starcraftmaster Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 ok i use to have a recovey partition but some thing must have delete it (probloy norton ghost)so i cant reformat and install windows mebut i notice inC:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABStheir seems to be a setup for windows me in therecan i go in dos and format my C: drive and then type in the dos thing C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS\setup.exe and reformat and install??and if i do that can i put all my setupfiles for programs on D: drive (slave) so once window me is instal i can start installing drivers and programs? or should i burn them to a cd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triger49 Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 You'll never regret leaving yourself a life boat ....burn them to a CD .....the Windows ME boot floppy gives you the option of booting with CD rom support....Murphy's law always annoyed me, but sometimes the best offense is a good defenseJake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
possy_99 Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 (edited) if you format c: then the files will get wiped (the nature of a format)DO NOT FORMAT. Boot computer from ME startup disk and start setup like you suggested.. C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS\setup.exeif that dont work...I don't know if it will work as it's been a very long time since I used ME, but the best option would be to burn what you think are the ME setup files on to CD, don't forget you will need to add the boot information though, there are guides on how to do that. To be able to burn files to CD without wiping the files to begin with you'll either need to install the drive as a slave in another PC or use a live boot disk with CD recording support.if you have a certificate of authenticy on the side of your computer, the easiest method would be to download a copy of the ME installation CD, but make sure you use your own serial during install.. as far as I know it's the serial which makes the install legitimate, not the disk. Edited March 15, 2009 by possy_99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
submix8c Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 "Helpful hints from your Cousin Earny" (in addition/an addendum to possy_99) -1 - Definitely back up to wherever you want all of your important/want-to-keep files to wherever you want to2 - Definitely burn (for safety) you Options/Cabs (kinda confused on this, since WinME is usually in the Options/Install folder)3 - Even safer, if you can Ghost (or whatever) the entire C-drive (total insurance)4 - And most significant - Boot to a Win98/WinME Floppy, rename the Windows/Win.com to anything (eg win.ori ) then CD (Change Directory) to the Install Files Folder (CABS, INSTALL, whatever), and run SETUP (NOT the OEMSETUP).(and ya need that key!)That last particular "trick" allows reinstall (regardless of the variation, e.g. OEM, FULL, Upgrade, etc.) "over top of" (kind of like XP's way). At least it works for Win9x, so "should" work for WinME.Disclaimer - I haven't tried this on ME, only 98SE, but scattered througth the WWW is the same "tip". Also be aware tha many drivers may or may not be "reloaded" ("can't find the driver" due to original install method) and an MSBATCH.INF file may/may not impact the "reinstall".Any help here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starcraftmaster Posted March 16, 2009 Author Share Posted March 16, 2009 "Helpful hints from your Cousin Earny" (in addition/an addendum to possy_99) -1 - Definitely back up to wherever you want all of your important/want-to-keep files to wherever you want to2 - Definitely burn (for safety) you Options/Cabs (kinda confused on this, since WinME is usually in the Options/Install folder)3 - Even safer, if you can Ghost (or whatever) the entire C-drive (total insurance)4 - And most significant - Boot to a Win98/WinME Floppy, rename the Windows/Win.com to anything (eg win.ori ) then CD (Change Directory) to the Install Files Folder (CABS, INSTALL, whatever), and run SETUP (NOT the OEMSETUP).(and ya need that key!)That last particular "trick" allows reinstall (regardless of the variation, e.g. OEM, FULL, Upgrade, etc.) "over top of" (kind of like XP's way). At least it works for Win9x, so "should" work for WinME.Disclaimer - I haven't tried this on ME, only 98SE, but scattered througth the WWW is the same "tip". Also be aware tha many drivers may or may not be "reloaded" ("can't find the driver" due to original install method) and an MSBATCH.INF file may/may not impact the "reinstall".Any help here?so will it get rid of windows then install or just install windows all over the ready windows on the C: drivebecause i dont want to do a repair install i just want to get rid of windows and reinstall it so all the clutter and errors go away so not a repair install because that makes more errors lol most of the timeand whats oemsetup do? is that the packard bell reinstall ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
submix8c Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 OK... complete list of the WIN9x folder (from CD) -BASE2.CABCATALOG.CABcleanhd.txtdeltemp.comdossetup.binDRIVER5.CABDRIVER6.CABDRIVER7.CABextract.exeformat.comintl.txtmini.cabNET3.CABNET4.CABoemsetup.binoemsetup.exePRECOPY1.CABsave32.comscandisk.exescandisk.pifscanprog.exescanreg.exesetup.exesetup.txtsetup0.wavsmartdrv.exesuback.binsuback16.binsuhelper.binw9xsetup.binwb16off.exeWIN_10.CABWIN_11.CABWIN_12.CABWIN_13.CABWIN_14.CABWIN_15.CABWIN_16.CABWIN_17.CABWIN_18.CABWIN_19.CABWIN_20.CABWIN_21.CABWIN_22.CABWIN_8.CABWIN_9.CABWIN_OL.CABwin1024.binwin640.binwin800.binwinme.wmvxmsmmgr.exeOn the CD, there's an additional folder/subfolders for OLS (On-Line-"Stuff") that is only "junk" for installing AT&T and AOL Dial-Up. I haven't included any of the other CD folders since they're irrelevant. Again (AFAICR), usually with a Clean Install of WinME, all files are copied to OPTIONS/INSTALL folder (perhaps this was the OEM version CD). Subsequently, any/some "fixes" (etc.) would put the "new" files into