Browncoat Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) found my own answer........the bastards did stop support at 2.0.0and here I was counting on open source to keep 2000 alive! http://wiki.videolan.org/VSG:Usage:VersionIts good that I know how to use SUPER so I can keep converting the mkv files I likeinto 720p .avi files that can play on my system. http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.htmlBIG FAT EDIT: It is working now. Edited April 12, 2012 by Browncoat
tomasz86 Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) You mean in Windows 2000, right?I can run it here with no problems.There are different players based on MPlayer, such as PotPlayer, the KMPlayer, SMPLayer, etc. All of them work fine in Win2k. Edited March 26, 2012 by tomasz86
Browncoat Posted March 26, 2012 Author Posted March 26, 2012 You mean in Windows 2000, right?That's what I said.I can run it here with no problems. How? and no, I still don't understand how to use BWC's or WB's kernel (yet) despite this chart?http://wiki.videolan.org/VSG:Usage:Version
tomasz86 Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 I don't know, it just works Frankly, I rarely look at such charts at all.You don't really need to "use" the unofficial kernels. You just install them like any other M$ update and that's it. I've got UURollup (ENU) installed here.
Browncoat Posted March 26, 2012 Author Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) You don't really need to "use" the unofficial kernels. You just install them like any other M$ update and that's it. I've got UURollup (ENU) installed here.OK, I've got the page, reading, perhaps I'll give it a try.With this you got the latest VLC player 2.0.x versions to run?I joined that forum because I really need some guidance on keeping W2kP alive,I do have rollup 1, the older unofficial service pack 5 from the majorgeeks siteand the few that came down the pike until July 2010 and because I wanted those fontsthat were included, the powerpoint updates of the last couple of years. Edited March 26, 2012 by Browncoat
blackwingcat Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 (edited) It requires ws2_32 and iphlpapi new APIs.Plz see this article(Japanese), if you want to know detail.You can select KDW , OC wrapper s or Extended kernels for use VLC player.I can run it here with no problems. How? and no, I still don't understand how to use BWC's or WB's kernel (yet) despite this chart?http://wiki.videolan.org/VSG:Usage:Version Edited March 27, 2012 by blackwingcat
tomasz86 Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 (edited) OK, I've got the page, reading, perhaps I'll give it a try.With this you got the latest VLC player 2.0.x versions to run?If you have all those packages (including USP5.1) installed then there's no problem with installing UURollup. Actually the only issue so far was when you only have SP4 & IE6 (and no other newer updates), and try to install the UURollup in such a configuration. Thus having at least the official Update Rollup 1 installed is the minimal requirement. Edited March 27, 2012 by tomasz86
ppgrainbow Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 Browncoat, I understand your pain that VLC Media Player dropped support for Windows 2000 and Windows XP pre-SP2. The reason why is that they added three entry point dependencies that doesn't work and it's IPv6 related to WS2_32.DLL, freeaddrinfo, getaddrinfo and getnameinfo...the dependencies that only exist on Windows XP SP1 and later. I don't know if people even tried running VLC Media Player 2.0.x on Windows XP SP1 yet since it is not a officially supported service pack. It's possible to make it work by using a hex editor to eliminate two of the three dependencies, but it's not easy to eliminate freeaddrinfo, because it contains 12 characters, not 11. I tried that once with Qemu 1.0 and it never worked. I'll probably explain that in my next forum thread.I was also wondering that since VLC is open source software, I was wondering if there was a way to compile VLC Media Player 2.0.1 using MSVC 2005 or MSVC 2008 without IPv6 support (freeaddrinfo, getaddrinfo and getnameinfo)?
Browncoat Posted March 28, 2012 Author Posted March 28, 2012 (edited) Well, ppgrainbow, I checked my C:\WINNT folder, they're all there, including the Rollup 1 and their uninstall folders coloured in blue on my system.Recently though my dedicated PVR [an old eMachine with XP Home] went belly up due to motherboard issues and I'm a bit reluctant to experimenton my one working machine. Yet tomas states his pack is stable, I've recently joined the RyanVM board and for now am just reading up, learningand sometime before June, the deadline for deciding to go from FF 11 to Pale Moon. Or I may make the jump and go ahead and try hisUURollup, yet eagerly awaiting his SP6. Meanwhile, hunting for another refurb to make into a RVR[the cards and drives still work, just the mobowas no good].Frell, I hate being poor, when times were good I had five machines going, including a PIII dedicated to just experimenting on before trying anythingnew on the others.and yes, one of those was a dedicated porn hunter isolated from the rest, to protect the others from anything cyber-nasty. Edited March 28, 2012 by Browncoat
blackwingcat Posted March 28, 2012 Posted March 28, 2012 But I think that it is only laziness on programing.For example the twitter client mo-footer which I created alpha and Beta version are supported both Windows 95 and IPv6. (These are developed by VC++2005)We can support both only several lines code.The reason why is that they added three entry point dependencies that doesn't work and it's IPv6 related to WS2_32.DLL, freeaddrinfo, getaddrinfo and getnameinfo...the dependencies that only exist on Windows XP SP1 and later. I don't know if people even tried running VLC Media Player 2.0.x on Windows XP SP1 yet since it is not a officially supported service pack. It's possible to make it work by using a hex editor to eliminate two of the three dependencies, but it's not easy to eliminate freeaddrinfo, because it contains 12 characters, not 11. I tried that once with Qemu 1.0 and it never worked. I'll probably explain that in my next forum thread.I was also wondering that since VLC is open source software, I was wondering if there was a way to compile VLC Media Player 2.0.1 using MSVC 2005 or MSVC 2008 without IPv6 support (freeaddrinfo, getaddrinfo and getnameinfo)?
