deadbug Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 @JetThe new version of UBCD is out in beta form and contains things like Docmem and most other apps I've been struggling with.I haven't taken a look at the guts yet to see how Victor has worked around these issues but it's looking rather good. Suppose it takes the experts to work these things out.You can pick up a copy of the beta here..Later.I've been thinking about switching over from CDshell to SYSLINUX, mostly because SYSLINUX looks like it has a powerful extensible menu system.If you've already converted from CDshell to SYSLINUX, could you post a quick guide? I cannot see too much in the way of documentation for SYSLINUX. I expect it's not too hard to figure out, but some pointers could save a lot of time. I have the usual Multiboot DVD that can install various XP variants, invoke the UBCD, boot floppy images, boot SLAX.Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetman Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 @JetThe new version of UBCD is out in beta form and contains things like Docmem and most other apps I've been struggling with.I haven't taken a look at the guts yet to see how Victor has worked around these issues but it's looking rather good. Suppose it takes the experts to work these things out.You can pick up a copy of the beta here..Later.I've been thinking about switching over from CDshell to SYSLINUX, mostly because SYSLINUX looks like it has a powerful extensible menu system.If you've already converted from CDshell to SYSLINUX, could you post a quick guide? I cannot see too much in the way of documentation for SYSLINUX. I expect it's not too hard to figure out, but some pointers could save a lot of time. I have the usual Multiboot DVD that can install various XP variants, invoke the UBCD, boot floppy images, boot SLAX.ThanksIt's ISOLINUX, not SYSLINUX. SYSLINUX is the name of the entire kit, a series of loaders for floppy/hdrives (SYSLINUX), CD/DVDs (ISOLINUX), Linux storage (EXTLINUX), and PXE/Network bootstrapping (PXELINUX). The documentation is pretty good, at least w/ latest (3.35+) kits. SYSLINUX.DOC is documentation for the entire config file structure (that was always okay), along w/ README.menu which explains the cooler menu capabilities, specifically VESAMENU, which does 640x480 PNG splash screens !This is a sample, working ISOLINUX menu I used to use for my multi-boot DVD. Does Slax, BartPE, and Knoppix, among other things. Was created prior to discovering the ease w/ which one could use the VESAMENU option.Where the SYSLINUX loaders differ from CDSHELL, is that CDSHELL revolves around a scripting language. Very flexible, but a longer learning curve, given the mission (setting up a menu w/ a handful of options.) SYSLINUX config files are a series of stanzas, each stanza describes a single boot config corresponding to a menu option, so you can get something usable going more quickly.I think the only thing that's unclear about my ISOLINUX sample is the DISPLAY stmt. The file displayed w/ that stmt is a combination of a cmd to display a .LSS splash screen and the actual text of menu cmds to be used by the user. So it would look something like:^Ysplash.lssCommands: bartpe, slax, server, knoppixPress [F2] or [F3] for help w/ optionsThat's from memory, but pretty accurate. If you have either DSL, Knoppix, or Slax 5, the config files from any of these (particularly DSL or Knoppix, which are the examples I used) will fill-in any remaining blanks....Jet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kof94 Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Hay Jet, I think I'm gonna start calling you Yoda .This topic i.e. using Isolinux instead of CDShell is becoming quite popular. Another convertee here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetman Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 Hay Jet, I think I'm gonna start calling you Yoda .This topic i.e. using Isolinux instead of CDShell is becoming quite popular. Another convertee here.Call me, Yoda, you may. My real name, it is.... Seriously, it ain't me. SYSLINUX is a product of the Linux world/culture and many of the inhabitants of MSFN are simply biased in favor of that which is more familiar, CDSHELL. As I understand it, BCDW development stopped a long time ago, yet others still use it successfully and continue to recommend it. No biggie. B) Finally, CDSHELL is still a fine program, it simply didn't suit me....Jet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 @jetmanAs you can see here, I started (/tried to start) a MultiBoot with syslinus.But PM8 doesn't work. I just saw in your samlpe####LABEL pmagicKERNEL memdiskAPPEND initrd=/FLPYS/PQPM8.IMADid you change anything in the Image? Maybe you could reply in the other thread.btw: If you are a syslinux-Yoda, you could creat a little Basic-HowTo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kof94 Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 btw: If you are a syslinux-Yoda, you could creat a little Basic-HowTo. angel.gifThe reason I called Jet Yoda is because way back when this topic started he convinced me to switch from CDShell to Isolinux and now it seams everyones doing the samething.Just a bit of banter really!However, you do have a point, a future isolinux guide would probably be quite useful. Saying that though, if you can use the CDShell system it's pretty easy to switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeveL Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 (edited) AAAAAAAAAGH!OK now thats over with, heres the problem:I want to multi-boot Slax (the live one from HERE along with DSL from HERE)I am using cdshell.ini to chain these.The problem is, whatever I do it is always booting into DSL!The Slax CD comes with 2 folders "boot" and "slax".I put the Slax folder on the root of my multi-boot CD.