sfx + config.txt + %Target%.7z %Target%7.exe DEL config.txt DEL %Target%.7z GOTO:EOF

hmmm, I just said it saves 7mb...thats with the 5mb wmp10.cab included...when I removed wmp9, it said I saved 19mb...this was because it removed my 5mb wmp10.cab...so we take 19 and subtract 5, which gives us 14mb (this is what would have been removed had it not removed wmp10.cab)...now we subtract 5mb for wmp10.cab which gives us a total savings of 9mb...even more than what I said...this also does not include removing wmp9 codecs (which can be removed since the codecs are included in mp10setup.exe)...I could try and nlite from a true source and find out how much is removed by only removing wmp9 and codecs and tell you how much it is...i may do that in a minute or 2... EDIT just nlited with removing only wmp and wmp codecs...saved 16mb, so with the 5mb cab file added in, thats a total saving of 11mb over what we have so far...this does not get rid of mp10setup.exe in svcpack dir...which is why more space isnt removed...I havent had a chance to try integrating mce2k5 wmp10 into source yet, but will try soon, and that should save a total of 9mb...as you can see, you actually save more using my method...my mp10setup.exe file is 9mb (7zipped), and since using the mce files would replace said wmp9 files, it can be assumed that it will take the same amount of space, so this means the only file we can remove is mp10setup from svcpack.inf (this takes into account that we no longer use wmp10.cab and therefore the size of 16mb saved would be replaced by the wmp10 files)...so if you look at it that way...my way saves the MOST amount of space.

@Nilfred...do you wanna know one possible reason why youre method doesnt work? Its because in the batch file you can not tell config.txt to be encoded as UTF-8. just echoing that info in there does not make it UTF-8...in fact, the only reason that line is in there is so 7zip knows that is what the txt file is coded as...if you can figure out how to use a batch command and make the config.txt be encoded as UTF-8 that will solve all your problems...I am going to test with wmp10setup and post back my results, but I can almost guarantee this is what is happening and why it isnt installing for anyone.

isnt hibernation turned off in winnt.sif? [unattended] Hibernation = No

its still gonna install wisptis which when using adobe, never closes after exiting adobe...I would have included journal viewer on my unattended if not for that...and deleting the reg keys IS NOT a good method for getting wisptis to not load with adobe because it breaks journal viewer...then whats the point of installing journal viewer at all...if you dont care about wisptis being loaded with adobe (and never closing) then more power to you.

an sfx 7zip archive can not call msiexec directly...the reason is whatever command you use in config.txt must be in the archive, its one of the downfalls of 7zip sfx archive...thats the whole reason for startx is 7zip thinks it is executing startx (which is in the archive) and startx executes something outside of the archive (msiexec in most cases)...but youre more than welcome to try calling msiexec directly (even though the help file with 7zip says it cant be done unless msiexec is in the archive)...the reason it is not a good idea to put msiexec into an archive is because its different for different windows...windows sp2 msiexec cant run on xpsp1...and vice versa. @edmoncu...ive installed wmp10 (not run) and installed wmc right after and it works fine...you might wanna try GM's method and note what happens with that one in svcpack.inf

honestly, I dunno if it saves any space...but it does get rid of wmp9 and installs wmp10...if you remove wmp9 and try to install wmp10 from svcpack.inf you will get an error and it wont install. Using that thinking, it does save some space...removing wmp9 saved around 12mb from cd, and adding the wmp10.cab only added 5mb, so thats a savings of 7mb (I know not a lot)...but thats what it saves.

lol, there werent any real corrections...just some thing.... DISABLE "COMPATIBILITY" TAB IN EXECUTABLES PROPERTIES [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{513D916F-2A8E-4F51-AEAB-0CBC76FB1AF8}] DISABLE "OFFLINE FILES" TAB IN "FOLDER OPTIONS" [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{10CFC467-4392-11d2-8DB4-00C04FA31A66}] DISABLE "QUOTA" TAB IN HARD DISKS PROPERTIES [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{7988B573-EC89-11cf-9C00-00AA00A14F56}] DISABLE "SHARING" TAB IN FOLDERS PROPERTIES and "SHARING AND SECURITY" in rightclick menu [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{f81e9010-6ea4-11ce-a7ff-00aa003ca9f6}] havent tested the other diskquota clsid...but it is clsid {7988B571-EC89-11cf-9C00-00AA00A14F56}

DISABLE "SHARING" TAB IN FOLDERS PROPERTIES and REMOVE "SHARING AND SECURITY" IN RIGHT-CLICK MENU reg keys actually do the same thing...HKLM\Software\Classes\CLSID is the same as HKCR\CLSID Also, I dont have this CLSID on my pc with WMP10...I believe that if you use my howto to integrate wmp10, you dont have this key...REMOVE "OPEN AS A PORTABLE DEVICE" WHEN RIGHT-CLICKING FLOPPY (WITH MEDIA PLAYER 10 INSTALLED) Other than that, good finds...it should be noted that you could actually remove the entire key and itd still do the same thing...(just remove inprocserver32 and add a - in front of HKEY - tested removing the entire key and it worked)... Another thing...there is actually 2 disk quota clsid's...the first one is right above the clsid for DISABLE "QUOTA" TAB IN HARD DISKS PROPERTIES

that originally said to change the topic title...I just removed the post because a mod changed the title...the first post is still relevant, I think.

im glad it worked out for one person . I tried to do most of the troubleshooting and make a complete howto without any "user error" problems...if this method does not work for you, I honestly would have no idea why it doesnt...I have a nlited cd that I took out more than just wmp and it still works (though im now having a problem with something else...not sure if it is related)...I also use Pyrons method for drivers with Bashrats drivers and serialzs presetup.cmd...Im only saying this to show that almost no matter what youve done with your cd, this method should work. about layout.inf...im not 100% sure what depends on what but I believe txtsetup.sif tells windows what to install and it look at layout.inf to determine what to do with the file (in the sense as to whether the file is extracted or compressed)...but dont quote me on that...I believe if the file is not in txtsetup.sif, then setup wont query layout.inf...I know nlite does not remove entries from layout.inf...but I also believe that there is some security check on the file or something as to why noone has been able to edit it yet.

what do you mean could not open wmp10.inf? first post updated...wmp10.cab goes in i386 folder along with wmp10.in_

not that I know of...*shrugs*

ok, i tested both nilfreds mp10setup7 and wmc7...windows media player looked installed but didnt start, windows update said wmc needed to be applied...switched to mp10setup and wmc7...wmp worked but windows update said wmc still needs to be applied...switched to mp10setup and wmc (GM's) and wmp10 worked and windows update said I did not need wmc....so you tell me where the problem is...as you can tell, I have tested your method and it doesnt work...neither does your mp10setup...and I use a couple of 7zip compressed exe's...dotnet is 1.

new release date is Oct 28...they found a bug and wanted to fix it, so they pushed back the date.

im not sure deltree will delete an in use file...the reason i say this is if you do rd /? from command prompt it tells you that rd /s is the same thing as deltree...he is gonna have to find what exe it is running and end task it.

Nilfreds didnt work here either.

i think ive got them somewhere...just noone really said if it worked or not. BTW, good to see youre back

well, since youre installing mp10setup.exe in svcpack.inf, its signed. and I thought someone tried converting mce2005 to xp and it didnt work