ppgrainbow Posted March 28, 2012 Posted March 28, 2012 Well, ppgrainbow, I checked my C:\WINNT folder, they're all there, including the Rollup 1 and their uninstall folders coloured in blue on my system.Recently though my dedicated PVR [an old eMachine with XP Home] went belly up due to motherboard issues and I'm a bit reluctant to experimenton my one working machine. Yet tomas states his pack is stable, I've recently joined the RyanVM board and for now am just reading up, learningand sometime before June, the deadline for deciding to go from FF 11 to Pale Moon. Or I may make the jump and go ahead and try hisUURollup, yet eagerly awaiting his SP6. Meanwhile, hunting for another refurb to make into a RVR[the cards and drives still work, just the mobowas no good].Frell, I hate being poor, when times were good I had five machines going, including a PIII dedicated to just experimenting on before trying anythingnew on the others.and yes, one of those was a dedicated porn hunter isolated from the rest, to protect the others from anything cyber-nasty. I'm really sorry to see your eMachine-based Windows XP computer went belly up due to motherboard issues. The same thing happened to my old motherboard from late 2002. It experienced BIOS ROM checksum errors due to a bad BIOS ROM chip and the last straw was that I used one of the USB devices and it caused this error. Pale Moon 9 doesn't support OSes earlier than Windows XP SP2, btw. I'm gonna try the UURollup instead of KernelEx to see how things go from here.
ppgrainbow Posted March 28, 2012 Posted March 28, 2012 But I think that it is only laziness on programing.For example the twitter client mo-footer which I created alpha and Beta version are supported both Windows 95 and IPv6. (These are developed by VC++2005)We can support both only several lines code.The reason why is that they added three entry point dependencies that doesn't work and it's IPv6 related to WS2_32.DLL, freeaddrinfo, getaddrinfo and getnameinfo...the dependencies that only exist on Windows XP SP1 and later. I don't know if people even tried running VLC Media Player 2.0.x on Windows XP SP1 yet since it is not a officially supported service pack. It's possible to make it work by using a hex editor to eliminate two of the three dependencies, but it's not easy to eliminate freeaddrinfo, because it contains 12 characters, not 11. I tried that once with Qemu 1.0 and it never worked. I'll probably explain that in my next forum thread.I was also wondering that since VLC is open source software, I was wondering if there was a way to compile VLC Media Player 2.0.1 using MSVC 2005 or MSVC 2008 without IPv6 support (freeaddrinfo, getaddrinfo and getnameinfo)?Really? Awesome job on making Mo-Footer the best Twitter client out there! The biggest excuses for developers to get users to upgrade were simply adding the three entry point dependencies that I mentioned in my previous post that prevent the app from executing on Win2k; sadly, I can't blame them for that. Using a hex editor is a to replace the three entry point dependencies that prevent the app from working on Win2k, but sadly...that will most likely make the app not run correctly. Using KernelEx and UURollup are the best options out there.
tomasz86 Posted March 28, 2012 Posted March 28, 2012 (edited) Using KernelEx and or UURollup are the best options out there. Fixed You mustn't use both at the same time because files will overwrite each other which will cause issues. UURollup has files from both WB & BWC kernels (I chose which ones to include looking at their dependencies and APIs they add).By the way, Pale Moon browser does work with the UURollup installed. Edited March 28, 2012 by tomasz86
ppgrainbow Posted March 28, 2012 Posted March 28, 2012 Using KernelEx and or UURollup are the best options out there. Fixed You mustn't use both at the same time because files will overwrite each other which will cause issues. UURollup has files from both WB & BWC kernels (I chose which ones to include looking at their dependencies and APIs they add).By the way, Pale Moon browser does work with the UURollup installed.Thanks! I'm gonna test the UURollup in a Win2k VM before I try it out on a real PC.
Browncoat Posted March 28, 2012 Author Posted March 28, 2012 Unlike Mozilla, palemoon.org are going to maintain two forks, it says so on theirMain pagehttp://www.palemoon.org/the download page, current version 3.6.30 or four more than the mozilla version on my other usb stick, the blog and in their forum.BWC,WB and tomasz are the real browncoats, working tirelessly to keep the last non-activationOS from Redmond viable. I tip my hat to you all and wish I had some spare cash to throw your way,though if I understand correctly it is that 2010 compiler(sp?) that's the culprit.Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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