(Knoppix is already there for DSL)Now, to boot DSL, I did not have to modify anything, it just worked with the command in cdshell.ini saying this:if $lastKey == key[1]; then bcdw Boot isolinux\isolinux.binSo, I made a sub-directory INSIDE the multi-boot CD's BOOT folder called "slax" and inside that slax folder, I put all the slax boot files.So, this slax comes with its own "isolinux.cfg" file in its own isolinux folder.I have altered all the options in this "isolinux.cfg" file, where it used to say for example "KERNEL /boot/vmlinuz"it now says "KERNEL /boot/slax/vmlinuz" because what used to be the "boot" folder for the Slax CD is now "BOOT/slax" on the multi-boot CD.So my isolinux.cfg file (now inside "boot/slax") is like so:PROMPT 0TIMEOUT 200DEFAULT /boot/slax/vesamenu.c32LABEL xconfMENU LABEL Slax Graphics mode (KDE)KERNEL /boot/slax/vmlinuzAPPEND vga=769 initrd=/boot/slax/initrd.gz ramdisk_size=6666 root=/dev/ram0 rw autoexec=xconf;kdmLABEL pchangesMENU LABEL Slax Graphics mode with Persistent ChangesKERNEL /boot/slax/vmlinuzAPPEND vga=769 initrd=/boot/slax/initrd.gz ramdisk_size=6666 root=/dev/ram0 rw changes=/slax/slaxsave.dat autoexec=xconf;kdmLABEL copy2ramMENU LABEL Slax Graphics mode, Copy To RAMKERNEL /boot/slax/vmlinuzAPPEND vga=769 initrd=/boot/slax/initrd.gz ramdisk_size=6666 root=/dev/ram0 rw copy2ram autoexec=xconf;kdmLABEL startxMENU LABEL Slax Graphics VESA mode (1024x768)KERNEL /boot/slax/vmlinuzAPPEND vga=769 initrd=/boot/slax/initrd.gz ramdisk_size=6666 root=/dev/ram0 rw autoexec=kdmLABEL slaxMENU LABEL Slax Text modeKERNEL /boot/slax/vmlinuzAPPEND vga=normal initrd=/boot/slax/initrd.gz ramdisk_size=6666 root=/dev/ram0 rwLABEL memtest86MENU LABEL Run Memtest utilityKERNEL /boot/slax/mt86pAll I have changed is where it used to say /boot it now says /boot/slaxProblem is - even though I am linking cdshell.ini directly to the isolinux.bin file inside "boot/slax" like this:if $lastKey == key[2]; then bcdw Boot slax\isolinux\isolinux.binIt is STILL booting DSL!How the hell can it possibly?! The isolinux.cfg file I have put above there in code tags IS next to the isolinux.bin file I am linking to in cdshell.ini - how can it still boot DSL?Help, please, I have tried this so many ways now and nothing works! Edited August 21, 2007 by LeveL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caccauk Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 if yes, where must i put the ubuntu folder? AOIDVD\Ubuntu ?This is something no-one has figured out yet.You can use this...if $lastKey == key[f8]; then isolinux /casper/vmlinuz file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper initrd=/casper/initrd.gz ramdisk_size=1048576 root=/dev/ram rw quiet splash --...only if you copy the ubuntu .iso contents to the root of you disc.You only need these folders (for Edgy Eft anyway).[casper][dists][pool][preseed]-kof94It works with 7.04 but when i try this method with 7.10 my linux start in console mode not live....please help me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kof94 Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 I don't use Ubuntu any more but I forgot to mention you also need the '.disk' (hidden in linux) directory on your disk as well.This might be a silly question but you do have the livecd version and not the console based alternative cd don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caccauk Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 I don't use Ubuntu any more but I forgot to mention you also need the '.disk' (hidden in linux) directory on your disk as well.This might be a silly question but you do have the livecd version and not the console based alternative cd don't you?Yes, i have the livecd version.....i try to copy the .disk folder!thanks a lot for your answer!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caccauk Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 I don't use Ubuntu any more but I forgot to mention you also need the '.disk' (hidden in linux) directory on your disk as well.This might be a silly question but you do have the livecd version and not the console based alternative cd don't you?Yes, i have the livecd version.....i try to copy the .disk folder!thanks a lot for your answer!! Thanks kof94, i copy the .disk folder and now i have a MultiBoot DVD with Kubuntu 7.10! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kof94 Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 No problem B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caccauk Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 Another question, i need to integrate the recovery cd of my licensed Paragon Drive BackupThe directory 'par' contains those filesdos (directory)bm.binbm_hidebm_mbrbm_statboot.catalogcd.cfgcd_plg.bmpcd_plg.cfgcd_plg.exedos.engdos.frndos.gerdos.imgdos.itldos.jpndos.plsdos.rusdos.spninitrd.gzlilo.englilo.frnlilo.gerlilo.itllilo.japlilo.ruslilo.spnmemdiskvmlinuzpi try withif $lastKey == key[f8]; then isolinux /par/vmlinuzp boot=par initrd=/par/initrd.gzbut it doesn't workAny suggestion, please?ThanksCCUK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caccauk Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Another question, i need to integrate the recovery cd of my licensed Paragon Drive BackupThe directory 'par' contains those filesdos (directory)bm.binbm_hidebm_mbrbm_statboot.catalogcd.cfgcd_plg.bmpcd_plg.cfgcd_plg.exedos.engdos.frndos.gerdos.imgdos.itldos.jpndos.plsdos.rusdos.spninitrd.gzlilo.englilo.frnlilo.gerlilo.itllilo.japlilo.ruslilo.spnmemdiskvmlinuzpi try withif $lastKey == key[f8]; then isolinux /par/vmlinuzp boot=par initrd=/par/initrd.gzbut it doesn't workAny suggestion, please?ThanksCCUKProblem solved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caccauk Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 KOF, i need your help: is it possible to put different disto of ubuntu (Ubu, Kubu, Edubu, ecc ecc) on the same dvd?Thanls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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