Fix all Intel RIS Driver problem

[jfmartel]

Alright guys, over the few years I've worked on RIS, Intel network driver have been always an issue. Each new card was a pain in the *%($/ to get working.

Finally, Microsoft have release a KB that tells you how to modify their driver to work with RIS.

KB923831

I was sceptical at first but I can tell you from what I saw so far that it fixed my problem.

The brand new IBM X61 i reiceved (use 82566 Nic) is now working with my server.

I really hope this helps you as much as it helped me. Took me 2 days to get that

JF

[brandon6976]

alright I have some Lenovo machines with the Intel 82566DM-2 Cards. I read the MS article which seems to have the same symptoms which is basically not loading the network. However it talks about making the inf's under 4k. The files that the thing comes with are like 56+k. How can I get this down to 4k ??

[jfmartel]

Delete the stuff they talk in their KB and it should work. My files are over 4k on my server too.

I do beleive what whould be under 4k is the section related to what you should delete.

If you look at your driver file, you'll have a section for a large amount of language. In my case, since my server are english but my client are french, I only deleted the part in french and english and it worked.

Good luck!

[chiners_68]

I must say ive not noticed any Intel dsriver issues with RIS.

Are you refering to Text mode drivers or XP Drivers..?

[jfmartel]

  chiners_68 said:

I must say ive not noticed any Intel dsriver issues with RIS.

Are you refering to Text mode drivers or XP Drivers..?

Yup the one that loads the installation of Windows, those you put in i386.

If you haven't had any problems with Intel, then you're a lucky guy.

[chiners_68]

I think you refering to text mode drivers. Drivers which run at the blue screen stage(partition & copy down installation files) before you see any Xp installtion screens..?

have you tired Roguespears text mode drivers for RIS..? Just overwrite exisitng files in i386 directory & try.

http://www.doitrightconsulting.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=315

[jfmartel]

  chiners_68 said:

I think you refering to text mode drivers. Drivers which run at the blue screen stage(partition & copy down installation files) before you see any Xp installtion screens..?

have you tired Roguespears text mode drivers for RIS..? Just overwrite exisitng files in i386 directory & try.

http://www.doitrightconsulting.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=315

Thanks for the link.

I usually prefer using retail driver on my system. Nothing again Rogue's work, but I like to make my own stuff

JF

[spl1]

Hi..

i've the same problem with the HP DC7800 Ultra Slim..

i've also delete the MiniHelp Files.. but i had no luck...

have someone a PE Image which is Working or other Help for me?

regards

[hosebeast]

There are actually multiple problems with Intel's NIC drivers, not just the 4K problem described in MS KB 923831. Historically, the big killer has been the problem with the manufacturer header. This is actually due to Microsoft's bug in the Windows 2000 RIS parser but it means that any NIC driver which needs to support both Windows 2000 and XP/2003 must include an extra section in the INF and Intel seldom bothered to get this right because it only matters when using RIS and the vast majority of the planet doesn't use RIS.

Intel's original "solution" was to provide a separate, hard-to-find download for a RIS-specific INF:

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Des...44〈=eng

They explained this separate download in an equally obscure and badly written article:

http://support.intel.com/support/network/sb/cs-000023.htm

This download was just an INF file; you still needed to download the regular driver, then replace the INF. Sounds great until you realized that Intel never updated the INF download to match the latest driver version. Even if you wanted to run a 4+ year old driver version, Intel openly admits that it would be downright dangerous:

http://security-center.intel.com/advisory....anguageid=en-fr

Fortunately, most of the newest Intel driver downloads include a RIS-compatible INF. Intel claims that this includes all versions released since 2006 but I believe they still screwed up on one or two releases. It's actually fairly easy to fix one of their bad INF files; simply open it in Notepad and change the line:

[intel.NTx86]

to

[intel]

If that's all you do, you wind up with an INF that can be used with RIS successfully but not with non-RIS installations. Intel's newer versions can handle both RIS and non-RIS with a single INF by repeating the entire contents of the section under both headings [intel] and [intel.NTx86]. Obviously, this bloats the INF and makes installation take slightly longer. This section doesn't impact the 4K limit described by KB 923831; that's a separate issue which only affects the "data" portion of the INF where localized strings are defined.