the OPTIONS/CABS folder (this is the Win95/98 way, including where the SysPrep placed the Install files). Be wary of any files in this folder that have any date other than 6-8-2000 (June 8, 2000) as this is the date for all of the WinME files. In addition, OEM's (and driver install software) would place the Drivers in the Install folder; this usually corresponded with an MSBATCH.INF file (for the OEM install). OEMSETUP is only (usually) used for the OEM install to an un-partitioned HDD. OEMSETUP partitions the HDD, then "calls" SETUP to install.All of the above is pretty much the same for all 9x/ME. Only certain files/CAB-names "changed". I want to point out that if a PC originally came with (e.g.) Win98/98SE preinstalled (OEM) that the Folder would be (again) OPTIONS/CABS and an Upgrade to ME (AFAICR) would "over-write" the originals (I could definitely be wrong about that).No matter which way you slice it, you need the above-listed files (maybe not the OEMxxx files or the MSBATCH.INF). You also need to have an Emergency Boot Disk handy for your reinstall.The procedure for a Clean Install can be found nearly anywhere on the internet or even her on MSFN. In your case, you will want to just ensure your Install Files are elsewere (including any drivers), boot to the EBD, Format the C: Drive, CD (Change Directory) to the Install Folder (where the Files listed are), and run SETUP. All the rest should be taken care of.Where your Key is (via RegEdit) -HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentversionWhere the Install+Type was from (via RegEdit) -HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Currentversion/SetupKinda the same info you get from System Information. Here Ponch and I explained to Redhatcc re-Win95 Install from HDDHTH (honest, it's not that hard, just back everything up and get yer Install Key) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starcraftmaster Posted March 17, 2009 Author Share Posted March 17, 2009 (edited) these are the files that are not therecleanhd.txtformat.comintl.txtoemsetup.binoemsetup.exescandisk.pifinsted putting it on a cd can i just put it on D: drive and install it from their Edited March 17, 2009 by starcraftmaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
submix8c Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 (edited) My "differences" check (for Win98SE and applies to WinME as well) -Absent in Upgrade: OEMSETUP.BIN FORMAT.COM OEMSETUP.EXEIt appears that you have an Upgrade Version. The Scandisk.pif can be recreated. If you need the info on each portion of it, I can give it to you. If a Supervisor or Moderator will permit it, I'll just upload it (no proprietary info there; right/wrong?).So... it looks like you may need a previous version.additional personal notes (may help determining exactly what you have).\win9x\format.com (Not on UPGRADE; NOTE: format.com is in .\win9x\base2.cab\ebd.cab).\win9x\oemsetup.bin (Not on UPGRADE).\win9x\oemsetup.exe (Not on UPGRADE).\win9x\precopy1.cab (see below - contents differences) setupc.inf (!!!! ADDITIONAL DIFFS !!!!) [Data] CCP=0 (in OEM) setuppp.inf (different/same time) [data] ProductType=2 (Upgrade/Step-Up) Line 422 UPI=79469-XXX-XXXXXXX (Upgrade/Step-Up) Line 423 setupx.dll (different/same time) Hex Offset 000A7B4B - 33 (Upgrade) Hex Offset 000A7B55 - 32 (Upgrade)-or- Hex Offset 000A7B46 - (x'05')52783(x'09')C83-00002 (Upgrade) Hex Offset 000A7B69 - 30 (Upgrade) Hex Offset 000A7B6A - 32 (Upgrade)-or- Hex Offset 000A7B68 - 102 (Upgrade) suwin.exe (different/same time) Hex Offset 0006B4F8 - 30 (Upgrade) Hex Offset 0006B4F9 - 32 (Upgrade)-or- Hex Offset 0006B4F7 - 102 (Upgrade).\win9x\w9xsetup.bin (different/same time) Hex Offset 000223C2 - 30 (Upgrade) Hex Offset 000223C3 - 32 (Upgrade)-or- Hex Offset 000223C1 - 102 (Upgrade)***** there are other differences between OEM and others...** Note: ** x'30'=0 / x'31'=1 / (etc.)The above notes are not exactly complete but (mostly) accurate for your purposes. I have these because I sometimes repair other folks' PC's and need them for renstalls, etc.Yes, you can put it on the D-drive and install from there. Remember that EBD! Normally, the EBD.CAB is not expanded for an Install Floppy (slightly different). I can give you the contents (file list) of one and the actual modifications you may need to the CONFIG.SYS/AUTOEXEC.BAT (if you actually need it). Mostly, all you need is1 - bootable floppy (MSDOS.SYS, IO.SYS, COMMAND.COM)2 - since not from cd, SMARTDRV is unnecessary3 - access to FORMAT.COM (put on D-drive folder; it's in the EBD.CAB also)4 - boot, format C, ChangeDir to the D-drive-folder, run SETUP and Away You Go!- - note: be absolutely sure you're C-drive is the original C-drive!!! (FDISK Display and check for Active and the original size, then Exit)extra note - AFAICR, the majority of the CD-bootable (Retail) has nearly identical files as the Win98SE Bootable, and the Floppy Boot is nearly identical between them (no FINDCD hence AUTOEXEC and CONFIG is slightly different).HTHedit -Moderators/Supervisors - please check the WWW; most (if not all) of this info is already out there. I just compiled this for purposes of verification of what the "customer" actually had, so hopefully this won't be construed as a violation. If so, feel free (as you will) to edit/remove it. Edited March 17, 2009 by submix8c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starcraftmaster Posted March 18, 2009 Author Share Posted March 18, 2009 ok thanks for the help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starcraftmaster Posted April 5, 2009 Author Share Posted April 5, 2009 just to let ya knowi try installing it and it wouldent work and gave me a error messergeso i type the messerge in google and found out it needed a file named setver.exeso i searched my computer for the file and found in system folderso i that file in the cabs folder of the installand started the install from dos on a spare hard drive i had and it install fine so i will be installing it on the computer i want to install it on soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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