Well I can only tell that my current installation is without wmi, (though removed with nlite, not HFSLIP) and I haven't seen any need of it for a very-very long time. I used nlite because for some reason hfcleanup left in many compontents i asked for removing. One of them was wmi. Unfortunatly I can't give the exact setting, but since I'm still affraid of using hfcleanup, I'll try to do so: I was using fdv fileset on a win2000 sp4 installer with all the hotfixes + dx9, but nothing else. I was using full full hfcleanup.zip fileset without the extra stuff in the "2000-only.zip". One of the first unusual things was the rather big SOURCESS folder. With the above mentioned setup I was only able to reduce the source to around 200 mb, which is in my oppinion is interestingly big, considering that if I run nlite on a source with hfslipped hotfixes+dx9, removing everything, making a barebone-minimalistic-totaly-slimmed-down-nothing-left-in installer, it will be around 60(!) Mgs (hehe... quite radical, eh? many times I only just leave dhcpclient, eventlog, activedirectory, codecs, and opengl in... it's works well on xp, though I experienced some odd things with 2k. By the way, currently I'm writing under such a 2k system, and working well since summer without mayor problems, though there are those stragie thingies ) When I installed the above mentioned 2000, (the hfslipped, which is around 200mg sources, NOT the nlited one) I experienced that many components was left in. One of them was for example wmi. Do you have any clues why did that happenned? Unfortunately, I think I'm not able to recall more datails