war59312 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 (edited) Well afraid version 4 makes no difference what so ever.Guess I will be switching to a different product. Too bad.OK I have started using this for my RAMDisk and no more shutdown issue and works perfectly for my needs: http://thessdreview.com/Forums/software/1834.htm Edited September 22, 2012 by war59312 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doveman Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 make a new boot traceOK, I finally got round to doing this. The delay is still about 1m10s before the boot animation shows and then another 30s until the desktop shows. This is with the NoGuiBoot and Bootlog options disabled.http://www.mediafire.com/?kj1tts5jdumdd7b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicAndre1981 Posted September 23, 2012 Author Share Posted September 23, 2012 the trace still doesn't show any delays:<timing bootDoneViaExplorer="30360" bootDoneViaPostBoot="68360" osLoaderDuration="2363" postBootRequiredIdleTime="10000" postBootDisturbance="28000"so booting to the desktop takes 30s and your Windows is fully booted in 58s. The osLoader takes 2.3s to load and not 1minute. So I can see where you have the delay. The only thing which is a larger delay is that AntiVir service takes 14s to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doveman Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 the trace still doesn't show any delays:<timing bootDoneViaExplorer="30360" bootDoneViaPostBoot="68360" osLoaderDuration="2363" postBootRequiredIdleTime="10000" postBootDisturbance="28000"so booting to the desktop takes 30s and your Windows is fully booted in 58s. The osLoader takes 2.3s to load and not 1minute. So I can see where you have the delay. The only thing which is a larger delay is that AntiVir service takes 14s to start.OK, thanks for checking it anyway. Obviously whatever's causing the delay isn't caught by the trace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeked Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Hi magicandre1981,Im wondering if your still willing to have a look at start-up times etc. I have gone through your tutorial and the HDD optimisation you linked to and have made it a little faster but it is still very long time. I have narrowed the longest time down to the WinlogonInit and PostExplorerPeriod sections of the log generated but in the services are im unable to find much after the initial changes i made.Before doing your tutorial i also went through my usual speed up routine which i have attached which hopefully didn't cause this problem but basically it uninstalls unneeded/unused software, checks for virus/trojan/etc and removes old drivers.I have attached the before and after XML summaries but the etl's before is 480KB and after is 603KB.What is it that you would need if you were going to look?Best regards,JohnC.summary_boot_before.xmlsummary_boot_after.xmlspeedUpRoutine.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicAndre1981 Posted October 6, 2012 Author Share Posted October 6, 2012 I need the ETL file to see why WinLogonInit is slow. Compress it as 7z or RAR and upload it to your SkyDrive or Dropbox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeked Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Hi and thanks for the response.I have added to dropbox with the following links:1. Pre-Fix:https://www.dropbox.com/s/qmm4l6qluen07bo/pre-boot-etl.7z2. Post-Fix: <- Most currenthttps://www.dropbox.com/s/240phjpkm9rlg02/post-boot-etl.7zPlease let me know if those links dont work as i have never used Dropbox share function...Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicAndre1981 Posted October 8, 2012 Author Share Posted October 8, 2012 Restoring the network connections takes 125s and causes the long delay:So don't restore network connections all the time. Map them later via a CMD script with NET USE /PERSISTENT: NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeked Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Ill make the change ad re-trace, thanks for your help so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicAndre1981 Posted October 8, 2012 Author Share Posted October 8, 2012 ok, tell me the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeked Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Ok so much faster but still really slow....I posted the new file at:https://www.dropbox.com/s/uq2s7b6g1z3o89l/fix1-boot-etl.7zLet me know if you can help anymore or need anything else.Much appreciated,JohnC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicAndre1981 Posted October 9, 2012 Author Share Posted October 9, 2012 Now your Windows boots in 66s to the desktop. It doesn't show the time when all startup apps are loaded:<timing bootDoneViaExplorer="66092" bootDoneViaPostBoot="-1"What I can see is that your HDD is busy all the time.When I checked what causes the issue I can see that Defender/MSE causes a lot of disk activity. I always had this issue with MSE, so I don't use it any longer.I can also see that the DNS client service causes some high cpu usage. Add -stackwalk profile after -trace flags to the command and give me the new file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeked Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 (edited) Do you know why it shows -1? I thought the number might be to high but that didn't make sense What does the -stackwalk profile command do and what would you recommend instead of MSE in that case if you don't mind me asking.Also I'll post it up within the hour. Have to get access to laptop. Edited October 10, 2012 by jeked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicAndre1981 Posted October 10, 2012 Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 -stackwalk profile captures the callstack. this is helpful to see which function of the DNS service causes the CPU usage.The -1 is shown when Windows was still busy with running all startup applications when the trace was finished.Try AVG or AntiVir as alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeked Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Hi,I just realised that i didnt send the post to you, so sorry to make you wait:https://www.dropbox.com/s/i3xlw4q4bor9ly0/fix2-boot-etl.7zThat is the latest etl file. I installed Avast for its low boot impact compared to a couple other before i got you second message about Avir and AVG. Ill check them as well after we sought out some more issues...Any help you can give is awesome.Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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