In fairness to Intel, other manufacturers like Broadcom have been struck by the same issue:

http://www.broadcom.com/support/ethernet_n..._drivers.php#79

Notice that the fix for their INF is slightly different (changing the entry in the [Manufacturer] section which points to the headers below it, rather than changing the headers themselves) but it's essentially the same workaround for the same RIS parser issue.

[Rudyb]

Hi Just managed to get RIS to work with the Intel drivers. We have just got a new shipment of DELL Optiplex 755.

Here is what you do:

1: go to this site and download the drivers

http://www.doitrightconsulting.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=315

2: DO NOT ALTER the files, copy and paste them into your $OEM$\$1\Drivers\Nic for both the flat image and also the image you want to copy

3: copy and paste the files into the i386 folders of your image and also your flat image.

4: Change the SATA in the BIOS to Legacy

and that is it...

I hope this helps, managed to get my Images up and running in less than a day......Thank God for the internet!!!

[tafkar]

Hi

When I go to this site and download the drivers

http://www.doitrightconsulting.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=315 I do not see a file to download.

[chiners_68]

this text is the download link on that site

11/29/2007 - 2.27MB

here is the direct url to http://www.doitrightconsulting.net/files/A...ers-20071129.7z

[Ade C]

  Rudyb said:

Hi Just managed to get RIS to work with the Intel drivers. We have just got a new shipment of DELL Optiplex 755.

Here is what you do:

1: go to this site and download the drivers

http://www.doitrightconsulting.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=315

2: DO NOT ALTER the files, copy and paste them into your $OEM$\$1\Drivers\Nic for both the flat image and also the image you want to copy

3: copy and paste the files into the i386 folders of your image and also your flat image.

4: Change the SATA in the BIOS to Legacy

and that is it...

I hope this helps, managed to get my Images up and running in less than a day......Thank God for the internet!!!

Hi All,

Just registered and my first post. I have been reading all the posts in this topic since late 2007 and finally got to some that I could respond to knowing that they are still reasonably current.

Ihave some Dell 755's to roll out and have come across the nic and sata problem. I resolved the nic problem by doing the tried and tested approach of copying them into the flat image i386, restart the service and away to go.

I then came across the (becoming more common) problem of the hard drive not being detected (seen this various times over the last year, with promise and intel sata\raid hardware) and so far so good all roll outs have been successful.

I have just altered the bios to change the h\drive from ahci to ata on the Dell 755 and it rolls out fine, after copying the storage drivers into i386 (I always use the drivers that come with the pc, as it was working when I got it, so why change them to roll them out!!!).

I am now trying to roll them out using the original configuration in bios of ahci and I am having the 'hard drive not detected' error. I know that my ristndrd.sif will need to have a 'MassStorageDrivers' section created and have done that and also an 'OEMBootFiles' section but so far I am still getting the 'hard drive not detected' error which is baffling me a bit.

What I would like to know is what differences am I likely to see by running the hard drives as ata instead of ahci and has anyone got a definitive example of how to configure ris for sata\scsi\raid driver installation, by that I mean where the textmode folder goes and where else will the files need to go for my images and what is required in my ristndrd.sif or riprep.sif txt file for it all to work.

I have in the past managed to roll out a raided(striped) pc (my 2nd gamer) using ris, but am at a loss as to what I am doing wrong with this Dell 755 pc and it's sata drive. I will continue with my attempt to get it right, but if push comes to shove will just roll them out using ata instead of ahci.

Any help would be appreciated and I hope I can be of some help in the future.

Thanks

Ade C

Update. I have now got ris rolling out Dell 755's using ahci set in bios as originally configured, I had a major typo error (so big it wasn't obvious, DOH!)(lol!).

Edited April 15, 2008 by Ade C

[lyonjr]

Hey Ade C

Can you tell me exactly what you did so that RIS will recognize the Hard Drive without having to change the BIOS settings? I have the NIC problem worked out, but would like to get info on the SATA issue.

Thanks,

lyonjr

[lawson23]

Question on this issue relating specifically to the Optiplex 755.

I currently have the base image working so that it will put the base image on the box.

My problem is though after I get that machine all setup the way we want and use riprep to create a different not BASE image.

Once we try to select this image file for distribution to the same 755 we get the network adapters error message in RIS.

Any ideas?

This has been resolved please see:

http://www.msfn.org/board/Riprep-Network-A...ge-t118322.html

Edited June 5, 2008 by lawson23